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- Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 1:31am #42117
HadzialijagicParticipantAndrew Wiggins has been getting some pretty crazy comparisons lately with some people saying hes the next GOAT. I wont go that far but when i watch him i see a lot of Tracy McGrady am i the only one? Just like TMac he is a fluid athlete a natural athlete hes also got a nice jump shot and ballhandling and hes roughly the same size as Tmac 6’8-6’9. Hopefully the injuries dont follow him.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 1:59am #699310
lalailaParticipantcall me crazy but how about 6’7 Russell Westbrook? it’s a pretty scary player lol?
Just blow by people, freakishly explosive, great great defensicve potential, versitile allaround but a natural scorer.. measurements wise plays so much bigger and stronger than numbers tell
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 2:45am #699313
RigelzParticipantDifficult to say at this stage it seems to me he is somewhere between KD and Lebron. He is very athletic but not physically as strong and powerful as Lebron at the same age, he is more similar to Kevin, he has a better shot than Lebron when he (James) was in high school and runs the floor even better and in this he remembers young Durant. His passing ability and court vision are not at the same level of Lebron but he has a better feeling for rebound (always thinking at Lebron 17 years old and the difference is minimal). I think he could be e better defender than KD and LJ but we’ll see…. His shot selection is a bit questionable, experience is needed.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 4:05am #699325
Toronto16ParticipantI must say I see a lot of Lebron in him too. He probably doesn’t have the court vision but he can score at will.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 4:06am #699326
Toronto16ParticipantLet me say a stronger Durant then.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 4:14am #699327
WolfRobParticipantThe Scottie Pippen comparison is pretty good…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 4:23am #699328
Lebron’s HairlineParticipantHe’s not going to be Durant, Durant at 17 was lighting up high school teams, I doubt Wiggins will kill the college game like Durant did. Wiggins is an insane athletic that is versatile and can play lockdown defense, he’s more of a Scottie pippen/LeBron James type of player
0- Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 4:46am #699333
WolfRobParticipantI heard a 17 year old Lebron had some success against high school teams as well… Durant wasn’t the only one 😉
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- Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 4:46am #699332
phila9012ParticipantHow about he is andrew wiggins. There will never be another LeBron. Wiggins has a chance to be great, but if you are great then there is no comparision, you are yourself. People kept trying to compare Lebron to Jordan, he is not, he is a totally different player. Nobody has been able to play all 5 positions and be a top five scorer and defender at each. I say lets wait and see on him at least till college or the NBA where he isnt playing against scrubs in high school. I know he has played good in the under a certain age world championships, but it is too early to tell, dont try to put him in a box and compare him to lebron or pippen right away because you will miss out on andrew wiggins being himself
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 5:03am #699335
RigelzParticipantScottie may be a good term of comparison, but i think there is a main difference: Pippen needed Jordan, Wiggins might not need anyone to emerge.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 6:12am #699353
bswervesParticipantBut I see a little MJ in his game. NOT saying he will ever be MJ (not even close), but as far as being 6’6", INSANE athleticism, ability to guard multiple positions well (see Julius Randle), good mid-range game, developing 3 pt range, electrifying dunks,killer instinct, and just having that "it" factor in spades, he brings to mind a young MJ.
Go ahead, neg away
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 6:35am #699361
blackice445ParticipantHonestly He reminds me nothing of Durant. I’d say the closest comparison would be Scottie Pippen. He’s got the potential to be a better version of Scottie Pippen. He won’t be all that great in college but in the NBA he will immediately dominate I believe. His physical tools and his natural talent and willingness to be great is an undeninable recipe for great success. I see him as the next superstar of the NBA, like a Lebron just not as good.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 9:56am #699411
WolfRobParticipantPeople forget how good Scottie was…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 10:12am #699412
RafterParticipantWiggins can be anything he wants to be, he’s one of the few players i’ve seen that could become one of the best players to ever play basketball, i’d say he’s the best high school prospect to come along since Oden and Durant, Wiggins just seems to be constantly evolving, getting better every game. Physically blessed and lighting quick, i knew he was fast but he’s as quick as most Point Guards when he gets his head down and shifts himself, besides being a road-runner, his all round athletic ability is extraordinary, he’s a natural sportsman and he’s be a standout in any other athletic activity.
He’s shown that he has the correct attitude, is confident in his own abilities but is not too confident to the point that it would radiate the impression that he’s narcissistically up himself, mentally advanced on the floor, his reading of the game is scary for a high-schooler at times:
An example of this was during the recent Wiggins and Randle match-up, in a rare in-direct moment in the match between the two stars, Wiggins posted up his man, Randle was on the perimeter and was retreating to the paint to stop his mark from getting into the paint for a rebound, Wiggins noticed Randle going to the paint and Wiggins used the space that Randle briefly occupied which gave Wiggins enough seperation from the defender to sink a hook shot.
Okay, Wiggins isn’t going to solve world hunger but to recognise where Randle was going, being aware of his defender’s position, while making sure that the ball didn’t get stolen and seizing the opportunity is generally overlooked due to how quickly it happens.
This wasn’t a glimpse or a flash either, he makes the right play most of the time.
He plays like he’s three steps ahead of everybody on the floor, it’s obvious that somebody in the family tree was a professional basketball player, his approach and poise is on a different planet compared to most high school players who aren’t as privileged, which on top of being a gifted athlete, makes Wiggins even more special.
Parker and Wiggins may be the 2014 draft version of the Carmelo and LeBron rivalry, it’ll be great to see Wiggins in the NBA as rookie to see the young Wiggins against the master Kobe and the former wonderkid turned champion veteran LeBron. Durant and Carmelo will be interesting match-ups too, it’s going to be really fun.
He’s the hands down number one pick in my opinion, Randle and Parker are both talented but Wiggins has something extra which elevates himself above those two. Andrew Wiggins will make Canada proud, he’s going to make an NBA franchise very happy and it’ll gives their fans a fresh hope going forward.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 10:42am #699419
GoJOSH HUESTISParticipantEasy. Tmac seems to be his potential. There games,height,athletic ability are almost mirror images at the same stage
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 11:17am #699427
CameronParticipantAt least Raptors fans can be comforted knowing they will ‘win’ the 1st pick in the 2014 draft and be able to select Wiggins.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 11:19am #699428
HaleParticipantHonestly I like the T-Mac comparison more then Pippen.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 11:25am #699430
derrickrose231Participantvince carter
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0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 3:22pm #699472
Snubs15ParticipantHis athleticism and the way he moves with the ball is Lebronesque… But thats about it with the lebron comparison. He has alot to improve on if he wants to get to Lebrons level but athleticism wise hes already there and maybe even better. His mom was a world class sprinter, winning some olympic medals in her time which is also why Wiggins is so freakishly athletic and explosive.
I like the Pippen comparison, but more athletic and a better scorer is what i would project. Still really early to be making comparisons but this is all just speculation.
0- Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 6:30pm #699525
GoJOSH HUESTISParticipantWhich is TMac. A mirror image
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- Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 3:27pm #699474
bloodwhen people try to compare 2 players who arent comparable,wiggins is very special player and why he must be compared to somebody…same thing with lebron,kd,dirk those kind of player are one in a lifetime,im not saying wiggins will be LBJ,KD,Dirk just that he is unique
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 4:39pm #699493
SonicSabotuerEidolonright it seems as tho ppl jump on any guy that is compared to a hof. Its to early the game is coming to easy when it gets harder for him and hes brung down a notch playing better talent on the ncaa level then compare.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 4:46pm #699495
WinterSoldierParticipantHe really reminds me of Rudy Gay(a more focused version) who was also a huge prospect coming out of high school.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 6:26pm #699524
tuck243ParticipantChocoboywnder about Jabari and Wiggins in another thread… But that’s not the issue here…
To me Wiggins plays like a 6’7 Westbrook… That’s not a knock on Wiggins because Westbrook is one of the best players in the NBA and scored 23 a game last year… Damn near the fastest player in the league and athletic ability is rivaled by few… To go along with stellar defense when he wants to… Wiggins even though improved his shot (Just like Westbrook) get majority of his points through transition and driving… His pull-up is getting better (Just like Westbrook)… He also getting a few of hussle points off offensive rebounds and loose balls (something Westbrook does well)…
He’s not a long or tall as Kevin Durant, nor does he have his jump shot… Although LeBron is one of the fastest players in the league in transition he’s not particularly quick in half court settings… He lacks an elite first step which doesn’t matter because he’s so damn strong at 6’8 250 pounds… LeBron can guard from 1-5 in the league… Wiggins for as good of defense he played on Randle would have a hard time guarding 4’s, 5’s, and some 3’s… He’s only 200 pounds… And if we are talking about the HS LeBron and Durant the situation is still the same… LeBron was an athletic Magic in HS… Nothing in Wiggins game says he’s anywhere near that…
The best comparison I see is Westbrook (as Pippen wasn’t really a scorer AND missed a lot of easy shots like Lamar Odom does)… Maybe a scoring Pippen??? Or how about a DeMar DeRozan that can play defense and score???
But truthfully I think a 6’7 Westbrook might be the best comparison one can have… Both around the 195-200 pound mark…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 6:31pm #699526
GoJOSH HUESTISParticipantMuch more like Tmac than Westbrook
Height
Athleticability
The way he moves
Body
Jumper
Same player at that age
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 6:38pm #699528
GoJOSH HUESTISParticipantOnly thing Wiggins has in common with Westbrook is athletic ability. Westbrook motor, and defense is much different
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/23/2012 - 9:51pm #699545
bloodOr how about a DeMar DeRozan that can play defense and score??? LMFAO,NIGGA IS U RETARDER OR SUMTHING hahahahahah,what kind of comparision is that ?!? DeRozan what can play defense and score hahahahhahaha
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/24/2012 - 9:00am #699687
tuck243ParticipantWhere do I start??? LMFAO,NIGGA IS U RETARDER OR SUMTHING!!!
First off, the rule of thumb is (and always have been) if you insult someone’s intelligence to at LEAST spell the FAWKING word right!!! Wtf is Retarder??? With grammar only a dumb ass would say "Is U"… The real question is, Motha Fawka are you a retard??? Your name is Blood… Come on now… YOU making this a little too easy for me pimp…
Now I shouldn’t have to explain myself to someone who obviously dropped out of school at the age of 6… BUUUUT, I’m going to do it anyway…
DeMar DeRozan is VERY TALENTED… Him and Wiggins are both 6’7 and about 200 pounds… Wirey strong, fast, quick, and VERY explosive… DeMar get A LOT of buckets in transition and at times seem unguardable while driving… Looks VERY similar to Wiggins on the move… DeMar averaged 17 last year but doesn’t have a realible shot AT ALL… Not really a scorer that Wiggins is (hence why I said "that can score")… Although DeRozan can play defense doesn’t have his mind on that end the whole game (and that’s why I said "and play defense")…
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Wiggins is such an unusual talent that there aren’t a lot of players in the league that possess his speed and quickness at that height… Tracy was VERY long and explosive, but not nearly as fast as Wiggins in the open court… But even with that the question comes which Tracy are you talking about??? Tracy was decent in Toronto and not really a scorer, but once he got to Orlando was a straight up hound… Wiggins doesn’t play like the Toronto Tracy and to be honest he doesn’t play like the Magic Tracy either… The last HS player I’ve seen that played like Tracy was Gerald Green… And Wiggins plays NOTHING like Gerald Green when he was in HS…
Why is it so hard for folks to say he’s a 6’7 Westbrook??? Is it because of the position he play??? Both are wirey strong, long, and athletic… SMH… To each its own… Don’t be mad when you start seeing the Westbrook comparisons everywhere, just know it started here first…
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/10/2012 - 1:39am #719570
SAPIWiKEParticipantThis wasn’t a glimpse or a flash either, he makes the right play most of the time.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/24/2012 - 7:12am #699643
jiggawhatParticipantTracy McGrady wasn’t *that* athletic, I think Wiggins is more athletic.
I’d compare him to LeBron James honestly, not as good of a prospect, and certainly not as big of a playmaker, but that’s the only comparison that makes sense to me. Scottie Pippen? Not feeling it, this guy scores more and moves more. Kobe Bryant? Not quite as quick and acrobatic as Kobe Bryant was who clearly looked like a guard.
On the other hand I’d compare Jabari Parker to Tracy McGrady. Yes I said it.
What makes Parker so good is that he’s so creative and polished. What made McGrady so good was his offensive skill set which was second to none except maybe Pierce/Bryant.
0- Posted on: Wed, 07/25/2012 - 2:58am #700021
kobyzParticipantJabari Parker seems like Paul Pierce type player if he reach his potential!
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/25/2012 - 2:55am #700020
kobyzParticipanti think Andrew Wiggins will be even more athletic player than LeBron James, cause he’s much more fluid, he has the body that lean but still strong, he has the build similar to MJ which is the best build to have for a basketball player.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/25/2012 - 3:30am #700028
theballerwayParticipantWas a hell of an athlete in HS tho, SERIOUS . He was notorious even for dunking with ease on guys as well as having a smooth perimetr game at 6’8 maybe 6’9. And we saw waht he did in the dunk contest in the league.
I think it was a decent comparison Wiggins jus doesnt seem to have the same one on one break down ball handling skills McGrady had
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/25/2012 - 3:47am #700030
PureshooterParticipantI was actually thinking maybe a young Dominique Wilkins. 6’7 and around 200 lbs. (Nique bulked up a bit later on) and super athletic, but fairly reliant on that athleticism as well. His ceiling is extremely high, but he still needs to refine his skill set.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/25/2012 - 5:17am #700051
F_Syep, that’s a good comparison for parker, paul pierce. his mid range game operates alike, and their lack of athleticism together with their good handling, and inside game makes them finish in similar ways imo.
i doubt wiggins will ever be more athletic than lebron, he will have a better "two feet" jump which lebron lacks. p.ss lebron is arguably the most athletic player, EVER.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/03/2012 - 10:12pm #717945
TomCaseyIVParticipantI like the t-Mac; but he looks a lot better than t-Mac; looks like a more athletic Kobe
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/03/2012 - 10:59pm #717948
JoeJoParticipantI don’t get the McGrady comparison at all. To be like McGrady, you have to be capable of being a point forward. McGrady was like the inefficient scoring version of Lebron. He was a special passer and ballhandler who ran most of the teams he was on more than the nominal point guards. His assist to turnover ratio was unrivaled among his generation of swingman besides Brandon Roy. I don’t think Wiggins is selfish but he played more like a scoring wing. I didn’t see the mentality to be a future point forward.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/10/2012 - 2:22am #719573
HitsterParticipantThe comparison that Aran uses on the profile is Scotty Pippen and that seems a good one to me. Would Grant Hill come anywhere near a comparison when he was drafted although Wiggins is perhaps more athletic and Hill was a better ball handler.
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/10/2012 - 5:49am #719593
SiggyParticipantGrant Hill when he was drafted was such a good all-around player though. Young G-Hill was even better than Pip at making plays for others off the bounce. Both Hill and Pip were point forwards, as was T-mac. I don’t think Wiggins has flashed enough playmaking or ball-handling skills to be one.
The comparison in this thread that I agree with the most is Rudy Gay.
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/10/2012 - 11:29am #719636
kobyzParticipanti think Wiggins has more sense of winning basketball and bette mental approach than Rudy Gay.
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/10/2012 - 12:10pm #719650
SiggyParticipantHow so? For all the praise for his physical gifts and ability to make jaw dropping plays, you don’t really hear anything about his ability to make plays for others, his leadership qualities or ability to make others around him better.
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/10/2012 - 2:24pm #719672
kobyzParticipanthe just know how to be in the right place at the right time and he play with elite intensity a la MKG…
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/10/2012 - 4:44pm #719692
SiggyParticipantI don’t see the elite intensity a la MKG. In fact one of the biggest knocks so far in his development is that he still has a tendency to float in and and out of games. Even with his immense talent, he can get into modes where he’s too selective when picking his spots.
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/10/2012 - 11:30am #719637
MUbballfanParticipantRandle, Parker, and Wiggins will be like Bosh, Melo, and LeBron.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/10/2012 - 12:27pm #719653
HOops1562ParticipantWiggins is not Lebron let’s stop the hype train please … i can see the Pippen comparison … but i don’t know if he’s at that "elite" level of defense yet ….
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