is anyone watching the game against the kings or at least checked out the score? omg!
The Kings are killing them with rebounding. Aldrich looks like he might get a solid 7 minutes here at the end of the 4th.
they are so bad that they should just automatically get the first 3 picks in this years draft. It wouldnt do much because this draft class is so GOD AWFUL. They are so bad and this years draft class is so BAD they are almost a lock for the first pick in 2014 so at least they'll get a star added to their team.
Oh and I dont care what anyone says about MKD, he had no business being drafted that high last year. Horrible decision by Jordan.
There is so much hindsight going on in this it's blowing my mind. He is 19 years old, it's his first season, he wasn't drafted to score points, and he has a motor like a ferrari. He was never meant to be the poster child of this franchise, but he was brought in to be a role player and a culture changer which he will certainly become. Our answer won't be this year either so don't come back here this time next year and be angry at Jordan for us being at the bottom of the barrel again. All of our eggs are in the Wiggins/Parker basket.
Also don't pretend like you are the kind of guy who "knew" Kenneth Faried or Andre Drummond or Damien Lillard or whoever else was going to become what they became, because you weren't.
"He was never meant to be the poster child of this franchise"
THEN WHY DID YOU DRAFT HIM AT THE # 2 SPOT WHEN YOU CLEARLY HAD BETTER OPTIONS???? I DONT CARE HOW OLD HE IS. YOU ESSENTIALLY WASTED A #2 PICK ON SOMEONE WHO IS A GOOD DEFENDER AND AVERAGES 7 POINTS A GAME??? COME ON.
"Also don't pretend like you are the kind of guy who "knew" Kenneth Faried or Andre Drummond or Damien Lillard or whoever else was going to become what they became, because you weren't."
I think anyone with any common sense that follows basketball could see the BobCats need help everywhere especially on offense. So you couldnt see that Beal, Lillard and even Drummond were better options????
He isnt a bad player but to draft him with the #2 slot over better talent doesnt make any sense.
I agree with you. He has a good future in the NBA, but the Cats need talent and scoring. MKG will be a good starter for many years, but they are still looking for franchise talent. There were more talented players in the draft last year.
Their offense might be the worst in NBA history. There were other players who could have helped them offensively right away.
Wasn't Kemba Walker supposed to be the culture changer? His work ethic? His winning ways?
his being part of the record loosing team in NBA history made them feel that they need more building blocks to support the culture change. and besides, theyre looking long term and felt there wasnt any first option talent available in the last draft. i do agree that there were much better offensive players such as beal, waiters, robinson and barnes who could have fit with them, but would they really be a better scoring option than Gerald Henderson who was a 15 PPG at the time?
personally i wanted them to go with T-Rob, but i am one of those people who feel he will become a better pro than what other people projected him to be. not really looking good at that right now, robinson having a sub-par rookie year and already been dealt in his career, i thought he could have brought similar culture change as MKG while filling the need for a post option/scorer.
They have Biyombo who hopefully can turn into a poor man's Ibaka (who has really improved his jumpshot this summer). They have Walker and Henderson who are both solid. I think Walker would be better as a scoring 6th man and ideally Henderson would be a great back up. Combine that with MKG and another solid player from this draft and you finally have a competitive team, IF you can get a superstar in 2014.
Kemba- Henderson- MKG- Biyombo- Zeller/Bennet/Noel- Parker/Wiggins/Randle would be a good core to build around.
Then combined that will Ben Gordon's expiring contract and they can keep most of these guys.
What happened to these bobcats?? i mean started the season with i believe an 8-7 record then mysteriously started to play atrocious basketball again. Lost by 22 to the clippers, 31 to the jazz and then just now by 36 to the kmings wow..
What happened to these bobcats?? i mean started the season with i believe an 8-7 record then mysteriously started to play atrocious basketball again. Lost by 22 to the clippers, 31 to the jazz and then just now by 36 to the kings wow..
What happened is pretty simple; Dunlap came in and tried to apply college coaching principles to the pro game, using full-court traps and other such techniques to win games early in the season. That is, until the scouting reports caught up with them, the college game-style didn't work any more and they didn't have the talent to make up for their lack of an offensive identity.
I agree that MKG was a bad pick for this team; he would have been perfect for any number of teams from 3 onwards - most of whom needed a guy like him, but the Bobcats just don't have the offensive firepower for the defensive advantages MKG brings to have any effect, and again, once they scouted his tendencies a bit it isn't that hard to stop a guy with a VERY limited offensive game.
I agree on the point about MKG. It was not that he was a mistake to take 2nd at the time, but he was a mistake for the Bobcats to take 2nd. Even at the time they took him they had a few people scratching their heads, though most stopped when he put up numbers and wins in summer league. Who would have thought that summer league might not be a very accurate indicator...
I don't agree with the point about MKG. Give the kid a break he's barely played one year in the league. He was a freshman who exceeded expectations at the college level in my opinion. I'm pretty sure not many people expected him to be as effective as he was in college. Especially in the shadow of Davis.
He was never meant to be a 15 PPG scorer out of the gate. He was brought in for defensive talent and potential. He is a winner, hard worker, and a guy with a good mindset. You're talking about a guy who wanted to 'change the culture'. That's leadership. These are all things the Bobcats need/needed.
Kemba Walker can score the ball well and is getting better. Ben Gordon was brought in to score the ball and has tailed off after a good start. I believe there were more questions marks about Beal, Drummond & even Lillard. With MKG you knew what you were getting, or at least should have. Anyone with a brain knows summer league is damn near irrelevant to league production, especially if you play 2 games!! And MJ isn't the GM either.
Why don't people give these kids some time instead of placing unrealistic expectations on rookies?
I think Jordan made the right call to be honest, as much as Lillard and Waiters have impressed, as much as Drummond has looked amazing and guys like Barnes, Beal and Ross have emerged as great picks so too will MKG whom I think will be this Team's Pippen, the Bobcats just need to find that prolific Scorer at Sg, getting a versatile 6th man would help them greatly too, so maybe they grab the Sg this year (Mohammed or Mclemore) and they'll add a great player at Sf or Pf in next year's monster draft class...Things aren't all bad in Bobcat country...Draft Shabazz and Julius Randall in back to back drafts, sign or trade for that X Factor on the interior and they'll have a team...
I think picking MKG was a smart decision, simply because he will be a nice complementary piece who you definitely need next to a superstar. On his one, he won't win games (which is better for the lottery anyway), but next to a star/scorer, he will help contending in the (far) future. What Charlotte needs is stability, both in ownership as in coaching. They need to choose how they want to play (based on this years pick), settle down and build based on that solid foundation.
If you were the Bobcats who do you even draft this year of course assuming they have a top 5 selection? Do you take a shot on Noel? Bazz? Mac? it should be an interesting decision which direction they go.
if i were Rich Cho, I would say B-Mac, Bazz, Bennet, and Zeller. if they dont end up being the worst team in the league and might actually drop to 5, then i would then take Noel and none of the above would be available. chances are that at least two of them would be since Marcus Smart and Otto Porter could be taken top 5 as well.