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- Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 2:59pm #24922
montauriush4ParticipantIf Kyrie Irving stay in college, him and Austin will be one of the best backcourt in college. Where would you rank them next year as a backcourt and where will you rank them of all-time backcourt. How will they stats look like to you. where will they get pick at in the draft.
Next year they will be the best backcourt
Of all-time they will be in the top 20 of all -time backcourt
i think Austin Rivers will avg 20ppg 3a 4 reb 1 s and Kyrie Irving will avg 17ppg 9a 3reb 2s
Austin Rivers top 3 pick, i think he will go 2nd to Wizards
Kyrie Irving top 3 pick, i think he will go 3rd to Raptors or to the Kings
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 3:09pm #475888
Lotto StudParticipantIMO Rivers is the same as Nick Young……I wonder how would that work out.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 3:15pm #475889
DanEboyParticipantCurry will probably transfer again if Kyrie comes back……
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 3:24pm #475890
Lotto StudParticipantHow many times can a player transfer?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 3:30pm #475892
BasterdInABasketParticipanti think he could transfer again but hed have to sit out and give up his junior year eligibility. doubtful tho
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 3:37pm #475893
Lotto StudParticipantHe would never make it to the league if he went that route.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 4:12pm #475899
Steveni see:
backcourt being top 20 of all time.
i see there season going to the final four but losing.
i see rivers avg: 16 ppg, 3 rpg, 2 asp, 1 spg
i see irving: 14 ppg, 4 rpg, 10 apg, 2 spg
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 4:23pm #475903
DowJonezBFGParticipantCurry will stay, Duke has ran 3 guard back courts plenty of times, besides hy would he want to sit out another yr?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 4:24pm #475904
DowJonezBFGParticipantCurry will stay, Duke has ran 3 guard back courts plenty of times, besides hy would he want to sit out another yr?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 4:33pm #475909
Im Your FatherParticipantYou have no idea what you are talking about. Curry would not transfer if Irving were to stay.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 4:44pm #475920
DanEboyParticipantI was trying to be humorous…..for f@cks sake…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 5:06pm #475930
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantHey they’ll be great in Cameron but not the pros…Irving has to declare, another injury could hurt his draft position in next years class. He has to make it back for the tourney though.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 5:34pm #475945
LAKE SHOWHmmm. Best back court will mean they dominate while winning it. Unlv with Anderson hunt and Greg Anthony was killer on offense and D. Nolan smith and John scheyer put up points while winning it all. Jameer Nelson and delonte west was unstoppable. Khalid a. And Richard Hamilton were all conference. Khalid reeves and Damon stoudimire killed it. Bibby and Simon won a title and killed. Felton and mcCants. Ellington and Lawson
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 5:38pm #475947
MBRHParticipantWho was the last freshman guard to average 20 a game at duke or any high major in recent history, you got to hop of rivers D man he is good but he is not the second coming. People thought barnes would be the second coming and putting up 17-19 a game and said he was "cant miss", to me it certainly looks like they "missed"
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 5:52pm #475956
LAKE SHOWTOP TEN BACKCOURTS OF 21ST CENTURY
1. 2004-2005 Illinois Fighting Illini (5 wins)
This might be the best trio of guards in college basketball history. Going 37-2 but falling just short to one of the most potent starting fives of the modern era (UNC), the Illini’s legacy is a bit slighted. Still, it was Dee Brown, not Deron Williams, who was voted Sporting News’ National Player of the Year.
Deron Williams: 12.5 ppg, 6.8 apg
Dee Brown: 13.3 ppg, 4.5 apg, 1.8 spg (led NCAA in 3 point field goal %)
Luther Head: 15.9 ppg, 3.8 apg2. 1999-2000 Michigan State Spartans (6 wins)
While Mateen Cleaves and Mo Pete ran the show (both were first team All-America and Big Ten Players of the Year), a freshman J-Rich and a future NBA’er Charlie Bell complemented them perfectly. And considering they all had to share minutes, this might be the deepest backcourt of all-time.
Mateen Cleaves: 12.1 ppg, 6.9 apg, 1.4 spg (all-time Big Ten assists leader)
Morris Peterson: 16.8 ppg, 6 rpg
Charlie Bell: 11.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.2 spg
Jason Richardson: 5.2 ppg, 4.1 rpg3. 2000-2001 Duke Blue Devils (6 wins)
Many would say these guys were in fact #1 based on Jay Williams being the best point guard of the modern era (an undeniable fact). However, with the help of Boozer and Battier, I’ve always wondered how they managed to lose 4 regular season games. And also, I considered that Duhon as a freshman would not be able to compete with any of the guards above and that Dunleavy was never a true guard.
Jay Williams: 21.6 ppg, 6.1 apg, 2 spg
Chris Duhon: 7.2 ppg, 4.5 apg
Mike Dunleavy: 12.6 ppg, 5.7 rpg4. 2001-2002 Maryland Terrapins (6 wins)
This backcourt duo dominated the NCAA tournament unlike any before them (their narrowest margin of victory came over UConn in the Elite 8 when they won by 8). One of the best defensive guards ever, Juan Dixon averaged 26 ppg in the tournament and was unstoppable when it mattered most. Steve Blake might have been the best pure passer of anyone on this list.
Juan Dixon: 20.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.6 spg
Steve Blake: 7.9 ppg, 8 apg, 1.6 spg5. 2003-2004 St. Joseph’s Hawks (3 wins)
While their record is a little less telling considering the Atlantic 10 competition, they are the last team to go undefeated in the regular season. They were a last second John Lucas shot away from beating OSU, and considering history, this would have been unprecedented. This was before George Mason, and this was a team that had been good all season long. With no size and very little help otherwise (forgive me Pat Carroll), Nelson and West were the best small man duo of my lifetime.
Jameer Nelson: 20.6 ppg, 5.3 apg, 4.7 rpg, 3 spg
Delonte West: 18.9 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.7 apg, 51 FG%6. 2002-2003 Marquette Golden Eagles (4 wins)
The reason they’re behind St. Joes is because of their embarrassing Final Four appearance and comparably lackluster regular season. Dwayne Wade was completely shut down by Kirk Hinrich in the Final Four and the KU backcourt of Miles, Langford, and Hinrich slaughtered the Eagles by 33 points. So one could even make a legitimate case that they weren’t the best backcourt in 2003 (I’d disagree through the sum of their parts argument)
Travis Diener: 11.8 ppg, 5.6 apg
Dwayne Wade: 21.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 4.4 apg, 2.2 spg7. 2005-2006 Villanova Wildcats (3 wins)
In my humble opinion, the only guard trio that is at all comparable to the ‘05 Illini. Sadly, their thus far irrelevance in the NBA overshadows their incredible body of work in college. They were knocked out of the tourney in the Elite 8 simply because of their undersized front court’s inability to slow down Florida’s Horford, Noah, and Richard (they had nobody taller than 6′7″)
Randy Foye: 20.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 3.3 apg
Allan Ray: 18.5 ppg, 3.6 rpg
Kyle Lowry: 11 ppg, 3.9 apg, 2.3 spg8. 2007-2008 Memphis Tigers (5 wins)
Derrick Rose and Carmelo Anthony are the best one-and-done’s in history. I’ve never seen a point guard control the tempo and heartbeat of a game like D-Rose. He took the Tigers to a National Championship and dismantled the stellar backcourts of Texas’ Augustin-Abrams tandem and UCLA’s Collison-Westbrook tandem in the process.
Derrick Rose: 14 ppg, 4.5 apg, 4.2 rpg, 1.2 spg
Chris Douglas-Roberts: 17.3 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 55.4 FG%9. 2000-2001 Arizona Wildcats (5 wins)
If they hadn’t ran into Duke in the ‘01 National Championship, they would have had the most dominating tournament run of any I’ve ever seen. They cruised through their regional and won by no less than 10 points in every game except a nail-biter against the Frank Williams, Corey Bradford, Brian Cook-led Illini in the Elite 8. They had a great front court as well which hurts their legacy (Michael Wright, Loren Woods, Luke Walton)
Jason Gardner: 11.0 ppg, 4.2 apg, 1.6 spg
Gilbert Arenas: 16.2 ppg, 1.9 spg
Richard Jefferson: 11.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg10. 1999-2000 Ohio State Buckeyes (1 win)
The reason Scoonie and Redd are included here is because the year prior (‘98-’99) they went to the Final Four. They choked hard against Miami (FL) in the first year of the decade but still remained the most formidable Big Ten backcourt in history (statistically). The most impressive thing about these two was that Ohio State had 5 losing seasons before Redd and Penn came in and took them to that Final Four. The program hasn’t looked back since.
Scoonie Penn: 15.6 ppg, 4.4 apg, 4.4 rpg, 2.2 spg
Michael Redd: 17.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 7:43pm #476014
SDEParticipantThis is simple cause irving isnt coming back thats why Coach K look sad sometime when he talk about him cause of what he missing out on. its safe to say duke wasnt losing if he didnt get hurt. SMH for the Duke.
Irivng is special its something about him that say even with perry jones and them coming out take him #1. I dont know how good hes going to be but i wont be suprised if he become the face of the NbA
0 - Posted on: Tue, 01/18/2011 - 5:45am #476072
LAKE SHOWThe face of the NBA?..i think thatmight be taking it a tad too far.
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