[valentine]

My All Underrated Team (now) and(all-time)

Now Team
PG- Jose Calderon
SG-Nick Young
SF-Wilson Chandler
PF-Kevin Love
C-Kendrick Perkins

All Time Team
PG- Mark Price
SG- Sidney Moncrief
SF-Elgin Baylor
PF-Buck Williams
C-Mark Eaton

what’s yours?

[JoeWolf1]

PG – Jarrod Jack
SG – John Salmons
SF – Luol Deng
PF – Luis Scola
C – Andrew Bogut

[McWinningParticipant]

pg Kirk Hinrich
sg John Salmons
sf Jeff Green
pf Al Jefferson
c Andris Biedrins

[NYK2010Participant]

PG- Jose Calderon
SG-Nick Young
SF-Wilson Chandler
PF-Luis Scola
C-Kendrick Perkins

[MrWoLeeParticipant]

pg: derron williams- he gets no love
sg: monta ellis
sf: deanny granger
pf: al jefferson
c: andris biedrins

[sideburn2goParticipant]

Randy Foye
JR Smith
Caron Butler
Leon Powe
Tyson Chandler

[FrankBlackBoi]

pg Jose Calderon
sg Nick Young
SF Wilson Chandler
pf emeka
c Kendrick Perkins

[FrankBlackBoi]

pg Jose Calderon
sg Nick Young
SF Wilson Chandler
pf emeka
c Kendrick Perkins

[FutureoftheGame]

PG: Chirs Duhon
SG: Jamal Crawford
SF: Julian Wright
PF:Nick Collison
C: Jeff Foster

[MallStax5Participant]

pg jannero pargo
sg jamal crawford
sf danny ganger
pf kenyon martin
c Andres Beindrins

six man jason terry

[B-ball fanParticipant]

pg: Monta Ellis
sg: Mickael Pietrus
sf: Ryan Gomes
pf: Antawn Jamison
c: Nene

[UofAxWildcatsParticipant]

how can u put julian wright in that group he hasnt proved anything in his time in the league

pg-jason terry
sg- jr smith
sf-andre igoudala
pf- al jefferson
c- kendrick perkins

[spencerishawesome]

PG Jose Calderon
SG Kevin Martin
SF Jeff Green
PF Luis Scola
C: Andrew Bogut

[RickyRubio9Participant]

PG: Kirk Hinrich
SG: John Salmons
SF: Caron Butler
PF: Luis Scola
C: A. Biedrins

[McWinningParticipant]

funny how i lost two points when all the players i put have been chosen by somone else two. oh and i forgot my 6th man.
6th man: Oj Mayo.

[gatorheelsParticipant]

Underrated Team
PG- Jameer Nelson
SG- Michael Redd
SF- Caron Butler
PF- Brandon Bass
C- Mehmet Okur

Undervalued Team
PG- George Hill
SG- McCants
SF- Brandan Wright
PF- Big Baby
C- Blatche

[MagikKnickParticipant]

PG – 2 months ago, i woulda said Ramon Sessions, now, Calderon
SG – Jamal Crawford
SF – Danny Granger
PF – Luis Scola
C – Andreis Beidrins(sp?)

[CLYDE-frazier10Participant]

over rated teams?

[spencerishawesome]

Overrated
PG: Mo Williams
SG: Nate Robinson
SF: Charlie V
PF: Kevin Garnett
C: Shaq

[Celtics341]

Overrated

PG- Steve Nash
SG- Kevin Martin
SF- Rudy Gay
PF- Dirk Nowitzki
C- Al Jefferson

[B-ball fanParticipant]

pg: Jameer Nelson or Mo Williams both get waay too much credit
sg: John Salmons
sf: Tayshaun Prince
pf: Ron Artest not really a power forward but plays like one sometimes couldnt think of another more overrated forward
c: Andrew Bynum

[spencerishawesome]

No way is Kevin Martin overrated. The guy has never been to an all-star game or even really been in the discussion(which he should be at least in the discussion). Realistically, as long as Evans is a suitable PG, Martin will average 25-4.5-3

[McWinningParticipant]

overrated.
pg Rajon Rando
sg Ben Gordon
sf Trever Ariza
pf Anderson Varejou
c Big z.

[UofAxWildcatsParticipant]

how can u put KG in overrated,,,WOW,,,how can he be overrated dude is a double double machine,,,

[B-ball fanParticipant]

No way is Dirk overrated. He gets criticized a lot for his teams failings and defensive shortcomeings, but he has hit so many game winners. He is one of the best players in the nba at the end of the game. I have seen him carry the mavs in games they had no business being competitive in. I remember one game in which he something like 25 of his teams final 30 points in a comeback versus the Lakers

[adjose5Participant]

underrated

pg- mike bibby
sg- delonte west
sf- tayshun prince
pf- udonis haslem
c- marcus camby

overrated-

pg- jameer nelson
sg- tracy mcgrady
sf- richard jefferson
pf- michael beasley
c- andrew bynum

[Pierre JordanParticipant]

PG: Jose Caulderon
SG: Eric Gordon
SF: Travis Outlaw (pure in the clutch)
PF: Troy Murphy
C: Andris Biedrins

[gatorheelsParticipant]

spencerishawesome- You are making yourself look like a fool now. You said I can’t call Raja Bell overrated but yet you say that Nate Robinson & Mo Williams are overrated. They are both better than Bell. By the way Kevin Garnett isn’t overrated.. r u serious? He is one of the best players in the league.

[spencerishawesome]

Actually, you’re the fool.

I never argued that Bell was not overrated, I simply stated that your logic in him being overrated is incorrect.

Mo Williams and Nate Robinson being better than Raja Bell have ZERO to do with them being overrated or not. Mo Williams is overrated because he somehow made the all-star team and struggles in big games even with LeBron. Nate is overrated because everyone thinks he is amazing because of his fame from the dunk contests. I love the little dude but he takes some terrible shots.

Raja Bell, although not starter material, is forced into the starting role because the team sucks. Nobody says Bell is good other than being a good defender and spot shooter, which that he is. Nobody overrates Bell AT ALL. He is rated about right,

I think you need to learn the difference between “Overrated” and “Good”, you are thinking they are one in the same.

[Celtics341]

Dirk cannot play C and with the low amount of C’s in the NBA, they often have to put a PF at C. He is overrated. He never developed a low post game until the last 3 seasons.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

How is Dampier a pf?

[B-ball fanParticipant]

He spends most of his time in the low post, has no perimeter skills and has legit center size, He is also a good rebounder and interior defender.
He is by no means a great player, He has no offense, but he is a c, not a pf

[Celtics341]

If Dirk was the best player on that team, he would have played C. He does not because he is not strong enough and he cannot play D well. Dirk is a offensive threat not a good defensive player.

Dampier is not a PF that is true.

[Celtics341]

Also, there has been many times where I seen Dirk play and he does well on O and then gets whipped on D. If the Spurs was healthy, they would have killed Dallas last season.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

The teams best player does not need to be a center or not be a pf Dirk is perimeter oriented player and he IS the best player on the Mavs If he was better he would still be a pf. That is what his skill set is suited for.
I agree that Dirk is not a good defensive player, but his offensive play more than makes up for that. Also, when you call a player overrated, you are talking about people’s perception of them and people talk about Dirk’s defensive weaknesses a lot so I don’t think that he is overrated. I don’t think he is especially overrated

[B-ball fanParticipant]

The Mavs could have beat a healthy Spurs team last year
The Spurs shoot so many jump shots, Dirks defensive liabilities wouldn’t be exposed as he defended Matt Bonner

[Pierre JordanParticipant]

PG: Jameer Nelson (good player? yea. ALLSTAR?!?!?!? wtf…)
SG: Brandon Roy (GREAT player… but he snubbed D-Will twice for All-Star)
SF: Shane Battier
PF: Amare (grab a rebound buddy)/ David West
C: Jermaine Oneal (ESPECIALLY IN HIS PRIME….. ahhhhhhh)

[B-ball fanParticipant]

Amare Stoudamire is overrated. He is a horrible rebounder in Phoenix’s fast paced play he averaged only 9 rebounds a game in a big role. He is bad defensively, andgets a lot of garbage hoops that are a product of the team.

[McWinningParticipant]

i agree with most of that list but im not letting somone diss one of my favorite players. you have to look at what Brandon Roy has done with a very young team by taking it to the playoffs, Dwill has Boozer, Okur, and Kerilinko to help him. while Roy has Aldridge and a bunch of young guns. if you take away Brandon Roy the Blazers are much worse than the Jazz minus Dwill. . i think Dwill deserves to be an All-Star, but not take Broys place,

[JNixonParticipant]

Under

PG: Jose Calderon/ DJ Augustin
SG:Andre Iguodala
SF: CARON BUTLER!!!!! (most underrated player in the game)
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
C: Chris Kaman

Over:

PG: Jameer Nelson ( a picture perfect example of an overrated player)
SG: Josh Howard
SF: Trevor Ariza
PF: Charlie V
C: Al Horford (Im sorry but I dont think he has/will get better than he was in his rookie yr, unless he switches to PF)
C: Andrew Bynum

[Pierre JordanParticipant]

Roy is a good player man but they are just well coached over there. They do well on defense and play at a slow pace. I’m not trying to knock Roy much but he is kinda of like a Joe Johnson (trust me, I used to be a season ticket holder) in the sense that his contribution is over appreciated when the success is more of a result of good coaching and team play. Portland has a great coaching staff and is using their players in the way they need to be used (except Rodriguez and Bayless).

Oh, and just to clear it up, I’m not saying Mike Woodson is a good coach but he knows defense (except when LeBron is playing).

[gatorheelsParticipant]

spencerishawesome- OK dude. I think being good or not & being overrated are related closer than you think. You might not think Bell is good but a lot of people feel Bell is a good NBA player… I don’t so I call him overrated…get over it. But hey that is just my opinion. Look at some of the list above… people are saying Big Z, Varejao, Battier are all overrated but that is OK for them to say hahah. Sorry if I hit a nerve with a couple of yall saying Bell is overrated. I mean yall cry like babies. I didn’t know Bell was some of yalls’ favorite player. I hate people that want to argue just for the sake of it. Bell is whack & he is a below average nba player simple & plain. Do some research & watch some games please.

[spencerishawesome]

and people say they respect you on here?? I dont see it.. Your argument of Bell being overrated consists of “get over it”, stop crying, and watch games.

Name one person anywhere ever who said Raja Bell is more than what he is (Spot shooter/ Good on ball defender). Nobody has! Nobody says he is a good starting SG in the NBA! Nobody says he is gonna be an all-star or anything close! People say it pretty much how it is with Bell. An ok player who happens to be in a bad situation so he is starting.

Come back when you have an argument, not just some nonsense.

[McWinningParticipant]

Boozer, Okur, and Kerinlinko, are all better than Portlands trhird option. (Outlaw maybe) dont forget they also have Millsap. and for the Jazz when Boozer is healthy its basicly the modern and not quite as good version of Stockton, Malone. Aldridge is good but id take Boozer over him, Williams is good but he has a better supporting cast than Roy right now. (not in the futere).

[gatorheelsParticipant]

spencerhawesisawesome- hey buddy I could care less what u think. Its sad when your best post the whole time you have been on this website has been a game of making up your own team…wow. & you don’t respect ME… haha OK You want to argue about the definition of overrated…get out of here

[spencerishawesome]

lol good argument, you have convinced me about Raja Bell being overrated.

[McWinningParticipant]

buddy and get out of here dont belong in the same speech.

[spencerishawesome]

In Raja Bell’s career as a sarter:
12.3 PPG 3.4 RPG 2.2 APG and makes 2 3’s a game shooting 42% from 3. On top of this he is one the tougher, better on-ball defenders in the league. He’s a pretty ok player. Overrated? No.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Bell has gotten up there in age and has dealt with some injuries as of late. I think he’s a quality role player. He’s a good, not great defender. You can’t always judge a good defender by steals and blocks. He’s hard nosed and doesn’t back down… Has good defensive awareness. He’s respectable on offense and can hit the outside jumper with consistency. I don’t think he’s overrated at all. He is what he is. I don’t know anyone who thinks he’s more than that.

[gatorheelsParticipant]

I have already stated my argument. Bell is a bench player at best. He shouldn’t be starting. He isn’t a good rebounder or passer. For being labled as such a good defender his steals & block stats are weak. I’m not talking about his career either.. he used to be a better defender than he is now. I’m talking right now & this past season Bell was not good. You might not say he is a good starter but people in the public view Bell as that & as quality player & I don’t think he is so I say he is overrated… haha it isn’t that big of a deal. I obviously think Bell is worse than you & iguodala think & that is fine. Everybody has their own view of who is overrated & what exactly overrated means. Overrated can mean overvalued!! So how do you explain KG is overrated? I think Garnett is one of the best players in the league.

If you think Bell is not overrated then that is fine. Maybe you need to learn the difference between overrated & overhyped.

We are using key terms differently while thinking we are saying the same thing.

[spencerishawesome]

I don’t like big men who think they’re gaurds. I don’t think he is one of the best to ever play, which many people do. He’s barely averaged 20 ppg over his career and only had 18 ppg, 9 rpg 2 yrs ago in their championship year

During the prime of his career he averaged 40 minutes a game and scored about 21-22 a game.

To put that into comparison, Rasheed Wallace in his prime averaged about 36-37 mpg and averaged about 19 ppg. KG does rebound better, but also turned it over more.

The guy is a beast, no doubt about it. I just don’t consider him one of the best players ever, as many do.

[Celtics341]

Wow, I cannot believe you think he’s not a top 40 player all time. I’m not even a Celtics fan and I think Garnett is top 40 all time.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

C.E.L.T.I.C.S.341… You’re really not a Celtics fan, huh?

[spencerishawesome]

A) He’s top-50, maybe top-40 idk
B)Why is your username Celtics if your not a Celtics fan?

[Celtics341]

Len Bias. Jersey Number 34 Team Drafted: Celtics The Original Celtics 34

Celtics341- there u go

[KiD MaGiC973Participant]

PG: Deron williams/ramon sessions
SG: Joe Johnson
SF:Matt Barnes
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:Mehmet Okur

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