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Boozer for Bargnani talks..

The Chicago Bulls and Toronto Raptors have engaged in exploratory trade discussions on a deal that would swap the Bulls' Carlos Boozer for the Raptors' Andrea Bargnani, according to sources familiar with the discussions.

Other players with smaller contracts would have to be added to the deal to make the salary-cap math work should talks indeed progress to a more serious level. But sources told ESPN.com on Thursday that both teams have given consideration to the move.

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From Chicago's perspective, sources said, Bargnani's arrival could help address their glaring lack of 3-point shooting and brighten the overall look of its payroll, given that the Italian forward makes $5 million less than Boozer this season. Despite his well-chronicled defensive deficiencies, Bargnani would figure to be an effective pick-and-roll partner for Derrick Rose, once Rose makes his expected return from knee surgery after the All-Star break.

The biggest impediment to such a trade, sources said, is believed to be whether Toronto can realistically afford having both Rudy Gay and Boozer on its payroll beyond this season.

The Raptors, fresh off acquiring Gay from Memphis last week, have been openly shopping Bargnani, who resumed the most disappointing season of his career Wednesday night after missing 26 games with an elbow injury.

Although Toronto's desire to upgrade its front line is an open secret -- as confirmed by their long-running interest in trading for the Los Angeles Lakers' Pau Gasol before Gasol's foot injury this week -- it's believed the luxury-tax implications of trading for Boozer could ultimately dissuade the Raptors from such a deal, even if Chicago proved willing.

Raptors president Bryan Colangelo told local reporters after the Gay trade the team was prepared to stray into luxury-tax territory for the "right transaction." It remains to be seen whether a deal for Boozer qualifies.

It's long been assumed around the league the Bulls might consider releasing Boozer through the NBA's one-time amnesty provision at season's end. But Boozer has tuned out such talk to be one of Chicago's most productive players in 2013, rallying from a so-so start to average 19.5 points and 10.1 rebounds in January.

The NBA's annual trade deadline is Feb. 21 and the Raptors are known to be actively searching for a new home for Bargnani, who was selected with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2006 draft but has gradually fallen out of favor with Raptors fans after Toronto's four consecutive seasons out of the playoffs. Their list of potential trade partners is likely to be limited, however, because Bargnani -- on top of his on-court struggles this season -- has two years left on his contract after this one, valued at slightly more than $22 million total.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8927362/chicago-bulls-toronto-raptors-...
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interesting... yay or nay?


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As a Bulls fan, I don't know

As a Bulls fan, I don't know if I like this. Boozer is having a year. Only reason I see this happening is to get a decent player in return in Bargnani(plus whoever gets thrown in to make salary work) but also to relieve cap space to make a signing in the next year or two. Hopefully Bulls management has a SG in mind!

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idk, if rose wasnt injured,

idk, if rose wasnt injured, bargnani would spread the floor so much and would be great on the pick and roll.. unlike boozer.. i guess you would have to just wait until the bulls are completely healthy.

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As a Bulls fan, I don't know

As a Bulls fan, I don't know if I like this. Boozer is having a year. Only reason I see this happening is to get a decent player in return in Bargnani(plus whoever gets thrown in to make salary work) but also to relieve cap space to make a signing in the next year or two. Hopefully Bulls management has a SG in mind!

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I don't know... Bargs is

I don't know... Bargs is cheaper than Boozer, but he's a worse player. He's a worse rebounder and worse defender, which is saying something because Boozer is a terrible defender.

And I don't even think Bargs is that great of a shooter. I mean, he's OK.

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Bye Bye Boozer

not only would the Bulls get rid of Boozers horrible contract they get a good player back that would play very well with Noah.

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i'm usually quick to be

i'm usually quick to be excited for a move like this or not for the raptors but i still dunno what to say lol

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I am a Pacers fan and I would

I am a Pacers fan and I would love to see this happen. That way West can go out and abuse Bargnani even more than he did to Boozer and Gibson the otherday.

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Boozer has been playing much

Boozer has been playing much better this year. Really unsure about this because the Bulls could amnesty Boozer if they ever need too and won't have the option with Bargnani. Curious idea, but I am really on the fence about it.

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I wouldn't mind adding

I wouldn't mind adding Bargnani, but at Boozer's expense? Seems kind of risky. This guy has been 19-10 over the past month. If they could some how fleece Toronto into including Lowry, then I like the deal a lot more.

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Save Big Money at .....

Keeps the Bulls away from luxury tax and now Taj can start. Now the Bulls have a bench that has some great 3pt shooting with Bargnani, Belinelli, and Robinson

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I'm not fooled by Boozer's

I'm not fooled by Boozer's month of January. The only reason why I wouldn't want to do this deal is because the Bulls wouldn't be able to amnesty Bargs.
Otherwise, I think that the Bulls would be just as good if not better with Taj starting and having more scoring punch off the bench. Plus I think Bargs' contract (+ filler) would be easier to move than Boozer's.

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Oh yea

That's right, the Bulls wouldn't be able to amnesty him......

hmmmm tough choice now

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Sure

I think they will amnesty either player after the 13/14 season but it saves them almost 5 million dollars if the deals turns out. I would just love to get rid of Boozer because I have always hated him. Lazy, doesn't move his feet, hacks at the ball instead of playing D with his feet and getting into good position, struggles to finish at the rim, has lost his explosion-little that there was, drops 25 on the Bobcats but fails to show up against better teams and has been known to choke in big games and playoffs, constantly committing cheap stupid fouls, and I could go on. I know it is not much of an upgrade or perhaps even worse in regards to defense/effort with Bargs, along with injuries as well, but I just despise Boozer. He also is not the inside presence and shoots mostly 15-18 footers, fadeaways at that. At least Bargs outside shots count as 3 points and is a pick and pop threat with rose. Rose and Boozer have not played well together with Boozer playing much better w/o him.

Anyway the Bulls can get Terrence Ross in the deal? Even though he is still on rookie deal perhaps Toronto can't see being able to afford Ross, and/or find time for him with Gay/DeRozan? He is not getting a ton of minutes this year, has Toronto soured on him at all, or just cause he is a rook? No, probably not, just dreaming. I love Ross.

Just for fun...... Add in Charlotte #1 pick and Bulls 2013 #1 or something with this -
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aroxa22

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Raptors are definately going

Raptors are definately going to add some pieces to this trade since their contracts dont add up and i dont think the bulls would trade boozer for bargs straight up anyway . Bargs was pretty good last year,degressed this year but the talent is there, if he goes to the bulls, i just makes me wonder if he will improve defensively this time if this happens since bulls coach will demand it. Another question is Once Bargs is gone frome toronto, will he light them up like just about every ex player does.

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@scottoant93

Where have you been? Haven't seen you in ages.

As a Raptors' fan I hope this trade happens... Raptors need to make the playoffs because I personally don't want OKC to get our lottery pick lol.

Bargnani + Kleiza for Boozer + Mohammed

I think this trade would be beneficial for both teams, but we'll see how to goes. Lol, I totally agree that Bargnani will light up if he plays for Chicago.

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lol yeah i havent been on in

lol yeah i havent been on in a lonnnggg time, been working like crazy,getting some stuff worked out, and i finally got to go to college which im almost done with..good to be back, hopefully i iwll be able to post more now in days(actually about basketball though, i think im done with all the pics,etc)

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I as a Raptors fan would

I as a Raptors fan would personally rather give away my pick this year than next year...

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bargnani could share his

bargnani could share his primo pasta and sauce with belinelli again...

so i think this trade would benefit belinelli the most lol!

but yeah the raps would finally have a guy who can score in the post

lowry
derozan
gay
boozer
johnson

pretty decent starting 5 if you ask me

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Boozer doesn't play in the post. Majority of his points come from mid range.

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even a high post into a

even a high post into a faceup with a big is still better than what we have right now

the raps just move the ball around the 3 point line... nothing inside out. that leads the raps to end up doing their high pick and roll/ or pop with barg, or they run an iso

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The latest I'm hearing is

The latest I'm hearing is Boozer and Robinson for Bargnani and Lucas. Not sure if it is accurate but if that is the deal I think it is a pretty good deal for both sides. I think it favors the Raps a bit so wouldn't be surprised if the have to chip in a 2nd rd pick or Acy.

@druneave3 I don't think there is any way at the moment that Ross gets included in this deal.

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As someone who really likes

As someone who really likes the Bulls I don't know what to think of this. I mean I don't like Boozer but I'm not sure the Bulls get better with this trade.

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The interest makes sense for

The interest makes sense for Chicago. With Rose coming off a knee injury, the Bulls need to give him better spacing. They have needed to give him better spacing before, but now that he won't be as quick and explosive it is something they cannot put off much longer. Nobody steps out on Joakim Noah or Taj Gibson. Boozer's range taps out at around 17 or 18-feet. They cannot expect Rose to go 1 on 3 or 1 on 4 again, and expect it to get them anywhere in May. Bargnani isn't a number 1 option, and his steady decline offensively has coincided with Chris Bosh leaving for Miami. In Chicago, he can be reborn. For Boozer, he would be getting shafted. Playing with DeRozan, Lowry, and Rudy Gay isn't exactly ideal for an offensive player who needs touches. While Boozer is a better player than Bargnani at this moment, I think the Raptors would demand more, maybe a first rounder in 2014 or 2015 because the $10 million difference over the next two seasons is huge. The Bulls aren't going to amnesty Boozer because it is absurd to pay him $30 million plus to go away when they just overpaid Taj Gibson that limits their future flexibility. A trade would be their best option. I cannot imagine anybody is going to want a pick in the 20s this years, so it will have to be down the line. Mirotic isn't a trade asset, because he can just stay in Spain as opposed to coming over to the NBA if his only option is to play for a team with no hope.

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