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- Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:18pm #5182
j1232eParticipantI am so sick and tired of all these 10 -15 yr old kids trying to justify themseleves. I am 30 yrs old and have been a baskestball fanatic since the age of 8. I really don’t think a 12 yr old kid can tell me I am wrong. About anything, this site has been over taken by children. Schools out. I guess we have to listen to punks now!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:22pm #166013
Knicksboy34ParticipantWell, Im 16. Im studying to be a sports broadcaster for ESPN. Im going to think i know more than you. You can think you know more than us becasue youre older.
Pick a topic. Me and you lets discuss it.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:23pm #166014
Michael.S.Participantim good because im 16 lol
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:26pm #166017
llperezit’s pretty easy to tell who has basketball intelligence and who does’nt. The first clue is when people suggest moves that can’t be made. I saw a guy who said the thunder should cut Watson, atkins, and wilkins because they are’nt playing well then the thunder will have an extra 15 mill to spend. stuff like that makes me wonder how old people are.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:28pm #166020
j1232eParticipantlisten to the children. They know everything!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:29pm #166021
Knicksboy34ParticipantI agree. Everyone can make deals…and opinions…I see it all the time
PLAYER A is so overrated
Player B is not going this high in the draft
and they have no reason why…it gets me mad sometime.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:30pm #166022
llperezI’ve been watching religulously since the first dream team. I have more knowledge then anybody, hahaha. I have read numerous books on the history of the game and I’ve played my whole life. You kids have nothing on me.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:31pm #166023
j1232eParticipantThis site had week long conversations about something, now it is one and done. Thanks kids!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:31pm #166024
DeRozanfan11Ok guys guess how old I am based on my intelligence?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:31pm #166025
Knicksboy34Participantim16, i read the NBA encyclopedia and like memorized it. I love Basketball
I wanna take Avery Johnson’s job in 2011.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:34pm #166026
RickyRubio9ParticipantI, RickyRubio9 am 15, but i consider myself knowledgable because I visit NBA.com, Hoopshype.com, Hoopsworld.com, and NBAdraft.net daily and sometimes Draft Express. I didn’t start posting comments up until a couple months back because I wanted to make sure I was…ready? Instead of sounding stupid. I’ve been watching basketball since I was 9 and now I watch it almost all the time and play it. If you think all teens are stupid and don’t know much about the game then it’s your opinion, but don’t judge us all because there are some who like to put up stupid forums about idiotic trades that can’t happen and won’t happen. I never post up a stupid trade and I check just about every thing before giving my own opinion. I too want to become an NBA Analyst or Sportswriter, but my real dream is to play basketball in Europe because I just think I’m not good enough for the NBA. 🙂 So go ahead and call me stupid because I will never think I am when it comes to basketball. Basketball is honestly my love and believe it or not…my girlfriend kind of hates me for it, but I make her watch it and she’ll talk to me about it…she just gets jealous of how much time I spend on something basketball related.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:38pm #166028
Knicksboy34Participantcool.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:40pm #166030
llperezI’m sure you guys know a little about what’s going on. But I’m sure in ten years when you discuss basketball with teens, you will think they don’t know a whole lot either. Not saying you guys don’t, just most.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:43pm #166031
Jebass5ParticipantI am 14 and i consider myself knowledgeable about the NBA. Just because a few of the other users post things that you may see as dumb,impossible, etc. doesn’t mean we are all idiots and not all of them have to be 10-15 years old. you can make a discussion about anything regarding basketball and i can talk about it. Oh and most of us are in our prime, we still play the game we know the new offenses and all the up and coming players. we all watch each other and try to outshine each other. Your just 30 year old who is reading this on websites and you don’t even know about half the great players we know about. Ive been playing and watching basketball since i was 4.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:45pm #166032
Mr. BasketballParticipantderozan fan = 14 im going to guess.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:54pm #166034
j1232eParticipantI am not saying all of you are wrong but 65% of you do not no what you are talking about. Study maybe next year, little ones.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:59pm #166037
birdman1113Participantpoints mean nothing if you know the cheat you could have as many as you want. you do know a lot more about basketball than a 12 year old though.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 5:59pm #166038
j1232eParticipantare knowlegeble about the jazz. Now I know daddy did a liitle homework for you. Just kidding, your a knowledgeble kid for 12.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:02pm #166035
DeRozanfan11I am 12, but I consdier myself knowldgable. I am obsessed with basketball I’ve been playing and watching it since I was 4. I visit nbadraft.net and hoopsworld.com everyday. I can’t be that stupid considering that I have 87 points.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:03pm #166040
grizz32ParticipantIm 14, I know a lot about NBA. I can probably tell you every teams starting line-up. Most of the players stats. I go to all the websites read a lot of news. And who is the judge of a bad trade offer?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:12pm #166043
j1232eParticipantCan an you little people think you have knowlege! You are so young that you can not remember the 70’s 80’s maybe the 90’s The year is 2009. That means yo were born in 1997. Alot happend before that year, you are all rookies when it comes to TALK.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:17pm #166044
ricks17Participantlleperz22, i seen that post your talking about where if the thunder made the following moves could they make the playoffs next year. And the first thing it said was cut watson, atkins, and wilkens to free up 13 million in cap space. It was jerb2011, and he was serious about it. The worst thing was that every1 who responded bought into and thought it was a good idea.It was sad, i couldn’t respond to it because it hurt me as a basketball fan that they thought this was perfectly fine. There may be kids on here but some of them are probably twice as knowledgable as some of these other guys.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:19pm #166046
fastdanParticipantYou’re a grown man, stop putting down children.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:22pm #166048
noel2420Participantmen shut up with that my uncle is like 32 and he don’t even know what’s a shooting gaurd are what position lebron plays my little eight year old cousin knows more than him and he watches basketball less to so i don’t get your point.i think every one should be rated equally cause probaly some of these kids have intersting things to say and we should open our ears so e could listen to the future’s of the world
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:24pm #166049
j1232eParticipantbut it is hard to listen to y’all talk about stupidity and who should be traded for who. I think you all need a little bit more knowledge before you come here and talk out of your mind!
Nba has a salary cap and trades do not happen like this over night!0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:32pm #166055
rose2dabullzParticipantTrading away bad contracts are half of what most trades in the NBA are all about..Don’t you think the Knicks would of cut Zach Randolph if they could instead of trading him for a nothing, future salary dump? I’m so annoyed with these random trade proposals as well, which most wouldn’t even financially work, and even if they do would never happen..Personally, I’m 19, and I do get annoyed at how dumb most of the posts on this site are; but on the other hand going on here makes me feel like a genius!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:32pm #166056
leppyParticipantwhile some of them might be knowledgeable it takes years of experience to really know the game. young kids now a days know nothing of fundamentals. they also tend to overrate scoring and pay no attention to the other half of the game defense. there are plenty of adults who are half retarded on this site too. its annoying to see how dumb people can be about the game but you have to live with it
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:34pm #166057
Tim49461ParticipantOk…..Game winner right here…..You can’t talk about something you never saw…….Old people for the WIN!!! Ha most of you kids never saw michael Jordan……84-98 heck most you were born after he was 3 championships in….you know nothing of Magic, Kareem, Bird, Mchale, Dr.J etc etc. you can look at stats all you want but u will never be able to have a real discussion about them. Thus your knowledge of the game fails because you have no historical background to support any of your ideas.
*waits for the old people to give me a nice pat on the back*
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:37pm #166058
kotyParticipanti understand where u r coming from, but some teenagers are very knowledgable. I have been playing basketball for over 10 years and have followed basketball intensely for five years. I consider myself knowledgable, regarding the NBA, but i feel as if i know more about college/HS basketball. So don’t rip on teenagers, cuz some r very smart.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:38pm #166059
noel2420Participantthey have some young people with knowledge and some just do wat they wan’t but the ones that do stuff like that you could tell need more knowledge.but rember everyone is not perfect.and some trade’s make sense and would attract alot of attention. but all you need is to listen if you don’t listen it will just make you a kid
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:39pm #166060
kotyParticipanttim, this is the NBA draft, the PRESENT, and who says we know nothing about Jordan and Bird? Bird is my favorite player of all time, i probably know more about him than u do
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:41pm #166061
Mr.Duke 1426ParticipantI agree completely.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:43pm #166065
rose2dabullzParticipantYou don’t need to be old in years to understand the game..I for one am 19, and sure I love to watch the old games whenever they are on espn classic, but I don’t think you have to see far back in history to understand the game of basketball..It’s all about how much you watch it, play it, live it, etc, and how much you want to understand and learn everything about it
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:45pm #166066
kotyParticipantcompletely agree with rose2dabullz, even though i hate the bulls
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:46pm #166067
noel2420Participantyoung people probaly don’t know nothing about bird but old people probaly know nothing about lebron ,kobe ,wade ,paul,
dwight ,bibby , yao ming and other young greats that play this game0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:48pm #166068
rose2dabullzParticipantHow you watch the game, whether you watch it for just entertainment, or if you are entertained but at the same time studying the game of basketball..The more and more you watch to learn something, rather than just for entertainment the more knowledge of the game you will have..knowledge doesn’t come from Poopsworld or sites like that(though i do like realgm haha)..
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:51pm #166069
noel2420Participantyes this website is to talk about new generations not about retired players did u even see the name NBADRAFT.NET
it to talk about 09 and the future — not 1970’s and 1980’s0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:53pm #166070
j1232eParticipantI agree with koty. This is about this years draft. But i will dissagree with koty’s other comment about knowing more about bird than us. Children he was born before you, don’t think you know more about a person that retired before you were born. I watched bird play when I was your age. stop your stupidity YOU KNOW NOTHING about the old school players. Now if you want to talk about players that have played between 97-09 I will talk to you about them.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:54pm #166071
RickyRubio9Participantso kill us for not seeing some of the greats play, it isn’t like we diss them or say they are overrated. We all know how great Bird, Magic, and Jordan were. We have all heard about them and some have actually watched replays like myself, but in 10 years we’ll be saying to younger kids, you guys didn’t watch Kobe in his prime…I won’t though. As for not knowing the fundamentals. I always tell my teammates to stop trying to be flashy and make the simple play. I hate when they go behind the back in like a 2 on 0 fastbreak and do a stupid pass. Drive to the hoop and make the layup. I love the fundamentals and I try to teach my younger siblings to play the game the right way. All that flash, I can understand if it’s needed, but if you want to make a highlight reel or do stupid plays then go to AND1. I really hope you guys will read more threads and forums and actually base us on our thoughts and reactions instead of our age and not assume every kid doesn’t know the game. Otherwise I could say, all men over 25 on this website are bums…but it isn’t true. Just saying, ok I understand when someone proposes a stupid trade or acts bias due to their favorite team because discussed or their favorite player because I sometimes defend Rubio too much, but that John Bryant crap and T-Will destroying LeBron is just silly nonsense that’s a waste of our time to look at.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:54pm #166072
NYK2010ParticipantI know some kids around 20 they don’t even remember the Knicks 99 Finals run, to say 16 year olds know the game is a joke. They probably can’t even name the Lakers starters from the 3 peat earlier this decade.
Damn I feel old pushing 30 and I don’t know enough of the game to call myself an expert. To be a real scout/Gm you need a lot of experience. Theo Epstein was GM at the age of what 28 that was a rare case most GM’s/Coaches/Scouts now are least in their late 30’s.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:58pm #166074
j1232eParticipantYou are 100% right I agree with every thing you said, but I do not like these nd2k10 trades that have popped up every 15 min.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:59pm #166076
rose2dabullzParticipantI just don’t see where knowing about specific players makes you know about the game of basketball, whether it be old or new…Like I stated earlier, it’s more about experience and wanting to learn about the game than age..Thats where true basketball IQ comes from..btw NYK2010 Fisher-Kobe-Fox-Horry-Shaq..and they had such players as Horse Grant and Ron Harper on those teams..Just cause I know that though, doesn’t mean I know more about the actual game of basketball than someone else though
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:02pm #166078
llperezduring the 3peat changed each year. The pf was different every year(AC Green, Horace Grant, then Samaki Walker).
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:04pm #166080
j1232eParticipantyou are the poster child of stupiditty. Young and dumd!
Talk to me about basketball rather than try to prove yourself with stupidity!0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:06pm #166081
mbrown6495shut up I’m fourteen and me and most of the other teenagers pay way more attention than most adults we know about larry and his famous steal just cuz it happened bfore we were born doesn’t mean. We don’t know. About it
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:06pm #166082
rose2dabullzParticipantWas Horry or Fox the sixth man then? All I know is that Big Shot Bob and Fox were the one in there at the end of the game..Personally, I hated that team, and wanted the Blazers and Kings to beat them so bad haha
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:07pm #166083
rose2dabullzParticipantwhat do you want to talk about j1232e?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:08pm #166085
grizz32ParticipantIn the 70’s how many points was a free throw? 1 point, yeah it is the same now. What was a 15 footer worth? @ points same as now. The only difference from then and now are shorts sre longer, 3 point line, and players. There were three refs back then, an NBA champion, rookies, veterans, its all the same. How much difference is there from then and now. Who makes you more NBA knowlegable than younger people. You were 1 years old at the end of the 70’s and 11 at the end of the 80’s. How much more do you know than us?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:09pm #166086
zruc57Participanti stopped reading this thread after the 16 year old said he is studying to be a sports commentator.
kind of proves the OP’s argument.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:09pm #166087
RickyRubio9Participantanswer the question because honestly. I didn’t watch ball then and I only knew Kobe, Shaq, Grant, Fisher, and Fox were on those teams…I had just begun playing it…but before that I didn’t watch it like I do know. I also didn’t answer because lol well you could’ve just went to google and looked it up. I’m not saying that you did.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:11pm #166088
rose2dabullzParticipantyeah i could of, but I’m not that smart to do that lol..In basketball, it matters more about who finishes games rather than starts them, that’s what really matters
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:12pm #166089
j1232eParticipantThree pointers did not count. you little smart asses. Think about what you say before you say it juveniles.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:14pm #166091
rose2dabullzParticipantthats what he said, a difference between the game back then and today is the three point line..
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:15pm #166095
RickyRubio9Participantbut if you honestly are going to say you watched and played basketball at age four…seriously…
You probably didn’t understand the game because I know when I said I had just begun playing the game during the Lakers 3 peat that started early this decade I didn’t know what I was doing. I just knew to make the ball go into the hoop. 🙂 No kid, unless some type of prodigee can understand the game at such a young age. Most kids rather go play in dirt or a playground then stand around shooting or being told how the game works unless forced.0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:16pm #166097
llperezcan be very inteligent about basketball. But if you actually watch it and educate yourselves, then you only become more knowledgable as you see more and from different eras. If you guys don’t think basketball was any different in the 70’s or 80’s, then that shows how little you know. Personally, I think the game keeps evolving and getting better overall. Guys from the past raised the bar for guys today and the trend will only continue. Athleticism is at a whole nother level.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:18pm #166098
docholliday06ParticipantUr 30 years old and u are crying over this………..get a life
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:19pm #166099
grizz32ParticipantHey dickface shutup. Who really cares about your stupid remarks. This is a NBA DRAFT forum not a 30 year old cry baby saying he doesnt want to talk about basketball with teenagers. Age doesnt matter. Probably the best player in the game right now is 24. But he sure doesnt know as much about basketball as the 30 year olds.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:20pm #166100
rose2dabullzParticipantThe game has certainly evolved..the refs call everything much more tightly, and its much more of a perimeter oriented game than it was back in the day..I do think though, that players were better shooters back then, because they practiced much more on that..But they also seemed to be MUCH worse at dribbling, thats all I usually think about when I watch a classic game is how high all the players are dribbling
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:22pm #166102
rose2dabullzParticipantHAHA good point I guess LeBron is an idiot when it comes to b-ball knowledge lol..and don’t even say the best player is kobe, he has sooo much better players and coaches around him..It’s incredible LeBron lead his team to that many regular season wins, without him they would be the worst team in the league
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:23pm #166103
stoppre1213ParticipantThis is stupid and pointless. As long as kids use correct grammer, don’t spit out verbatum of the espn analysts, and can concepualize an argument – I’m good. This whole thing is just proving the point how this site is being detered away from basketball, and the draft in general. This stuff is nothing to be bragging about unless you are posting with Jessica Alba under you desks….so stop with how long you’ve been watching, reading, don’t give a crap, Rainman was a genius at counting that doesn’t mean I would trust him with my stocks.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:23pm #166106
shady00ParticipantI’m 18 and have been studying drafts since 2003. Don’t hate, appreciate.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:25pm #166109
rose2dabullzParticipantwish i could give you 100 points stoppre1213, and yes, jessica alba is indeed under my desk at this very moment
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:26pm #166110
RickyRubio9Participantdo us “youngsters” have to start….saying names? I’m not trying to suck up, but…it’s just his opinion. It’s how the older people think about us just like most of us think of little kids. Annoying and stupid to talk to. They just don’t like the fact that some people actually post like 7 things about JOHNFREAKINGBRYANT! Well, I guess i’m done with my opinion on this matter and hopefully the forums actually will improve after this and people won’t be so quick to post up the most ignorant ideas. Seriously…T-Will destroying LBJ??? That’s…like Kobe being destroyed by Jodie Meeks.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:28pm #166114
rose2dabullzParticipantyeah i saw that, i dont think that dude was being serious, he was just messing with you all..at least i hope so lol
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:29pm #166117
j1232eParticipantreally proves it self. All I was saying is 65% of you all don’t no nothing about the game. You all can critisize me about being old (30) But I have more knowledge than 95% of you underage punks. I respects the other half. Lets talk NBA and the draft rather than. Tell me i am 15 and smarter basketball knowledge than you talk. Cause you have NO CHANCE!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:33pm #166121
storm33Participantguys it’s not about age. when i was age 9, i could literally name EVERY player in the NBA. I was a legend in third grade because when i would go to my cousin’s house, i would impress all his friends by naming the whole rosters of teams. I am now 19 years old, and although I go on nbadraft.net and basketball-reference a fair amount, I’d say that I watched more and knew more about the current NBA when I was 9. Don’t discriminate based on age; just because someone makes a dumb comment, doesn’t mean they’re young. It just means they don’t have a high basketball iq.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:38pm #166127
j1232eParticipantI grew up and could name any player and were the went to college! Still can. I am sorry about this whole thing. I also think younger people should listen to their elder when it comes down to knowledgre!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:40pm #166133
rose2dabullzParticipantExactly what I was trying to tell them earlier..B-ball IQ and fully understanding and appreciating the game has nothing to do with the players and stats you know
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:42pm #166135
rose2dabullzParticipantI’m sorry if you did not understand what I meant
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:49pm #166145
Csharp3410ParticipantIm 7 and i love basketball
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:51pm #166148
boffacheeriosParticipantseriously, the reason why everyone knows you’re kids is because you you try to make up for it by saying something stupid like this:
Im 14, but i think i’m very knowledgable……………..
It’s stupid. I’m sure you are all very knowlegable, but coming here and going on hoopsworld doesn’t make you savvy. It’s truely IMPOSSIBLE for you to know close to as much as a 30 year old man who’s been doing the same thing as you for as long as you. And also Youtube doesn’t count as knowing all the up and coming players. I’m sure you look at the next years mock and say “hm, i guess i’ll haveto youtube this guy because THEY say he’s good. Which gets me to my main point. The difference between truely mature users and i would say anyone from 17 down is thinking for yourself. YOu have to be visionary, but not stupid. The single thing that makes you “knowlegable” about basketball is not reading/watching youtube videos, it’s watching the game of basketball in it’s entirety. And I’m guessing none of you even watched a whole game while you were sitting on the bench of the eighth grade team. So minus me all you want young people, but it doesnt change thefact that no matter what you may argue or complain, you are not experts, you’re sponges.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:53pm #166151
rose2dabullzParticipantyou are well beyond your age my man..and its Poopsworld, not Hoopsworld lol
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:57pm #166157
j1232eParticipanti dont think these childen respect the game. They are all about rubio should be number 1 because of WHAT!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 8:01pm #166159
rose2dabullzParticipantIf this draft didn’t have Blake Griffin in it lol
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 8:04pm #166162
j1232eParticipantlets all calm down and talk about the nba and the draft!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 8:50pm #166201
yer mate what you still live at home and work at mcdonals and get off over basketball players .. your awesome
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 8:57pm #166205
Snatalini247Participantinstead of immdiately being dicks to all the kids on here and attacking them why not maybe teach them some of this so called “basketball knowledge” that your so full of. I really think its pathetic that your complaining. This is a site for people who are interested in learning and dicussing information. Just because you think people dont know as much as you because of their age doesnt mean you should ruin it for them. Just try to enjoy the site and make it better for everyone. If you were so mature and intelligent you would probably already know to do that though…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 9:02pm #166209
j1232eParticipantI have a little respect for a couple, All I am saying is mature older people have no reason for being on this site anymore, because little kids will always say we are wrong and they are right. That is what I am trying to point out.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/16/2009 - 9:12pm #166213
Snatalini247Participanteven though one i will admit you just got smashed by a kid so not all of us are that dumb ; ) i will admit though we are very biased with our opinions and only look for players we like and can be very immature when it comes to looking at players especially if there not as flashy however atleast i would like to admit that i always look up to older people for knowledge especially since i pretty much learned everything i know about basketball and life from my father all i know is i just really love this site and really spend way to much time on here and i just find it interesting know matter how much we all learn and discover every year theres a new season and so much more out there to enjoy and this is why i love the world of professional sports and all of the things that are involved in it especially drafts
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 12:28am #166239
CavsDawgParticipantI believe age matters in the requirement, it’s impossible to say age doesn’t matter because the older people have seen the legends. I’ve heard people talk glorious things about michael jordan, yet they never actually saw him play. if you’ve never seen a guy play, you’re only talking about biased information.
on top of that, i’ve seen somebody compare blake griffin to charles barkley, despite being too young to remember actually watching Charles play. I’m 23 and can barely remember Barkley in his prime, there’s no way in hell a 16 year old can talk about him as a player unless they somehow busted out every game tape of his.
but there’s more to it than just age, what experience is there? did you play? did you coach? did you really do all the research? can you tell me the difference between the triangle offense jackson had in chicago from the triangle offense he’s had in LA? can you sit here and break down the financial part of the game?
there’s a lot of variables and you may see somebody whose 30 know a lot about style of play but you may see somebody whose 16 know about how the salary cap works.
Also, the most knowledgeable sounding people can leave bias at the door. reading a clipper fan call a laker fan a homer because the laker fan said DeAndre Jordan, despite being the worser of the 2 players now and the more likely to not succeed, would not be better than Andrew Bynum. that one really made me chuckle.
I’m a die hard cavs fan myself, but when I talk basketball, i’ll tell you whose good and who isn’t, whose overrated and who isn’t, who gets away with stuff.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 1:48am #166250
notacowParticipantJust a quick aside, one comment read “There were three refs back then”. Actually, the NBA changed from 2 referees to 3 around 2 decades ago.
If a person bases their knowledge of the game on how it’s currently played, they don’t really understand the game as it’s defined in the rule book. The game is no longer called like it used to be, and the play has changed considerably. If you compare games played before the last 10 or so years with the present, you’ll notice that it now seems increasingly more like wrestling than basketball. Many of the skills that used to be of great value no longer have the same esteem simply because it’s easy to disrupt finesse skills with brute force. IMO, the game is not nearly as interesting to watch in it’s current form. I watch basketball for basketball, not for wrestling, football, or rugby scrums. This trend seemed to accelerate when Shaquille O’Neal was allowed to blatantly use his “special skills” of knocking defenders out of the way with forearms to the chest…and the game has never been the same since.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 1:56am #166251
notacowParticipantAge increases the probability of increased knowledge and understanding simply because of the extra time to accumulate and assimilate knowledge, but isn’t the end all, be all.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 2:14am #166255
tac_bluesGod this is pathetic. How ironic that this is a thread about being childish, and yet people are just basically talking s@*t. Who cares if the 7 year olds have opinions? They are entitled to them, and if they are rubbish then they will rightfully be corrected. A 30 year old may have more knowlede, doesn’t make you the expert though. Lets talk basketball for god sake, not this petty insignificance.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 3:29am #166259
xbadgerhustlerParticipantfirst of all, one comment for doc holiday… when you make comments like “keep my name out your mouth” like you did a week ago, you lose credibility. You’re not hard talking trash on an NBA draft forum…. Nas would be ashamed.
One thing I’ll say is that age has a LOT to do with predicting a draft… A 12 year old who reads hoopshype everyday believes the rumors, believes all the hype, believes every player reaches his potential. After you’ve watched about 10-15 drafts you start to understand that less than 1% of the trades you hear about ever materialize. Hype doesn’t get you anything in the NBA, you have to go out and earn everything. Finally, MOST draftees will never reach their potential, and that has a lot to do with the situation they are in~ their coaches, the rosters they compete against, good vs bad team, etc. It’s impossible to know this until you’ve actually seen it go down a few times.
I think it’s funny that everyone is making predictions and opinions that they are CERTAIN about, when we don’t even know who these guys will play for! lol
food for thought:
You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions (ask more questions youngsters and try and gauge other people’s opinions rather than trying to state your opinions as fact- you’ll learn a lot!)
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. (i think that’s the difference, the oldies don’t try and say they KNOW everything, they try and hash it out with logic and use the past as an indication of what will happen this year)
i’m 21 by the way, so kind of inbetween?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 5:33am #166313
nepaliman_7Participantim 14- i dont think defense is unimportant. i go to sports sites every day to increase my knolwedge of basketball. i can beat my dad at basketball knowledge and hes been watching since patrick weing
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 5:42am #166321
Knicksboy34ParticipantAs a 16 year old, I think kids and adults alike know sports very well. The people who love Basketball will do history checks and stuff
I think we all know basketball well to a certain point and age should not matter.
J1232e….go sit in a rocking chair Gramps………..LOL
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 6:16am #166328
Stanford hoopsParticipantare yall serious…this is actually a fourm..lol..we must be running out of topics to talk about people…personally i think im fairly knowledgeable about basketball from playing it all my life as well as my brother playing it…bu i know im more knowledgeable then most about european basketball because of living,playing, and conversing as with my teammates and coaches over there..as far as age i dont think it matters to much because i recall meeting a kid about 12 years old who knew as much about basketball as some experts …to be honest you will probably find more kids who know more about basketball then adults because they eat drink breath basketball esspecially if they play organized basketball where as a older guy who plays at the Y every so often probably cant watch it as much because of work or taking care of there kids or the wife taking up alot of there time
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 6:18am #166330
jsdghifadgfuiogjkaghsdauigParticipant30 year old bitch who lives in his mothers basement. What you have been saying about teenagers has been obscure….we come here to have a good time sharing our opinions but have to hear bs from guys like you and Aminu from a while back. Please stop talking trash and let us all come together and talk about something we all have in common, the love for the game of basketball.
P.S. Im 16 years old.
OBAMA!
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