[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

Jimmer Fredette of BYU, Nolan Smith of Duke and JaJuan Johnson, all seniors, were joined on the team Monday by junior Kemba Walker of Connecticut and freshman Jared Sullinger of Ohio State… Marcus Morris of Kansas led the second team and was joined by Derrick Williams of Arizona, Ben Hansbrough of Notre Dame, Jordan Taylor of Wisconsin and Kawhi Leonard of San Diego State.

 

Are these teams right? I think you should switch Kemba with Hansborough, and switch Johnson with Williams. Other than that, the AP mostly got it right. Congrats to all these, and a shout out to my fellow Badger Jordan Taylor!!! 

[TRC1991Participant]

bro your going to get killed for saying walker should be on the 2nd team…absolutely no way kemba (probably the POY) doesnt deserve to be on the 1st team

 

but i do agree d-will should have made it over johnson

[jgunnaParticipant]

Boi Stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Williams over Johnson definitely, but baby brother Hansborough over Kemba?  What tournament are you watching?  Couldn’t have been the Big East, or NCAA.

[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

I think the POY is going to be Jimmer…Jimmer didn’t have as much talent around him as Kemba did, and BYU was arguably a better team than UConn this year.

I put Hansbrough over Kemba because the AP teams are for the regular season. Yes, Kemba has been killing it in the post season, but UConn lost a lot of games in the regular season. Hansbrough had less talent around him, and did more- ND won more games, and I believe beat UConn twice in the regular season, despite having more NBA-level talent than ND. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Hansbrough will get in the NBA, and Walker will be a Damon Stoudamire-like player in the NBA. I just think Hansbrough deserved first team over Walker because of their regular seasons. I believe player performance in elevating their team matters, and while Walker has more talent, Hansbrough did more for his team than Walker did. All that is why I put Hansbrough over Kemba.

On a related note, even if the Big East sent 11 teams to the tourney, UConn and Marquette (who barely even made the tourney) were the only ones to make it past the second round, so come tournament time, they’ve easily been the most disappointing conference.

[Mario88Participant]

Hansborough over kemba? are u crazy? Did u forget notredame had a experienced upperclass dominated team, you idiot.Kemba has been balling since maui.

[M-DYMESParticipant]

Johnson over Derrick Williams?  WTF  Williams deserves strong consideration for the Naismith and yet he gets put on AP 2nd below Johnson.  Wow.

[mlane83Participant]

What is wrong with Johnson making the 1st team?   He was a preseason first team all american.  He won player of the year in one of the best conferences in the country.  Williams is a great player yes, but he plays in the pac 10, sorry but I’d take the colonial conference over the pac 10 at this point.  Johnson put up huge numbers day in and day out against any and every team they played all year long.  He expanded his game and led the boilers to a second place finish when everyone expected the season to fall apart when hummel went down.  Williams had a great year and i can’t dispute that but look at the numbers.

Derrick Williams

38

30.0

19.5

8.3

1.1

1.0

0.7

2.6

.595

.746

.568

Derrick Williams

38

30.0

19.5

8.3

1.1

1.0

0.7

2.6

.595

.746

.568

Williams:  19.5 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.1 apg, 1.0 steals, .7 blocks, 2.6 turnovers, .565 fg %, .746 ft %, .568 3p %

Johnson:  20.5 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 1.0 apg, .9 steals, 2.3 blocks, 1.6 turnovers, .494 fg %, .809 ft%, .294 3p%

The numbers do not lie….Johnson more ppg, rpg, blocks, less turnovers, higher free throw %, 50% from the field.   SO WHY SHOULD WILLIAMS BE ON THIS TEAM OVER JOHNSON??????????

Williams is probably the better pro prospect, better 3 point shooter by far and is still maturing….But you can’t take away from what Johnson did when the team was put on his shoulders unexpectedly.

[HeroescantdieParticipant]

If i were to select ap 1st team all american, the first thing that i would put on the list is kemba walker.. No other player played like him this year.. jimmer was spectacular.. Nolan smith, sullinger and dwill would round up my ap 1st team all american..

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

I was really hoping Faried would have made the second team. Best defensive player in the nation and an underrated if inconsistant player on offense. 17.3 PPG, 14.5 RPG, 2.3 BPG and 1.9 SPG on a 25-10 team and he brought it against good teams like Ohio State, Florida and Louisville as well as unranked teams. He finished the year with 29 double doubles the fifth highest total in NCAA div 1 history. Only David Robinson (31), Blake Griffin, Xavier McDaniel and Jerry West (all with 30) had more

[llperez]

"The numbers do not lie….Johnson more ppg, rpg, blocks, less turnovers, higher free throw %, 50% from the field. SO WHY SHOULD WILLIAMS BE ON THIS TEAM OVER JOHNSON??????????"

uhm, johnson averagerd 1 more point and 0.3 more rebounds while playing 5 more minutes per game.

Why even bring up the 50% fg when williams shot 60%?

So basically what you have left is less turnover, more blocks and better ft%

I can counter that by bringing up the better fg%, the better 3pt%, the more assists the more steals the highest points per shot in america.

So yeah, the numbers dont lie, but considering johnsons arent any better, im not sure what point you were trying to make. And the pac 10 showed itself just fine in the tournament with dwill making the elite 8 and being 1 shot away from the final 4 while johnsons team was blown out in the first weekend.

[mlane83Participant]

Ha ha really??????

Not did johnson just average more points per game, more rebounds per game.

You wanna counter with more assists?  by .1 really…..more steals by .1 really?  averaged 3 times more blocks than williams and not only that, He was a pre season 1st team all american and took everyone’s best shot day in and day out and still lived up to the hype.  Who had williams on the first team to start the year?  NO ONE.    I am not agruing Williams is a top 3 pick in the draft, a complete stud all around but no way he makes the first team over johnson…..

You can’t even begin to compare the Pac 10 to the big 10….Only Indiana and Iowa are ranked outside the rpi top 100, the pac 10 has 5 teams rated in the top 100….Johnson faced Sullinger twice, mbakwe twice, michigan state twice, wisconsin twice on top of everyone else in the big 10…..And won conference player of the year…..There should be no debate about johnson on the first team….

[The lake show2]

Why Williams over Johnson though?..Johson lead his team o a higher ranking , more wins, and slightly better stats

[Colaa_2Participant]

Both Johnson and DWill deserved the spot – no doubt. Hummel went down again, and Johnson carried the load for Purdue. DWill just flat out balled all year. Tough choice, it really is.

Kemba deserves his 1st team. No doubt, anyone who says otherwise is simply a hater.

[llperez]

@mlane, my bringing up williams more assists and steals is every bit as relevent as you bringing up johnsons more rebounds by 0.3 and more points by 1 in 5 more minutes per game. ANd i really have no idea why you brought up johnsons fg% as an argument for johnson when he shoots 10% less then williams. Point is your comment was "stats dont lie" and then you put in capitals how could anyone pick williams over johnson based on stats. Im sorry, but the stats do not in any way favor johnson. If anything its a draw on stats. There is just as many stats in williams favtro as there are johnsons.

ANd the pac 10 rankings are so low for the same reason the conference usa rankings were so high, most that stuff is based on preseason predictons. As for discussing how tough the big men in each conference are, ucla absoultely ponded michigan state inside in the tournament, if michigan state was one of th ebetter interior teams from the big 10, i was not impressed. Pac 10 bigs like williams, vucevic, josh smith, bryan ammanning will all potentially be nba players next season. Lets see how many big 10 bigs will be in the nba.

[The lake show2]

Williams was on some All American teams. I think both should be on the team and the big ten was better than the PAC-10 top to bottom that’s not even debatable, But its not like Williams came out of nowhere. People knew who he was because he was a beast last year as well. There’s no clear cut facts that says one player should be over the other and obviously who ever voted felt Johnson deserved it more which is why he was first team all american

[llperez]

im fine with johnson being over williams, i didnt watch enough of johnson to even debate who should be ahead. But i do know the stats do not clearly lean towards either guy which was all i was saying. If someone thinks johnson is better, fine but dont act like the stats make it clear becasue i think williams stats are more impressive with fg%, the 3 point percentage the points per fg attempt(almost 2points per shot) and the fact everything other then blocks is pretty darn close despite the fact johnson played 5 more minutes per game.

[llperez]

also what conference he is in should be irrelevant. Derrick williams dropped: 27 on kansas, 22, 24 & 26 in 3 games vs washington, 22 & 15 in 2 games vs ucla, 20 & 20 in 2 games vs usc who were all solid tournament teams. And then in the tournament he went for 22, 17, 32 & 20 vs memphis, texas, duke and uconn. Yeah, im sure his stats were a product of playing against weak pac 10 teams.

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