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- Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 3:48pm #5242
stoppre1213ParticipantI think Marcus Thorton is absolutly raw, I think he should go early 20s and even then I think he will be in the league alot longer than people drafted before him. Who else do you think is looking to undervalued in terms of draft stock?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 3:50pm #166908
birdman1113ParticipantAj Price, if the point guards werent so deep he would go a lot higher but i think he could be a good nba player.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 3:54pm #166914
ZKParticipantGreat shooter, surprisingly athletic, decent ball handler. I think he could be a solid “burst of offense off the bench” guy for some team, but i’m not even seeing him in some mock drafts at all.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 3:54pm #166915
BlackMamba24ParticipantJeff Adrien will be a solid player once he gets drafted too. He is the human double-double. He is strong,athletic and will compete on the boards like Millsap does for Utah
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 3:56pm #166918
pintar23ParticipantJosh Heytvelt could be a sleeper. I never understand why he wasnt more dominant at Gonzaga. Maybe cause he was surrounded by good players. But he has good size, not bad with his back to the basket, and he can step out and shoot it from 15 feet. Danny Green could be a good role player on a team. He does so many little things that go unnoticed.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 3:57pm #166919
yoParticipantBest Shooter in the draft. Stepback or should I say Jumpback Jack!!
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 4:03pm #166929
Yankeep12ParticipantJeff Adrien is very undersized to compete with a lot of NBA 4’s and 5’s. I think Alonzo Gee from Alabama is a big sleeper. He is really athletic, strong, and quick. I think he can be a great guard for many years. Many people don’t see him as NBA material, but I see him as a late second round steal.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 4:10pm #166935
BlackMamba24ParticipantGee’s problem was that he never really progressed much in his career at Alabama. He never really understood what shots made him an effective player. He is very athletic, but he tries to use the athleticism for things that arent helpful. He tries to use it as a shortcut. He has the chance to be an excellent rebounder and defender.
Adrien was undersized at Uconn so i dont think he is worried about that. he actually does really well against 4’s that are back to the basket players like DeJuan Blair but struggled at time against players that are face-up guys like Sam Young. It is hard to find strong guys like him that can get you 10+ boards on a nightly basis
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 4:14pm #166937
wildhogParticipantI know everyone thinks Meeks has great potential already, but if he’s going to go as late in the draft as all these sites thinks he is then you still have to consider him as a sleeper candidate.Imho he goes early to mid- 2nd round.
And as for Marcus Thornton he has great potential as well, but im kind of ‘iffy’ on your early 20s pick idea…he could most definitely end up in the 1st round but I see him on the further end of it. He’s just to undersized for a shooting guard on the next level…thats why Meeks isnt projected to be that early.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 4:32pm #166948
JJ7ParticipantI reckon Jermaine Taylor. Will be Instant offence of the bench and has good size to compete. Like JR Smith. Patty Mills to will be a great guard who can shoot and could be as good as some of the other points in this draft especially Lawson and Maynor. Cavs and lakers should think about him
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 4:43pm #166951
NYKnicksuperFanParticipantJosh Akognon his combo of speed and shooting are downright lethal
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 5:12pm #166978
Meditated StatesParticipantMeeks is much better than that. If he goes anywhere near mid or late 2nd round he is a sleeper. This kid is a first round pick to me all the way. Teams and scouts have lost their mind if he goes where he is projected. Meeks is the sleeper. I also think Josh Heytvelt will be much better than projected, his game is more NBA.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 5:37pm #167001
Yankeep12ParticipantHow is a top 5 pick a sleeper?? Obviously, everyone knows he is gonna be good if he is picked so high.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 5:38pm #167002
NbanflguyParticipant+Great Shooter
+Excellent speed and change of pace ability
-Lacks The size and Physical tools of average NBA PG
I think he could really suprise some people if he gets a chance0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 5:39pm #167003
leithusrexParticipantPerhaps undervalued in draft stock, at least as of this site: (we’ll see…)
Terrence Williams (great floor vision and passing. point forward type at Louisville)
Considering the lack of PFs in this draft, i’m still surprised some of these guys are going so low. I understand they MAY not be as safe of an investment but still, any of these dudes could break out:
Jeff Pendergraph
Josh Heytvelt
Jon Brockman
Jeff AdrienThat’s about it. Too many PGs for me to even start to try to say who’s better than who. Other than the obvious… but you guys already know that.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 6:36pm #166993
jerb2011ParticipantThis is my biggest sleeper depending on where he goes. If he ands in OKC, he will be one of the best SGs in the game in years to come.
REASONS:
– Ability to get to free throw line
– All-around offensive polish
– Craftiness
– Decision making
– Efficiency
– Excellent skill-level
– Executes offensively
– Mix between scoring/passing
– Scoring instincts
– Shot-selection
– Transition play
– Versatility
– Ability to create own shot
– Aggressive slashing mentality
– Change of gears/Hesitation moves
– Ability to get in passing lanes
– Commitment to playing defense
– Off-ball defense
– Assertiveness
– Coachable
– Fundamentals
– Likelihood of reaching potential
– Strong Intangibles
– Unselfishness
– Winning mentality
– Work ethic
– Basketball instincts
– High-level productivity
– Left-handed
– Young for class
– Ability to create for others
– Court vision
– Passing skills
– Ability to finish around basket
– Balance
– Body control
– Coordination
– Solid frame
– Defensive rebounding
– 3-point shooting
– Ability to catch and shoot
– Lack of defensive pressure playing with Durant, Green, and Westbrook
– Sneaky Athletisismin a few years, with all of this young talent, the Thunder would be hard to defend
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 6:40pm #167073
nickactoneParticipantFrom USA Today
WESTWEGO, La. — Having played against Chris Paul and Team USA in the Beijing Olympics last summer, Australia’s Patrick Mills got a taste of what it could be like to play on Paul’s team in the NBA.
Mills was among six prospects — including LSU forward Terry Martin and Xavier (New Orleans) guard Shaun Dumas — who participated Tuesday in what could be the New Orleans Hornets’ final pre-draft workout.Hornets coach Byron Scott was quick to compliment Mills, a St. Mary’s guard who also led Australia with 20 points in a loss to the US national team in the Olympic quarterfinals.
“He’s a competitor,” Scott said. “He can flat out put it up. He can score. He’s a hell of a player.”
Also attending the workout were Gonzaga forward Josh Heytvelt, Georgetown forward DaJuan Summers and USC forward Taj Gibson.
At times, they played full-court, three-on-three scrimmages, during which Mills ran the floor relentlessly and sought to show that his ball-handling and passing ability were as reliable as his shooting.
Mills became labeled a scoring point guard at St. Mary’s, averaging more than 18 points per game during the 2008-09 season, despite being limited to 26 games because of a wrist injury.
Still, he was the only college player to see action in the last Olympics.
“A lot of people talk about me being a scoring point guard at St. Mary’s now and needing to transition that into … being more of a facilitator,” Mills said. “That’s something I’m familiar with, experiencing that in the Summer Olympics with the Australian national team, so I believe that any organization I go into, that transition for me will be OK.”
Mills added that he likes the Hornets’ fast-paced style and would relish an opportunity to be Paul’s back up.
“It would help me in my development as a player. There are many things I would be able to learn from him,” Mills said.
Scott was impressed with Mills’ conditioning. When the coach made the prospects run sprints near the end of the workout, Mills finished far ahead of the field.
“If you played him right now in a five-on-five game, he could run all day,” Scott said. “He’s in unbelievable condition.”
The Hornets pick 21st overall and could use a point guard. Instead of picking one in the draft, they could seek to bring back veteran Jannero Pargo, who left to play in Europe last season. Pargo visited New Orleans recently and said he is interested in returning.
Mills has worked out for seven teams so far and may not be available when the Hornets pick.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 6:43pm #167075
dolla33dionte christmas how can he be in the second round he a monster in shooting he should atleast be in the late first round that crazy if i need a shooting guard i would pick a guy like him the only thing wrong is his shot selection but everthing he throws up goes in most the time and his defense but he great player
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 7:09pm #167089
mb6297Jonas Jerebko
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 7:16pm #167091
piratejpParticipantLester Hudson is a small school guy who looks like he fits in with the big boys. He’ll go somewhere in the 2nd & could develop into a nice player.
DaJuan Summers is going to slide (my guess) & some team is going to nab him in the 40s and get a really solid SF.
The number of PGs picked in the 2nd round might hit double digits, and all of them are good enough to succeed. In the end, it’ll come down to the situation they find themselves in, but lots of sleeper potential just in that pool (as others have noted).
Oh, and Victor Claver is a lottery talent that will go in the mid-20s at the earliest, and more likely in the 30s.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 8:00pm #167103
brodiejayParticipantI agree with you guys about Patty Mills. If he slips to the second round, or even goes late in the first (I think he’ll be picked between #21 and #36), he’ll be an absolute steal. As stated by others above, not many of the impressive point guard class this year can say that they have not only played against, but excelled against the likes of Chris Paul, Deron Williams and Jason Kidd. I think he needs to find the right situation, but his playmaking ability was hidden at St. Mary’s where he was required to do the bulk of the scoring. You’d have a low FG percentage too if your options were shoot or dish to Brian Scalabrine’s overweight, unco-ordinated midget cousin. I’d like to see him go to the Lakers or Cavs and get a chance to be the backup point guard on an already established team. I think he’ll develop into a solid starter if given the chance. He has the potential to be a little bit Barbosa and a little bit Tony Parker. I guess only time will tell if he can do better than being a little bit Marcus Banks. As a fellow Aussie, I hope so.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 8:17pm #167104
dkatt32ParticipantNot a huge sleeper but hes kind of flying under the radar. He has all the skills to become a very good player at the next level. I also agree with a few of you guys Patty Mills would be a steal in the 2nd round. But will san antonio really pass on him…..I doubt it.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2009 - 9:31pm #167116
Lodzio20ParticipantWhat about Ahmad Nivins??
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