2014 Draft Steals?

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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:40am #54919

qDizzle32
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Every draft, there are players who are drafted way behind or sometimes in the 2nd round who end up being a lot better than players who were drafted in the lottery who play the same position as them.
2009:
Jrue Holiday (17) > Jonny Flynn (6)
Wesley Matthews (Undrafted) > Terrence Williams (11)
Taj Gibson (26) > Earl Clark (14)
2010:
Lance Stephenson (40) > Wesley Johnson (4)
Larry Sanders (15) > Ekpe Udoh (6)
Avery Bradley (19) > Xavier Henry (12)
2011:
Chandler Parsons (38) > Jan Vesely (6)
Kenneth Faried (22) > Bismack Biyombo (7)
Isaiah Thomas (60) > Jimmer Fredette (10)
2012:
Terrence Jones (18)/Jared Sullinger (21) > Thomas Robinson (5)
Tony Wroten (25) > Austin Rivers (10)
Miles Plumlee (26) > Meyers Leonard (11)
Draymond Green (35) > Royce White (16)
Not doing 2013 cuz it’s still too early after one season. But who could end up being better than another player in this year’s draft who is expected to be drafted higher than them?

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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:43am #890451

Lotto Stud
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After reading your notes at the bottom it concludes this thread is pointless.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:43am #890340

Lotto Stud
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After reading your notes at the bottom it concludes this thread is pointless.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:51am #890453

Sewok15
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Adreian Payne will be better than Noah Vonleh.
Shabazz Napier will be better than Tyler Ennis.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:51am #890342

Sewok15
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Adreian Payne will be better than Noah Vonleh.
Shabazz Napier will be better than Tyler Ennis.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:45am #890466
  
  MrManalo43
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  bold, yet understandable… +1
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:45am #890577
  
  MrManalo43
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  bold, yet understandable… +1
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:19am #890471

ncballer
PJ Hairston will be better than a lot of people drafted above him.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:19am #890360

ncballer
PJ Hairston will be better than a lot of people drafted above him.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:43pm #890664
  
  Land of Grant
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  Yeah a bunch of stuffy wuss GMs looking for intangibles will pass up on the obvious talent.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:43pm #890554
  
  Land of Grant
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  Yeah a bunch of stuffy wuss GMs looking for intangibles will pass up on the obvious talent.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:26am #890477

Mopgrass
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I think the jury is still out on a few of those players, though time is running out. Also, Xavier Henry certainly started a bust, but he looked surprisingly solid this year. Obviously, he was supposed to be better, but after finally showing some respectable play, he needs a little credit.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:26am #890365

Mopgrass
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I think the jury is still out on a few of those players, though time is running out. Also, Xavier Henry certainly started a bust, but he looked surprisingly solid this year. Obviously, he was supposed to be better, but after finally showing some respectable play, he needs a little credit.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:33am #890394
  
  imAboutDatAction
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  not really. he’s been decent and D’antoni has a knack for making bust looking good in his system.
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:33am #890505
  
  imAboutDatAction
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  not really. he’s been decent and D’antoni has a knack for making bust looking good in his system.
  
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:53am #890380

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Kyle Anderson will be better than Dario Saric.
Jordan Adams will be better than Rodney Hood.
Elfrid Payton will be better than Marcus Smart.
Semaj Christon will be better than Zach LaVine.
Jarnell Stokes will be better than Isaiah Austin.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:56am #890382
  
  WhiteKD35
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  there’s no way Saric goes before Anderson, maybe if Saric posts impressive combine numbers but i doubt that.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:56am #890493
  
  WhiteKD35
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  there’s no way Saric goes before Anderson, maybe if Saric posts impressive combine numbers but i doubt that.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 9:53am #890491

B-ball fan
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Kyle Anderson will be better than Dario Saric.
Jordan Adams will be better than Rodney Hood.
Elfrid Payton will be better than Marcus Smart.
Semaj Christon will be better than Zach LaVine.
Jarnell Stokes will be better than Isaiah Austin.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:43am #890402

Magic Jordan
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I would go the other way, I think Saric will be better than Anderson.
Depending on where Anderson gets drafted I could throw countless names before him as I am just not a believer that he will translate into a quality NBA player like most on this site seem to believe. I have tried and tried to think of a player with his physical limitations being solid in the league and I can’t, I would love to be proven wrong though.
It’s hard to peg because we don’t know where people will be drafted yet. I do like the Payne > Vonleh though.
PJ Hairston > Garry Harris.
Those are really the only ones I can think of without seeing draft positions.

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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:43am #890513

Magic Jordan
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I would go the other way, I think Saric will be better than Anderson.
Depending on where Anderson gets drafted I could throw countless names before him as I am just not a believer that he will translate into a quality NBA player like most on this site seem to believe. I have tried and tried to think of a player with his physical limitations being solid in the league and I can’t, I would love to be proven wrong though.
It’s hard to peg because we don’t know where people will be drafted yet. I do like the Payne > Vonleh though.
PJ Hairston > Garry Harris.
Those are really the only ones I can think of without seeing draft positions.

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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:44am #890404

Four
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But it’s awfully hard to know who is a steal until we know where they are drafted. No way to know yet if he will pan out but I expected Noel to go #1 last year, which I thought might be a tad high. Perhaps now he will turn out to be a steal.
In terms of where guys are projected it seems like everyone is down on Aaron Gordon – I could see him dropping into someone’s lap. I’m intrigued, as others are, by Anderson too. Seems like a real boom or bust pick.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:44am #890515

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But it’s awfully hard to know who is a steal until we know where they are drafted. No way to know yet if he will pan out but I expected Noel to go #1 last year, which I thought might be a tad high. Perhaps now he will turn out to be a steal.
In terms of where guys are projected it seems like everyone is down on Aaron Gordon – I could see him dropping into someone’s lap. I’m intrigued, as others are, by Anderson too. Seems like a real boom or bust pick.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:47am #890410

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Zach Lavine over Gary Harris
I also love Payne, Stauskas, and Fuquan Edwin
Some deeper sleepers that I could see being valuable bench players: Okaro White, Bryce Cotton, Cory Jefferson, Akil Mitchell, and Eric Moreland
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:47am #890521

providencefriars1
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Zach Lavine over Gary Harris
I also love Payne, Stauskas, and Fuquan Edwin
Some deeper sleepers that I could see being valuable bench players: Okaro White, Bryce Cotton, Cory Jefferson, Akil Mitchell, and Eric Moreland
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:05am #890422

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I think Julius Randle will be better than Jabari Parker.
I think DeAndre Daniels will be better than Noah Vonleh.
I think Zach Lavine will be better than Rodney Hood.
I think Cleanthony Early will be better than Doug McDermott, and I think Doug McDermott will be pretty good.
I think James Young will be better than Gary Harris.
I think Shabazz Napier will be better than Tyler Ennis.
I think Marcus Smart will be better than Dante Exum.
I think Patric Young will be better than James McAdoo.
I think Aaron Craft will be better than Russ Smith.
I think Jarnell Stokes will be better than Glen Robinson III.

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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:16am #890428
  
  fito91
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  Jarnell Stokes better than GR3? You must have missed the same position part lol
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:16am #890539
  
  fito91
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  Jarnell Stokes better than GR3? You must have missed the same position part lol
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:05am #890533

Memphis Madness
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I think Julius Randle will be better than Jabari Parker.
I think DeAndre Daniels will be better than Noah Vonleh.
I think Zach Lavine will be better than Rodney Hood.
I think Cleanthony Early will be better than Doug McDermott, and I think Doug McDermott will be pretty good.
I think James Young will be better than Gary Harris.
I think Shabazz Napier will be better than Tyler Ennis.
I think Marcus Smart will be better than Dante Exum.
I think Patric Young will be better than James McAdoo.
I think Aaron Craft will be better than Russ Smith.
I think Jarnell Stokes will be better than Glen Robinson III.

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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:19am #890430

fito91
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Jerami Grant > Hood, Dougie, and Kyle Anderson
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:32am #890454
  
  Magic Jordan
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  Jerami Grant doesn’t have one NBA skill. He has an NBA tool his athleticism, but he doesn’t have one ready NBA skill. Can’t shoot, can’t dribble, can’t pass.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 1:02pm #890478
    
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    He’s going to be extremely interesting to watch as he attempts to develop in the NBA. He needs to do one of two things:
    1. Bulk up and try to groom himself into a face-up PF, like Blake Griffin but not nearly as good.
    2. Try to improve as a ball-handler and shooter so that he can play SF.
    Personally, I think he’s better off trying to bulk up. If he can, suddenly he’s an above average ball-handler for his position (PF) rather than below average if he doesn’t bulk up and has to play SF. He’d also have above average quickness and athleticism at PF to go with a very good motor.
    
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  - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 1:02pm #890589
    
    machu46
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    He’s going to be extremely interesting to watch as he attempts to develop in the NBA. He needs to do one of two things:
    1. Bulk up and try to groom himself into a face-up PF, like Blake Griffin but not nearly as good.
    2. Try to improve as a ball-handler and shooter so that he can play SF.
    Personally, I think he’s better off trying to bulk up. If he can, suddenly he’s an above average ball-handler for his position (PF) rather than below average if he doesn’t bulk up and has to play SF. He’d also have above average quickness and athleticism at PF to go with a very good motor.
    
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  - Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 10:46pm #890666
    
    Land of Grant
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    Defense
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    Land of Grant
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    Defense
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:32am #890565
  
  Magic Jordan
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  Jerami Grant doesn’t have one NBA skill. He has an NBA tool his athleticism, but he doesn’t have one ready NBA skill. Can’t shoot, can’t dribble, can’t pass.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:19am #890541

fito91
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Jerami Grant > Hood, Dougie, and Kyle Anderson
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:29am #890442

highflyer0
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If Semaj Christon is the 31st pick like he is projected on here, he will be a steal. Also I’ll go GR3>Jerami Grant
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:29am #890553

highflyer0
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If Semaj Christon is the 31st pick like he is projected on here, he will be a steal. Also I’ll go GR3>Jerami Grant
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:31am #890448

JNixon
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Jordan Clarkson from Mizzou is going to be a very good pro eventually. I think he could slip to the 2nd rd and be a steal for a team.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 11:31am #890559

JNixon
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Jordan Clarkson from Mizzou is going to be a very good pro eventually. I think he could slip to the 2nd rd and be a steal for a team.
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 1:24pm #890484

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I think Andrew Harrison is going to be a steal if he declares and goes early second. He’s a big time competitor and I think all the criticism he’s received this year is going to push him to succeed. Plus he’s got great size for a PG, passes well, and can score.
Another name that comes to mind for me is Jarnell Stokes. Yes he’s undersized, but the value he adds as a rebounder and bully is going to lead to a long NBA career in my opinion and some teams are going to regret not drafting him.

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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 1:24pm #890595

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I think Andrew Harrison is going to be a steal if he declares and goes early second. He’s a big time competitor and I think all the criticism he’s received this year is going to push him to succeed. Plus he’s got great size for a PG, passes well, and can score.
Another name that comes to mind for me is Jarnell Stokes. Yes he’s undersized, but the value he adds as a rebounder and bully is going to lead to a long NBA career in my opinion and some teams are going to regret not drafting him.

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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 2:16pm #890494

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Jabari Brown > Dante Exum
Ive been watching Dante play for nearly 10 years now, I think he is an NBA player, but not a star. I think Jabari Brown will be a very good pro, he is a very good shooter and reminds me a lot of Michael Redd. If he slips to the second round he’ll be a steal. *side note: I think Dante will be a 2 not a point hence why I’ve put him and Jabari with one another*
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- Posted on: Sat, 04/19/2014 - 12:34am #890915
  
  anthony_DavIS23
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  You’ve been watching him since he was 8? Are you like a family friend or something?
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- Posted on: Sat, 04/19/2014 - 12:34am #891027
  
  anthony_DavIS23
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  You’ve been watching him since he was 8? Are you like a family friend or something?
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- Posted on: Sat, 04/19/2014 - 12:39am #890917
  
  anthony_DavIS23
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  Jabari brown better than nik stauskas
  jerian grant over vasilije micic
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- Posted on: Sat, 04/19/2014 - 12:39am #891029
  
  anthony_DavIS23
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  Jabari brown better than nik stauskas
  jerian grant over vasilije micic
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 2:16pm #890604

he_gets_buckets
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Jabari Brown > Dante Exum
Ive been watching Dante play for nearly 10 years now, I think he is an NBA player, but not a star. I think Jabari Brown will be a very good pro, he is a very good shooter and reminds me a lot of Michael Redd. If he slips to the second round he’ll be a steal. *side note: I think Dante will be a 2 not a point hence why I’ve put him and Jabari with one another*
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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 5:57pm #890638

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Melvin Ejim will be better than GRIII
Cleananthony Early will be better than Rodney Hood

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Posted on: Thu, 04/17/2014 - 5:57pm #890528

DolanCare
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Melvin Ejim will be better than GRIII
Cleananthony Early will be better than Rodney Hood

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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 3:12am #890689

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Even though he’s a senior, and the other potential steal PG from UConn is getting most of the attention, I think Russ Smith will be one of the biggest steals himself in this draft, able to outplay a lot of the other PGs drafted before him.
Jabari Brown will also be another steal, if he slips to the late first round, or early second round. Reminds me a lot of Jim Jackson, and Jackson was no slouch at the 2, and was the 4th overall pick the year he came out.
Also, the Harrison twins, both of them. A lot of people aren’t that high on them based on their first year performance at Kentucky….well, maybe Aaron is worth more as a later 1st round pick than his brother, they say, because of all those clutches he made in the tournament and all….but, for some reason, I think they’re both gonna excel at the pro level than at the college level, if they can play under the right system. If they both declare this year, then they would also be steals.
And finally, this site’s draft board used to have Andre Dawkins listed in the late second round. But now, he’s not even on it. I think he’s gonna surprise a lot of people if he slips, or signs on with another team as an undrafted FA. Like i have mentioned before in my other posts on this site, he was the best "lights-out assassin" for Duke, and was only overshadowed because of all the media attention that Parker and Hood were getting. But, he’s gonna be one of the biggest steals in this draft.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 3:12am #890578

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Even though he’s a senior, and the other potential steal PG from UConn is getting most of the attention, I think Russ Smith will be one of the biggest steals himself in this draft, able to outplay a lot of the other PGs drafted before him.
Jabari Brown will also be another steal, if he slips to the late first round, or early second round. Reminds me a lot of Jim Jackson, and Jackson was no slouch at the 2, and was the 4th overall pick the year he came out.
Also, the Harrison twins, both of them. A lot of people aren’t that high on them based on their first year performance at Kentucky….well, maybe Aaron is worth more as a later 1st round pick than his brother, they say, because of all those clutches he made in the tournament and all….but, for some reason, I think they’re both gonna excel at the pro level than at the college level, if they can play under the right system. If they both declare this year, then they would also be steals.
And finally, this site’s draft board used to have Andre Dawkins listed in the late second round. But now, he’s not even on it. I think he’s gonna surprise a lot of people if he slips, or signs on with another team as an undrafted FA. Like i have mentioned before in my other posts on this site, he was the best "lights-out assassin" for Duke, and was only overshadowed because of all the media attention that Parker and Hood were getting. But, he’s gonna be one of the biggest steals in this draft.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 7:34am #890720

hbomb3300
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Elfrid Peyton > Tyler Enis
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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 7:34am #890608

hbomb3300
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Elfrid Peyton > Tyler Enis
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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 8:48am #890726

OhCanada-
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Jordan Clarkson is better than Elfrid Payton.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 8:48am #890614

OhCanada-
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Jordan Clarkson is better than Elfrid Payton.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 10:16am #890631

reanimator
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GR3 went from overrated to comically underrated in a year.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 10:16am #890742

reanimator
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GR3 went from overrated to comically underrated in a year.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 1:38pm #890688

ProudGrandpa
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TJ Warren > Rodney Hood
Adreian Payne > Aaron Gordon
LaQuinton Ross/Melvin Ejim > DeAndre Daniels
James Young > Gary Harris
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Posted on: Fri, 04/18/2014 - 1:38pm #890800

ProudGrandpa
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TJ Warren > Rodney Hood
Adreian Payne > Aaron Gordon
LaQuinton Ross/Melvin Ejim > DeAndre Daniels
James Young > Gary Harris
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