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- Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 4:29am #41240
lolyouthParticipantJust as it was when they hired babysitter Mike Dunlap to coach the Bobcats (or "CATS" as their new jerseys will say, which is a pretty accurate description of them – noone is afraid of little kittens), the Cats again defied logic and selected MKG with the 2nd pick in the draft.
I am a NC native and unfortunately secretly root for the Bobcats, but realize they make downright stupid decisions as a franchise. Don’t get me wrong, MKG is a talented, good character, title winning player. However the Cats drafted for NEED instead of OVERALL talent. MKG is tailor made to play on a contending team and would have done well to slip a few more spots. They could have traded down to pick him and get some more peices. The Bobcats flat-out stink. They need EVERY position period. They needed to draft best talent, and most potential. Of all the risky picks they’ve made in the past, why were they too afraid to take a risk, like let’s say Andre Drummond.
Noone questions that he could be the 2nd best talent in the draft, but he was the biggest risk. What do the "Cats" have left to risk? They hired an unknown coach, lost historically last year, they needed to step up and take a gamble. MKG is a clone (probably a little better) of Gerald Wallace, who you traded away to re-build. Then you turn around and take (a good pick) another SF in Jeffery Taylor. He’s a lesser clone of MKG even. Why TWO SF’s??? You NEED every position available, but no you double up at one? Another head scratcher out of Charlotte, but what else would you expect from this badly ran team?
Again, don’t get me wrong I like MKG, but not for a horrible team like the Cats, and not at #2. So if your gonna neg me, just don’t do it cuz your and MKG fan, I like him too!
It’s sad when some of your biggest marketing campaigns are hyping/marketing the other team’s stars (as seen in pic below). Hey come watch us play all the other ALL-STARS in the league!!! …not our own sorrily put-together guys! FEAR the Cats! (kittens)
<img src="http://www.nba.com/bobcats/sites/bobcats/files/imagecache/slider_image/pick20-mainwindow.jpg" alt="Fear the Cats!" title="Fear the Cats!" border="1" />
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 4:30am #690350
lolyouthParticipant0- Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 8:01am #690455
DolanCareParticipantMKG was the 2nd best prospect in the draft IMO. But the Cats had no reason not to trade down and get more pick in the 1st and 2nd.
I doubt that they didn’t get any offers that would have worked. There were sources that said that the Cavs were prepared to give up their picks to move up.
I just hope MKG doesn’t lose his edge and attacking style while playing for this franchise. Which I think could be a possibility…. would MKG put his body on the line every game, when the games are never close? Not saying he’s a quitter, just a human.
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- Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 4:42am #690360
rwd5035ParticipantHow does it defy logic? The kid is a leader, and has a ridiculous motor. He’s a great defender, and a very good rebounder. Obviously, MKG needs to work better on his shot because he won’t always be able to get to the paint.
However, it’s asinine to say they defy logic just because they didn’t do what you wanted them too.
The Bobcats are a long term project, and need to rebuild entirely. MKG is a great starting point because he can be really good in two or three years when this team is ready to step up. They’ll end up with another top 5 pick next year most likely (I’d say 85% likely), and can get another great talent again.
The Bobcats just took a good step in the right direction. Kemba Walker should be better next season, if only they can get rid of that awful Tyrus Thomas contract.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 4:53am #690369
CAROLINA BLUE NICKParticipantI was a little dissapointed at first but it was a good pickup the more I thought about it. Jordan knows they are going to suck again. MKG is one of the best all around prospects in this draft. His only real weakness is his jumpshot. Guys like Wall, Rose, Jason Kidd, even Vince Carter weren’t known as shooters coming into the league. It can be developed and a guy like MKG will develop. He is too competitive to not get better. Plus the Bobcats are going to suck so they can get other young talent in the 2013 draft. Hopefully Shabazz Muhammad to go along with MKG. The pick makes sense.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 5:06am #690381
lolyouthParticipantOk guys, you forgot all of the good things I said about MKG. I like him too, however this franchise needed a BANG, not a just solid pick, then duplicated in the 2nd round.
Anyways, how is he gonna help them score more than 80pts per game? They might get better defensivley, but does it matter if they can only score 79pts a game? smh – #thinkoutsidethebox
0- Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 1:16pm #690558
GoJOSH HUESTISParticipantyeah they should have made a BANG and taken Drummond, then when he became a bust what would you have said? if you were the GM you would be fired for making that dumb pick. And no matter who they pick you really think they were going to score a lot of points with one rookie and the team that they have…….you must not have been watching this team this past season. Should they have gotten Beal or Waiters (two guys who put up one more point than MKG while taking more shots per game). Also i can see waiters becoming Kirk Snyder easily. I’m not sold on him at all
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- Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 5:16am #690384
niQParticipantI understand the Bobcats need offense, but having a defensive duo of MKG and Biyombo isn’t that bad to start. It’s the defensive culture they will need to keep that will lead to the offense.
I remember I was getting negged for even mentioning a possible trio of Biyombo, MKG, and Noel next draft. Although if they get a top pick, it might be Shabazz but still, how crazy of a defensive team would that be?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 5:27am #690395
CAROLINA BLUE NICKParticipantI never said you thought MKG was a bad pick. But Jordan went with the so called safer pick. They had already made a trade for Ben Gordon so they somewhat addressed their scoring problem with that pick. Plus going after Drummond wouldn’t have added scoring. Just would have been another defensive big who has potential but we don’t know if he will live up to it. I think Jordan was fearful of going after him after the Kwame Brown pick. I had wanted them to pick Barnes. Plus Barnes would have put some butts in the seats since he is a Tarheel but Barnes is a liabilty on the defensive end and I think that’s why they didn’t get him. And MKG is probably the best overall player. They needed scoring and MKG can score, he just isn’t a good shooter. He can slash, and get to the line. Which is why I think they traded for Ben Gordon. Him and Kemba or Him and DJ can be some good scorers off the bench.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 5:29am #690396
Jlv2012Look, this team isn’t going to be able to score for awhile, probably for 3-4 more years in the lottery. They need to just pickup pieces as they go. Maybe they will get the #1 next year then that changes everything.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 8:14am #690459
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWhat did you want them to do? They had the most difficult pick in the entire draft and they went with the safe-choice.
It’s not like they’re a championship level team, no matter who they drafted. They’re still going to be one of the worst teams next season even if they drafted Anthony Davis. They’re looking at the future. Guys like Nerlens Noel, Cody Zeller, James McAdoo, or Shabazz Muhammed.
Especially because the headlining prospects for next years class aren’t exactly all small forwards. They made this decision based on who’s going to be a top-5 pick next season.
If anything, they made the right choice, if they went with Bradley Beal and ended up in position to draft Shabazz Muhammad next season, they’d screw themselves. If they went big with T-Rob or Drummond, then drafting Noel, Zeller, or McAdoo would be rendered useless.
Instead they went with the small forward and the only good enough small forward to go in the top-5 next season is Alex Poythress, which is the same player as MKG.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 8:46am #690474
benny15Participantmore than anything, charlote needed to take not just someone who will give you numbers in the box score, but more than that. be a culture changer. thats what MKG is all about. the guy does everything for the team and has a great understanding of the big picture beyond his years. and if youre going with a player prospect with a high ceiling, then MKG is the safest choice. he’s very young, will turn 19 this year, has a great work ethic, desire, and passion for the game that doesnt raise any suspision of him becoming much better than how he currently is. add all of those mental factors in a 6’7", 230 pound, athletic 18 year old body and his potential is through the roof.
a prodigy at a young age, then talented a year later, and average after. thats what happens when talent is never developed or worked hard on. one thing you dont have to worry about with MKG. with all due respect to Gerald Wallace who i am a big fan of, he’s not what MKG can live-up to, he’s the basement.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 9:20am #690485
HitsterParticipantI’ll be interested to see how Charlotte line up as they sometimes had a starting SG to SF combo of Augustin, Walker and Henderson but with MKG and Gordon coming in then the starting line up will have to evolve. I would feel that as 2nd pick MKG would be looked to become a starter ASAP and getting him in position would make sense. I’d also assume that Henderson who started every game last year would remain as starting SG with either Augustin or Walker at PG and Ben Gordon playing his usual bench role. The Bobcats will have other players to accomodate including Jeffrey Taylor but with 144 minutes available per game at PG to SF and D-League options then their new coach can keep most guys in some sort of rotation.
MKG is a safe choice and I think that Charlotte had to take one out of him Robinson and Barnes so they look to have made a solid draft choice. They will be likely lottery next year as well where if they can get that elusive star player then they have the perfect running mate in MKG already in situ. I doubt that MKG will ever be a franchise player but his safe mid upside appears to be an Iggy type career which I’m sure Charlotte would take going forward.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 12:33pm #690551
DeShawns PotentialParticipantI really wasn’t upset about the MKG pick, like everyone said, he’s safe and he’ll shore up the small forward position for years to come. What i had a problem with was the selection of Jeffery Taylor in the second round. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’ll be a solid player, but, we already picked a better, younger version of him. I would have rather had Doron Lamb, or even Quincy Miller.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 1:12pm #690557
GoJOSH HUESTISParticipantThe thing is the Bobcats did both, safe pick and best player left when they took MKG. Why should they gamble again like they did with Morrison or MJ gamble again like he did with Kwame…yep that makes perfect sense. They did a great job in this pick for those reason’s plus next years lotto has no real good SF that i can think of off the top of my head and none that are as good as MKG or has his motor. Just like OKC picking Durant who was the best talent avalible plus a need and built from their, thats what the bobcats are doing. Next year get Bazz or Zeller and the year after pick up Harrison(the PG) unless Kemba turns into a star and in that case get Randle. This is all assuming they get high lotto picks which they should because they will be the worst team int he NBA for the next two years at least (not even including this season coming up)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 1:51pm #690575
kobyzParticipantwhat so hard to understand that the Bobcats look at MKG as a can’t miss prospect…
they probably consider in their evaluation on him potential, mentality and will and rightfully found that he is the second best prospect in the all draft.Bobcats also thought long-terms and notice MKG is the greatest piece for a winning team(which that what they want to become in the future) they could get, cause his influence on the game and team it’s much more than only the individual production at first sight, on top of that he make it much more easyer for the team to succeed(much like his buddy Anthony Davis), as he’s just prototype, a two way player, without holes in mentality and will and make everybody around him better with his intangibles.
i’m thinking MKG being underrated on this site, on defense he has great phisical tools, smart and relentless approach, on offense he is more natural player with the ball and proficient as a scorer and playmaker than what peopole give him credit, the only knock about him is his jump shot but he is so young he can improve on that.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/29/2012 - 10:08pm #690671
RapCityParticipantI like this pick. Looking down the road say 5 years from now, we might look back at this draft and say "see I told you they should have taken Drummund" or "I knew Perry Jones was gunna be a star" the fact of the matter is, given the Bobcats draft history this was the smartest pick. By now I’m sure Jordan and the rest of the Bobcat management are sick and tired of the word "potential". With MKG you get stability to your rebuilding roster, and know what your getting from day one. MKG is a winner and would help any franchise get better.
No matter who they draft, the Bobcats are almost guaranteed to a top 5 pick in next years draft. Either Zeller, McAdoo, Noel or Shabazz will drastically help this team. MKG blends well with all these players because he is a great glue man. Now you have a great young core, Ben Gordon’s contract is gone and now have some finacial stability to make a run at some players in a more talented 2013 free agent pool.
The Bobcats are making positive steps in their rebuilding process, just give everything some time to unfold.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/30/2012 - 1:06am #690686
crows2Participant"more than anything, charlote needed to take not just someone who will give you numbers in the box score, but more than that. be a culture changer"
Whoever said this nailed it. Charlotte need to completely change their culture. They need a winning mentality first and foremost. MKG gives them this. They’ll have another couple of high picks in the next few years to draft some more scoring talent, but MKG was the right pick here.
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