The number 1 overall pick in the 2009 NBA draft when his career is over which one would you choose in saying that Blake was a great NBA player. Win a championship as the number one option on his team. Average 25ppg 12rb 2.0bl for his career. 10 All star Game appearances. Win multiple championships as a key role player. Or play 15 to 20 years in the nba as an journey man type player.
I think he could be
1-3 time NBA champ
8-12 All star games
20-10 in 5-10 constitutive seasons
All Star MVP
You guys are giving this guy an awfully high ceiling.
yeah they are giving him the credit he deserves. the Boy is a Amazing Ball Player,with a lil free throw work and jump shot work the guy could be the best PF in History in my opinion! i think he will do amazing in the NBA
Anyone can blow out a Knee or have back issues .... lets not get so far ahead of ourselves...
im saying all this if he stays healthy of course. i think he is the most athletic PF out there hes basketball smart offensively and defensively.
Karl Malone from the get go is just ridiculous.
I'll say Derrick Colelman just for the hell of it. 12 time All-Star I doubt that
Let me preface this with the fact that I like B. Griffin and think he is the best prospect in this weak draft. What he currently possess skill wise and physically will not make him a 20-10 player, much less a HOF right off the bat. He is a slightly above average sized PF, with above average strength and athleticism, and an absolutely terrible wingspan and standing reach. He has an average post game that uses his athleticism more than skill (of course we have only seen it on display against double and triple teams). His jumpshot has nice form, but needs extensive practice and refinement. He does run the floor like a gazelle which will be fantastic in the open court. His defensive fundamentals are lacking, and taller and longer pfs (Garnett, Duncan, R. Wallace) will be able to shoot over him if he does not crowd them, and drive around him if he does crowd them if he does not work on getting in a lower defensive stance more consistently. That wing span of his will also limit his ability as a weak side defender, as he was not much of a shot blocker in college either.
Those short arms of his are really going to hurt. He may still be good, real good, possibly 20-10 for a couple seasons because of his athleticism, fantastic demeanor, and work ethic, but let us be realistic. He is not going to be one of the best players of all time, nor a number option on a championship team. He simply does not have the physical gifts to make a special impact defensively that is needed of a number one option. His offensive game works in college, but he will need a lot of time and work before he puts up 20+ a game in the NBA.
If you look up on DraftExpress.com their historical measurement chart, Blake Griffin has a standing reach of 8'9" and a wing span of 6'11.25". The PF with the shortest standing reach that is somewhat of an allstar is Josh Smith at 8'10.5", but he has a 7'0" wingspan and is more of a SF that plays the PF position. The next shortest standing reaches of PFs who are allstars belong to 2 players he is often compared to A. Stoudemire and C. Boozer who have SRes of 9'0.5" reach and 7'1.25" and 7'1.25" wing spans respectively. Neither of these players are known for their defense, but can put up 20+ and 10. I believe Griffin can each this level, even though he is physically not as long by bridging the gap with his work ethic, but that is all up to him. Its sad to say it, but there is a reason why the late and great Red Auerbach valued wingspan so much; its what makes a great player special.
I was disappointed when I saw his measurements, though at least his wingspan was roughly 2 inches longer than his height w/o shoes, which in my opinion is pretty much the minimum required to really excel in the L. You are right though. In the brutal pounding of NBA game after game, season after season, a lot of times guys who keep excelling when their explosiveness tires are the ones who are simply long enough to get to the hoop, using up less energy. Blake gets compared to Karl Malone a lot, but while I think he was a far superior athlete to the mailman, its worth noting that Malone had CRAZY long arms, almost making him a seven-plus footer, who didn't need to jump very high in order to excel.
Another example of a great athlete without great length is Kwame Brown. While he has some other issues (maturity and small hands) he also doesn't have the luxury some of the longer, less explosive big men do. He has to power up pretty much every time he goes for a dunk. Jordan drafted him based on his freakish quickness and strength. While I think Blake will be a much better pick than Kwame (who I kept hoping would pan out) he will have some of the same problems for sure.
I don't think Blake has terrible length however, and I agree with you that with his overall talent and work ethic i see him in at least a few all-star games.
Blake Griffin will more than likely be drafted by clppers (who will not run Blake more than 10 mins pg) as a rookie .
He will avg. no more than 8 points(and thats a stretch) 6 rebs(more of a stretch) on a team that will have to play Randolph,Camby,Kaman,D.Jordan even Thornton at the 4 and 5 heavily this year to even muster any trade possiblities for any of them. He wont get much time first year and 2nd year will probally be the same.If the Clips are as bad as the year before they'll be back in the lottery drafting Ed Davis/Monroe/Brakins/Patterson etc. and Blake will not be seeing major minutes anyway...All the Malone / Boozer / Barkley comparison's are very far off.If the Clippers are lucky someone the Thunder or Grizzles will think the same and make a play for him in the draft.He'll be no more than a young Kenyon Martin(athletic 4 that can run and jump,grab some boards,block a shot or 2 and dunk on people here and there.In all fairness K Mart had a promising career and thrived with J Kidd throwing him all those oops in NJ.I see Blake as that guy to a tee.Yes he can find an offensive game from now and the end of his career but someone who lives and dies above the rim will likely see alot of injuries and be limited to role player status eventualy.To pick Blake #1 straight up will look stupid in 3 to 5 years(yes he's the best athlete at a valuable posistion but he wont be the best power forward in the draft class this summer.Guys Like Hill, Harden and T.Evans will have more productive seasons over the next few years than Blake...A blind man could see that.........
I'll bet my left nut he plays at least 15 mins per game as long as he's healthy. Probably more even with their log jam at PF. However, I do think that some of these guys are definitely overrating him. I see maybe 4-5 all-star teams if hes lucky. No championships unless he leaves to go play with great players. Average maybe 16ppg and 8 rpg for career. The numbers Wizards gave could be career highs but not career averages.