[franfranParticipant]

 http://twitter.com/#!/AndreDrummond03

[DunksNJordans23Participant]

 Not surprised, but now I’m a little uninterested in Drummond for this year. I still would really like to see him go to college for a year after this year.

[shipargosParticipant]

 i think he is only avoiding an already crowded draft, 2013 draft appears to be less talented.

[shipargosParticipant]

 i think he is only avoiding an already crowded draft, 2013 draft appears to be less talented.

[DunksNJordans23Participant]

 Not surprised, but now I’m a little uninterested in Drummond for this year. I still would really like to see him go to college for a year after this year.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

By the way, happy birthday Andre! 18 years old, the guy is definitely old enough to make his own decisions.

[naugykdoggParticipant]

 He IS GOIN TO WILBRAHAM & MUNSON W KRIS DUNN.  

[naugykdoggParticipant]

 He IS GOIN TO WILBRAHAM & MUNSON W KRIS DUNN.  

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

By the way, happy birthday Andre! 18 years old, the guy is definitely old enough to make his own decisions.

[DunksNJordans23Participant]

 If only while he was making this statement he uttered "This fall I’m taking my talents to Wilbraham & Monson"

[DunksNJordans23Participant]

 If only while he was making this statement he uttered "This fall I’m taking my talents to Wilbraham & Monson"

[mwalling2117Participant]

Dang it my whole mock is ruined.

[mwalling2117Participant]

Dang it my whole mock is ruined.

[WizardofOzParticipant]

This still doesn’t eliminate him going in the 2012 draft. Technically, he has already graduated HS.

[WizardofOzParticipant]

This still doesn’t eliminate him going in the 2012 draft. Technically, he has already graduated HS.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Ok so, Im kinda confused.  Why exactly didn’t he choose to go to college instead of prep school?  Doesn’t he want better competition? 

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Ok so, Im kinda confused.  Why exactly didn’t he choose to go to college instead of prep school?  Doesn’t he want better competition? 

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

He could’ve saved this stunt..He didnt say anything we didnt already know..UConn,Kentucky,West Virginia and Georgetown were metioned  2 years ago as pssible destinations…..This stunt only proves he has his eyes on the 2012 draft…

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

He could’ve saved this stunt..He didnt say anything we didnt already know..UConn,Kentucky,West Virginia and Georgetown were metioned  2 years ago as pssible destinations…..This stunt only proves he has his eyes on the 2012 draft…

[HitsterParticipant]

I suppose that staying in Prep School means that his draft status cannot really be affected as if he came up against NCAA players then scouts might get a good conmparison of where he is compared to other players.But in Prep he can really dominate and scouts will only look at his upside and if we assume he’ll put up great draft camp measurements then he’ll be on every team’s high lottery radar.

Even if he does go to college in 2012 then I can still see him being a likely top pick contender whenever he declares if his game translates to the NCAA.

[HitsterParticipant]

I suppose that staying in Prep School means that his draft status cannot really be affected as if he came up against NCAA players then scouts might get a good conmparison of where he is compared to other players.But in Prep he can really dominate and scouts will only look at his upside and if we assume he’ll put up great draft camp measurements then he’ll be on every team’s high lottery radar.

Even if he does go to college in 2012 then I can still see him being a likely top pick contender whenever he declares if his game translates to the NCAA.

[Chill_dude03Participant]

He should go to Georgetown. At Georgetown he will learn the fundamentals a bigman needs to learn for the next level. He’ll work with Alonzo Morning and Patrick Ewing, 2 NBA Hall of Fame bigmen. It kills me when bigmen of Andre’s talent go to schools that produce bigmen that are busts like Conneticut or Ohio State.  Roy Hilbert is a good example of the Georgetown program. He was a complete bum in high school and now he is a solid pro. Greg Monroe another example. Sure he was a top 10 recruit coming out of high school but his skill set was nowhere near where it is now.

 

 

[Chill_dude03Participant]

He should go to Georgetown. At Georgetown he will learn the fundamentals a bigman needs to learn for the next level. He’ll work with Alonzo Morning and Patrick Ewing, 2 NBA Hall of Fame bigmen. It kills me when bigmen of Andre’s talent go to schools that produce bigmen that are busts like Conneticut or Ohio State.  Roy Hilbert is a good example of the Georgetown program. He was a complete bum in high school and now he is a solid pro. Greg Monroe another example. Sure he was a top 10 recruit coming out of high school but his skill set was nowhere near where it is now.

 

 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

 "I’d like to continue to learn about (the NBA) option," Drummond told ESPN, "but I’m not going to be making any decisions before the spring either way. I don’t think I’ll have too much to say about it until then. Most people have been really great about respecting my privacy through this process and I really appreciate that. I’m just ready to get back to school and basketball."

I suspect he is going to learn that David Stern just added one more demand on the players union for the next CBA. 

 

 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

 "I’d like to continue to learn about (the NBA) option," Drummond told ESPN, "but I’m not going to be making any decisions before the spring either way. I don’t think I’ll have too much to say about it until then. Most people have been really great about respecting my privacy through this process and I really appreciate that. I’m just ready to get back to school and basketball."

I suspect he is going to learn that David Stern just added one more demand on the players union for the next CBA. 

 

 

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Really, BTPH? I would ask you your source, but if it is anonymous than I would be cool with that. Either way, I have to say that while I do object to the existence of the age limit in general, I do not know why it would be changed. I think that every year of physical/mental maturation will help you contribute immediately (first few years in the league), but in the long run, I do not think staying in college necessarily makes a player better than had they entered the NBA when they were ready to play some role on a team rotation. Either way, do you think he is "demanding" it or just suggesting it? I find the current way to be a pretty decent compromise for both sides, and the Post Grad HS option has been talked about the entire time the age limit came into play before the 2006 Draft. Most players just kind of chose to go to college. If anything bleeding heart NCAA activists who believe in the sanctity of college education and taking a scholarship away from a "more deserving student athlete", would applaud his decision. I think this draft becomes a hell of a lot weaker without some of the freshman (and Drummond), though they at least were lucky that a few marquee guys stayed around.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Really, BTPH? I would ask you your source, but if it is anonymous than I would be cool with that. Either way, I have to say that while I do object to the existence of the age limit in general, I do not know why it would be changed. I think that every year of physical/mental maturation will help you contribute immediately (first few years in the league), but in the long run, I do not think staying in college necessarily makes a player better than had they entered the NBA when they were ready to play some role on a team rotation. Either way, do you think he is "demanding" it or just suggesting it? I find the current way to be a pretty decent compromise for both sides, and the Post Grad HS option has been talked about the entire time the age limit came into play before the 2006 Draft. Most players just kind of chose to go to college. If anything bleeding heart NCAA activists who believe in the sanctity of college education and taking a scholarship away from a "more deserving student athlete", would applaud his decision. I think this draft becomes a hell of a lot weaker without some of the freshman (and Drummond), though they at least were lucky that a few marquee guys stayed around.

[theTKOshowParticipant]

Rutgers head coach said that nba wants players a minimum of 3 yrs of college

http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/31255311

 

[theTKOshowParticipant]

Rutgers head coach said that nba wants players a minimum of 3 yrs of college

http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/31255311

 

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

I know he has done a good job at Rutgers (and was doing well at Robert Morris), but just because he is hearing they want it does not mean it is going to get done. I think we heard rumors about a three year age limit for a quite a while. It would destroy the heck out of this years draft depth, which I guess would not be terrible if the season indeed were cancelled, but I really doubt the players go for this. I can understand why they might not be adamant about the one year rule being abolished, but I have a really hard time thinking they stand for this. I completely agreed with what you wrote here BTPH, but I am a little surprised that the players just let this happen.

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/2012-draft-incredible-depth

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

I know he has done a good job at Rutgers (and was doing well at Robert Morris), but just because he is hearing they want it does not mean it is going to get done. I think we heard rumors about a three year age limit for a quite a while. It would destroy the heck out of this years draft depth, which I guess would not be terrible if the season indeed were cancelled, but I really doubt the players go for this. I can understand why they might not be adamant about the one year rule being abolished, but I have a really hard time thinking they stand for this. I completely agreed with what you wrote here BTPH, but I am a little surprised that the players just let this happen.

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/2012-draft-incredible-depth

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

The rule is in place because Stern wanted the league’s scouts and general managers out of high school gyms. If the commish now senses that there is a chance by way of a loophole that there might be a kid who could go #1 overall having not left high school gyms, then he is going to close that loophole. Even if the issue of raising the age isn’t a prominent aspect of negotiations, it will only take minimal awareness of this issue to address it.

Of all the things the players are going to fight, draft eligibility is at the bottom of the list. The players in the union are concerned about salary rollbacks and revenue splits, not some prep school kids. Guys can be philosophically opposed to the rule, but it is in no way worth them exerting energy when there are so many more pressing issues. Remember, it is an issue that impacts five to ten kids per year.

Also, the league is far better off when teenagers aren’t in the league. It is the premier basketball league in the world, and it should only want the best players on its rosters. The younger and less proven the draft prospect, the more likely it is that a bad team is going to carry another bum. It is bad for the league when players get drafted off AAU and Nike Hoop Summit performances. The rule has saved teams from possibly making huge mistakes. Look at Jereme Richmond. He would have gotten taken if he came out after high school. His true bum-like nature was not fully exposed at that point, but having been given that year to show himself to be an idiot teams even in this awful draft were wise enough to take a pass. Josh Selby showed that while he is a wonderful scorer when there is no defense being played, he doesn’t really know how to play in any sort of structure. Teams were saved from themselves on that one. Renardo Sidney and Josh Smith were highly thought of coming out of high school, but revealed themselves in college to just be a couple of fat kids. They showed how ineffective and immature they were by not being able to stay on the court. When Fab Melo is just standing in a jersey and shorts looks like an NBA center, but he could not even run up and down the court. Not only that, he topped that off by showing his true idiocy when he got arrested on a domestic violence charge. These are a lot of bums who would have been stealing NBA money, roster spots, and dirtying the name of the league if not for the rule. It isn’t perfect, but it is better.

Now, please don’t think I am tagging Drummond a bad person or potential bust because I am not. I don’t know. He has the physical makeup of an NBA star, but the fact of the matter is that AAU is not a good venue to be making NBA determinations.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

The rule is in place because Stern wanted the league’s scouts and general managers out of high school gyms. If the commish now senses that there is a chance by way of a loophole that there might be a kid who could go #1 overall having not left high school gyms, then he is going to close that loophole. Even if the issue of raising the age isn’t a prominent aspect of negotiations, it will only take minimal awareness of this issue to address it.

Of all the things the players are going to fight, draft eligibility is at the bottom of the list. The players in the union are concerned about salary rollbacks and revenue splits, not some prep school kids. Guys can be philosophically opposed to the rule, but it is in no way worth them exerting energy when there are so many more pressing issues. Remember, it is an issue that impacts five to ten kids per year.

Also, the league is far better off when teenagers aren’t in the league. It is the premier basketball league in the world, and it should only want the best players on its rosters. The younger and less proven the draft prospect, the more likely it is that a bad team is going to carry another bum. It is bad for the league when players get drafted off AAU and Nike Hoop Summit performances. The rule has saved teams from possibly making huge mistakes. Look at Jereme Richmond. He would have gotten taken if he came out after high school. His true bum-like nature was not fully exposed at that point, but having been given that year to show himself to be an idiot teams even in this awful draft were wise enough to take a pass. Josh Selby showed that while he is a wonderful scorer when there is no defense being played, he doesn’t really know how to play in any sort of structure. Teams were saved from themselves on that one. Renardo Sidney and Josh Smith were highly thought of coming out of high school, but revealed themselves in college to just be a couple of fat kids. They showed how ineffective and immature they were by not being able to stay on the court. When Fab Melo is just standing in a jersey and shorts looks like an NBA center, but he could not even run up and down the court. Not only that, he topped that off by showing his true idiocy when he got arrested on a domestic violence charge. These are a lot of bums who would have been stealing NBA money, roster spots, and dirtying the name of the league if not for the rule. It isn’t perfect, but it is better.

Now, please don’t think I am tagging Drummond a bad person or potential bust because I am not. I don’t know. He has the physical makeup of an NBA star, but the fact of the matter is that AAU is not a good venue to be making NBA determinations.

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

 fran fran staying on his grind

and BTPH makes some great great points 

+1

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

 fran fran staying on his grind

and BTPH makes some great great points 

+1

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