Which young Frontcourt duo will be the best in 3 years? Blake Griffin and Deandre Jordan, Demarcus Cousins and Thomas Robinson, Derrick Favors an Enes Kanter, or Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond?
I'll say Cousins and Robinson because Cousins is already an established AS caliber player and T-Rob has enormous potential to become a star. Griffin is overrated and is a weaker post player who mostly dunks, and Jordan is ok but he isnt much of scoring threat. Favors and Kanter have both played mediocre so far in their careers but have potential to both turn into very good players. Monroe is very solid and will likely make an AS team within the next few years and Drummond is a wild card but if he plays like he did last night consistently he will be very good and be making GM's wonder why they didnt draft him earlier.
I will say Cousins and T-Rob in 1st with Griffin & Jordan/Monroe & Drummond duking it out for 2nd.
griffin and jordan. i think griffins offenseive game will really come along within the next few years, and then i think deandre jordan compliments him really well, and then you have to take into account they have the best point guard in the game which will help both of them ALOT.
I think Monroe and Drummond have the potential to be the best combined. Not a fan of Robinson or Jordan but I am tempted to take Cousins with whoever he is paired with. Wish it was Cousins and Drummond together.
All three have huge potential, but are still looking for a major breakout. My guess at this point is Monroe/Drummond.
I trust Detroit's staff to develop bigs. At the moment Monroe is probably the most efficient and consistent of the six players listed and Drummond probably has the highest potential. I see them being dominant in 2-3 years.
Favors/Kanter are next on my list. I think they'll be an elite duo. I also think, contrary to most projections, that Kanter will end up playing the 4 and Favors will play the 5 for most of their careers. These two both have incredible potential, but neither has shown enough at the NBA level to be too confident.
I think Cousins/Robinson have the highest likelihood of failure due to their terrible staff. Also, though Cousins oozes potential and is a beast at times, he's often inefficient with his offensive touches and he's only average on D. Moreover, both players are used to holding the rock a lot. I just don't love this combo for some reason.
Cousins & Robinson. Those two won't be bullied by anybody in this league.
Both solid offensive players and excellent rebounders. I agee.
I agree, although Drummond and Monroe have the potential to be the best due to both being very unique players, Trob and Cousins complement each other very well. These guys are bullies in the paint and will fight for every board
bargnani and valanciunus? but for real i'll take drummond and monroe
But honestly, I think the Monroe/Drummond combination has the potential to be the best of the groups listed.
As of now, I think Cousins is the best individual player, maybe with the highest potential too as I still feel he has a lot of room to grow and (especially) mature. So I'd probably place Cousins/Robinson second.
All of them should be great, though.
Edit: I guess Griffin could be considered the best individual of the group currently. But I'll stick with my choices in terms of tandems.
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1- Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond
2/3- Demarcus Cousins and Thomas Robinson
3/2- Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter
4- Blake Griffin and Deandre Jordan,
monroe and drummond. monroe will be more dominent at pf and drummond will be great at center defensivly until he developes offensively. when he developes offensivly your looking at the next twin towers.
I know these guys are super young and have lots of room to improve, but do any of these combos play well off one another? I'd say Cousins and Robinson have the best chance of changing that but Detroit's combo up front is the most tantalizing.
Damn Blake griffin is getting more and more underrated everyday... Deandre Jordan has probably already peaked since it is hard to see him doing post moves and making fts but Blake griffin is the best player listed and its not like he has already stopped inproving. this is gonna br his 3rd year playing. Demarcus cousins over Blake? Greg Monroe over Blake? Sure Blake has his flaws but hit me up when one other player listed averages 20 and 10. All the criticisms Blake is certainly warranted if he wants to be a franchise player but no one else listed are even considered an actual franchise player
When I mentioned Cousins as the best player currently, I added an *edit* at the bottom of my post to mention that Griffin may be the best current player instead.
That being said, I think these guys are closer than you think.
Stats aren't everything, but for the purpose of comparison:
Griffin - 20.7ppg 10.9rpg 3.2apg 0.8spg 0.7bpg .549 FG% .521 FT%
Cousins - 18.1ppg 11.0rpg 1.6apg 1.5spg 1.2bpg .448 FG% .702 FT%
Now, Griffins stat line is still much better (mainly due to FG% and advanced passing skills), but I don't think it's all that far apart. Although they both have 2 years of pro experience, Cousins is a little over 1 year younger with 1 less college season and 1 less pro season to learn from the sidelines. I think some consider Cousins to have a little more room to grow (though that is just opinion, and if Cousins doesn't mature he may not make the strides some feel he can make).
And like you mentioned, being labeled a 'franchise player' certainly puts you under the microscope. But playing with Chris Paul may help reduce that scrutiny a little. Not to mention get him a few more easy baskets. Griffin's FG% rised considerably from year 1 to year 2. And by no means do I think he is done improving, with or without Paul. I just think it is worth mentioning.
I'll completely agree with you about Monroe. I don't feel he has crossed the line to elite like Griffin has. Not to say he won't. But he hasn't as of yet. I think you can already make an argument that Cousins is elite though, even if just off of production.
I can certainly agree that Griffin isn't getting enough respect in this thread, though. Maybe Jordan's lower ceiling in a lot of peoples eyes is what drops that tandem lower in some rankings.
cousins is i think the closest player to blake griffin but i really struggle to see him ever being better than blake griffin. mind you cousins is the man in sacramento (yea they got a lot of chuckers but still) as hes putting up those numbers on a meager 45% shooting for a pf/c. meanwhile blake griffing is putting those numbers as a 2nd option. i think a 10% fg difference is huge in this case. cousins, being on a losing team, clearly has the green signal everytime as on a winning team he would never have the opportunity to put up 18 ppg on 45% shooting as a pf/c. blake griffin in the meanwhile is playing on a 4th seed playoff team playing off of cp3 putting up 20 on 55% which is great for a pf. i think if they switched places, cousins would be averaging like 15 points a game while blake would be putting up like 25 points a game. yes the clippers have chris paul which definitely gives blake some easy shots but looking just at stats, blake griffin had better stats last year on a losing team. i just think that efficiency>usage and in this case blake griffin is both producing with more efficiency and less usage. the only skill i see blake losing out to cousins is probably free throw shooting which is pretty horrible lol you just can't be a franchise player with a 52% ft and taht goes out to dwight too but in the meantime i definitely agree that blake griffin and deandre jordan tandem shouldn't be 1st in this thread since deandre jordan does not belong with the other names mentioned lol.
edit: probably should have organized this better to make it easier on the eyes lol
I agree with most of your points. The organization doesn't take away from the points you made. +1
But again, I do agree with a lot of those points. There is no arguing that Griffin is the more efficient player. And that the 10% FG difference is in fact enormous. Griffin has proven more and is probably the better player right now. And if his development curve continues he could be the best of the bunch for the next 10 years.
That being said, the threat did ask for predicting the best front court in 3 years from now. So I think it is reasonable for some to have the opinion that other tandems could be better. Particularly if some worry about Jordan's offensive potential or overall ceiling. These predictions are obviously mostly opinion, and fun to discuss. I appreciate the feedback.
Also, the one thing I may disagree about is that if they switched places that Cousins would be a 15ppg player and Griffin would be a 25ppg player. But it's impossible for either of us to prove our stance there. I just think that all factors included, they could still be putting up at least similar numbers to what they legitimately put up.