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  • #51551
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    don042488
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    First and foremost, for the Pistons to get a talent such as Brandon Jennings, for 3 years $25 million was a steal…Remember people was calling him a left handed Iverson a couple years ago, when he dropped 55 points as a rookie…Remember Mo Cheeks who was a hell of a point guard in his hay days, is the coach of the Pistons now, and like he did for Damon Stadamire in Portland and Russell Westbrook, in OKC, he’ll tone down Brandon Jennings in a more efficient player…Also with Billups around, Jennings will learn a lot from him as well and become a better point guard/player…Also who knows if Jennings will remain a Piston for all 3 years, perhaps the Pistons could deal him later on for Rondo….The Celtics did say they wouldn’t part with Rondo, unless it’s for a comparable point guard, that’s more of a scorer

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  • #827754
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    I don’t know why you couldn’t just post this on the trade thread.

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  • #827643
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    I don’t know why you couldn’t just post this on the trade thread.

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  • #827670
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    Sharp Shooter
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    I agree Don! I think that with Chauncey, Cheeks, aboard they will help tone down his uptempo (somewhat wild) style of play. I do think that he will do better in Detroit due to the fact that he has better teammates to play with. But call it what you want between the contrast of BK and BJ…but what really sets them apart is that Jennings has that competitive fire to compete with other guards(and to spark the team), to where as BK has the work ethic. Sometimes as a pg you want someone with that competitive fire to ignite your team. BK did not do that, which is why I think that is the real reason behind trade. Also based on watching the pistons games last season Knight really did not not look like a leader, nor was he respected as a leader when he tried. I actually was rooting for him to have a comeback season. I will keep an eye on him in Milwaukee, and wish him the best.

    Sidenote: Is that Don042488 or CJ McCollum. haha

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  • #827781
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    I agree Don! I think that with Chauncey, Cheeks, aboard they will help tone down his uptempo (somewhat wild) style of play. I do think that he will do better in Detroit due to the fact that he has better teammates to play with. But call it what you want between the contrast of BK and BJ…but what really sets them apart is that Jennings has that competitive fire to compete with other guards(and to spark the team), to where as BK has the work ethic. Sometimes as a pg you want someone with that competitive fire to ignite your team. BK did not do that, which is why I think that is the real reason behind trade. Also based on watching the pistons games last season Knight really did not not look like a leader, nor was he respected as a leader when he tried. I actually was rooting for him to have a comeback season. I will keep an eye on him in Milwaukee, and wish him the best.

    Sidenote: Is that Don042488 or CJ McCollum. haha

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  • #827694
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    DolanCare
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    The contract is definitely reasonable. I’m just concerned with the team that the Pistons have put together. This team will have to address who takes how many shots. (Assuming that they don’t make any more offseason moves).

    Is the offense going to run through Jennings? He is still young and could develop. But right now, he is an inefficient shooter that had to share lead guard duties with Ellis. I watched quite a bit of Buck games last season, and Ellis was often forced to facilitate the offense because Jennings would make countless mental errors.

    Jennings may be able to make flashy passes, but that’s a very overrated skill. Iverson was a flashy passer, so is Tony Wroten. Meanwhile, Tony Parker facilitated once of the most efficient offenses using dozens of screens and fundamentally sound passes.

    My prediction, is that J.Smith will be taking lots of shots, while Jennings finds himself in the Jeff Teague role that Atlanta had.

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    • #827784
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      I don’t know why everyone thinks this is a bad trade for the Pistons because of team chemistry. As a Pistons fan I agree, this team will have issues meshing but that problem would’ve been present with Knight at point also so the trade changes nothing there. Think of it as a Knight for Jennings trade, since that’s pretty much what it was. Jennings did shot a high volume of shots with low fg%, but with his team he kind of had to. Other than that Jennings is a better version of Knight in every way and to get him at a decent price is a good trade.

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    • #827892
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      I don’t know why everyone thinks this is a bad trade for the Pistons because of team chemistry. As a Pistons fan I agree, this team will have issues meshing but that problem would’ve been present with Knight at point also so the trade changes nothing there. Think of it as a Knight for Jennings trade, since that’s pretty much what it was. Jennings did shot a high volume of shots with low fg%, but with his team he kind of had to. Other than that Jennings is a better version of Knight in every way and to get him at a decent price is a good trade.

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  • #827804
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    The contract is definitely reasonable. I’m just concerned with the team that the Pistons have put together. This team will have to address who takes how many shots. (Assuming that they don’t make any more offseason moves).

    Is the offense going to run through Jennings? He is still young and could develop. But right now, he is an inefficient shooter that had to share lead guard duties with Ellis. I watched quite a bit of Buck games last season, and Ellis was often forced to facilitate the offense because Jennings would make countless mental errors.

    Jennings may be able to make flashy passes, but that’s a very overrated skill. Iverson was a flashy passer, so is Tony Wroten. Meanwhile, Tony Parker facilitated once of the most efficient offenses using dozens of screens and fundamentally sound passes.

    My prediction, is that J.Smith will be taking lots of shots, while Jennings finds himself in the Jeff Teague role that Atlanta had.

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  • #827704
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    fennisdembo
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    The Pistons have finally turned it around. Rasheed will be a great influence on their bigs, Billups will get the guards rolling and they have a nice bench with Bynum, Stuckey and Charlie V. The Jennings contract in todays NBA is great because he is relatively cheap and movable if it doesn’t work out.(Jennings turned down a 10 mil a yr for 4 yrs extension don’t forget) Stuckey and Charlie V both come off the books next season which means this team has a lot of options going forward under the cap. And i absolutely love how big and strong our front line is, time to get back to lunchbox carrying, hardworking defensive smack you in your mouth bad boy culture. I think they have one more move to make this season involving one of the expiring contracts but they can wait to see how things pan out first. Its been a long 4 yrs of crap but they are back.

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    fennisdembo
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    The Pistons have finally turned it around. Rasheed will be a great influence on their bigs, Billups will get the guards rolling and they have a nice bench with Bynum, Stuckey and Charlie V. The Jennings contract in todays NBA is great because he is relatively cheap and movable if it doesn’t work out.(Jennings turned down a 10 mil a yr for 4 yrs extension don’t forget) Stuckey and Charlie V both come off the books next season which means this team has a lot of options going forward under the cap. And i absolutely love how big and strong our front line is, time to get back to lunchbox carrying, hardworking defensive smack you in your mouth bad boy culture. I think they have one more move to make this season involving one of the expiring contracts but they can wait to see how things pan out first. Its been a long 4 yrs of crap but they are back.

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  • #827706
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    All I can say is good luck to Detroit Fans… If anyone Thinks that Jennings is just gonna become some all star, pass first PG you are crazy… Mo Cheeks didn’t make Stiudemire or Westbrook better… Almost all of Stoudemires stats went down when he got to Portland including points assists rebounds and shooting percent… Westbrook improved every year but there is no reason to believe it had anything to do with Cheeks… Jennings is what he is and that’s a shoot first PG that doesn’t have the best shot selection… If Scott Skiles couldn’t change him then Mo Cheeks most likely cant… And that 55point game as a rookie may have hurt him more then help him… I like the Bucks side of this deal more then the Pistons side…

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  • #827816
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    All I can say is good luck to Detroit Fans… If anyone Thinks that Jennings is just gonna become some all star, pass first PG you are crazy… Mo Cheeks didn’t make Stiudemire or Westbrook better… Almost all of Stoudemires stats went down when he got to Portland including points assists rebounds and shooting percent… Westbrook improved every year but there is no reason to believe it had anything to do with Cheeks… Jennings is what he is and that’s a shoot first PG that doesn’t have the best shot selection… If Scott Skiles couldn’t change him then Mo Cheeks most likely cant… And that 55point game as a rookie may have hurt him more then help him… I like the Bucks side of this deal more then the Pistons side…

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  • #827980
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    Bmore_DC
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    Jennings, Smith, and Drummond will sure be fun to watch!

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    Bmore_DC
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    Jennings, Smith, and Drummond will sure be fun to watch!

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  • #827984
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    HobbyOG
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    People forget Jennings was a pure point guard in HS..pass first, and he was asked to shot more for the Bucks. I think his assist will increase, he has post players who can run the floor. Good trade for the Pistons.

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  • #827878
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    People forget Jennings was a pure point guard in HS..pass first, and he was asked to shot more for the Bucks. I think his assist will increase, he has post players who can run the floor. Good trade for the Pistons.

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  • #827904
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    Early in July, there was the rumor of Detroit being interested in Rudy Gay and Toronto wanting to wipe that slate clean (i.e. tank). Now that they have Smith, Jennings, Billups, Datome, Monroe, and Drummond, I wonder if Dumars has that one more move left.

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    Early in July, there was the rumor of Detroit being interested in Rudy Gay and Toronto wanting to wipe that slate clean (i.e. tank). Now that they have Smith, Jennings, Billups, Datome, Monroe, and Drummond, I wonder if Dumars has that one more move left.

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  • #827910
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    Bmore_DC
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    Itll be hard for Dumars to do anything else major without trading Monroe or Drummond…and i doubt he would want to…Although trading Monroe for a superstar might not be a bad idea if you think Drummond is ready to start at Center.

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  • #828016
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    Itll be hard for Dumars to do anything else major without trading Monroe or Drummond…and i doubt he would want to…Although trading Monroe for a superstar might not be a bad idea if you think Drummond is ready to start at Center.

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