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Chad Ford's 2012 Big Board

I tend to agree with most of these except for the exclusion of Dee Bost who is one of my sleepers. The some of the freshman are a little high too.

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  1. Anthony Davis
  2. Harrison Barnes
  3. Michael Gilchrist
  4. Perry Jones
  5. Quincy Miller
  6. Brad Beal
  7. James McAdoo
  8. Jared Sullinger
  9. Austin Rivers
  10. Terrence Jones
  11. Patric Young
  12. Marquis Teague
  13. John Henson
  14. Thomas Robinson
  15. Myck Kabongo
  16. Adonis Thomas
  17. Mason Plumlee
  18. Tyler Zeller
  19. Jeremy Lamb
  20. LeBryan Nash
  21. Jeff Taylor
  22. Josh Smith
  23. Kris Middleton
  24. CJ Leslie'
  25. Doron Lamb
  26. Tony Wroten
  27. Andrew Nicholson
  28. Terrence Ross
  29. Kendall Marshall
  30. Tomas Sortansky
  31. Mouphtaou Yarou
  32. Arnett Moultrie
  33. Festuz Ezeli
  34. Tu Holloway
  35. Lucas Noguiera
  36. Khem Birch
  37. PJ Hariston
  38. John Jenkins
  39. Augusto Lima
  40. Will Buford
  41. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
  42. Rodney Williams
  43. Wayne Blackshear
  44. Nenad Miljenovic
  45. Tyshawn Taylor
  46. Rakeem Christmas
  47. Kris Joseph
  48. Deshaun Thomas
  49. Nemanja Nedovic
  50. Keith Appling
  51. Deandre Daniels
  52. Evan Fournier
  53. Kevin Jones
  54. Ray McCallum
  55. JaMychal Green
  56. Elias Harris
  57. Alex Oriakhi
  58. Joesph Franch
  59. Tomislav Zubic
  60. Jordan Taylor
  61. Josiah Turner
  62. Micheal Carter-Williams
  63. Nurideen Lindsay
  64. Tony Mitchell(UNT)
  65. Aaric Murray
  66. Arsalan Kazemi
  67. Reggie Johnson
  68. Joffrey Lauvergne
  69. BJ Young
  70. Marshall Plumlee
  71. Fab Melo
  72. Renardo Sidney
  73. Leon Radosevic
  74. Trevor Mbakwe
  75. Cody Zeller
  76. John Shurna
  77. Miles Plumlee
  78. Peyton Siva
  79. Kenny Boynton
  80. Quincy Acy
  81. Wesley Witherspoon
  82. Will Barton
  83. Vander Blue
  84. Maalik Wayns
  85. Wally Judge'
  86. Darius Johnson-Odom
  87. Reggie Bullock
  88. Mario Delas
  89. Bradford Burgess
  90. Dejan Musli
  91. Dante Taylor
  92. Yancy Gates
  93. Hollis Thompson
  94. Seth Curry
  95. J'Covan Brown
  96. Xavier Gibson
  97. Nihad Djedovic
  98. Jamar Samuels
  99. Ashton Gibbs
  100. Micheal Snaer

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Barnes has to be #1 from the

Barnes has to be #1 from the get go no?

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Let's play the who won't

Let's play the who won't declare game!

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Maalik Wayns #84! YEA RIGHT

Maalik Wayns #84! YEA RIGHT DUDE! See this face ---------> O_o

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Oo I was going to mention

Oo I was going to mention that and Tim Hardaway Jr is missing too. Thanks for reminding me

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I swear Tony Wroten is a big

I swear Tony Wroten is a big time sleeper, that ankle injury really dropped him on a few boards, his freshman year he'll be sure to rise right back up, imo

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There is no way

Wayns is the 84th ranked player. He is DEFINATELY above Yarou

Marshall is only 29

Henson is at 13

Ok list though

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i think snaer should be

i think snaer should be higher. maybe that is just hs hype but the guy is better offensively than leslie who got drafted. snaer isnt quite as athletic but he isnt a slouch either. i mean is there really 99 players better than snaer? i doubt it.

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its sad to think that 2012's

its sad to think that 2012's 100th best prospect would have been a fringe 1st rounder in this draft

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Glad to see my boy Snaer

Glad to see my boy Snaer barely made the cut SMH has more potential then some of the guys on that list to be Dead Last.

Abdul Gaddy could have made this list!

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We all think we know who will

We all think we know who will declare........but who do you think will not from this list?

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Look out for Indiana's 2

Look out for Indiana's 2 prospects Christian Watford and Victor Oladipo. And don't say I didn't warn you about these 2. I'm not making guarantees like last year, but I do think both will be good, intriguing prospects. More so for 2013 though.

Watford is a face-up mismatch PF at 6'8 225-230. He's gotta get stronger and tougher, but he's a good talent.

Oladipo is a freak athlete. He's very similar to Travis Leslie. Long, strong physical high-flyer who's skill level is behind his athletic ability. He's the one of the absolute best athletes out there in college IMO.

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Some of those after 50 just

Some of those after 50 just get laughable. Maalik wayns, Vander Blue, Will Barton, Alex Oriakhi? These guys are far too low IMO. Wroten should be top 5 Imo. Beal is too high, other than that, decent. Would love for the new CBA to allow for highschoolers to declare. Get Drummond at 1.

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It's funny what can happen to

It's funny what can happen to a top prospect's stock over a couple of months without any games to play. Rivers went from a consensus top 3 guy to #9 behind Brad Beal and NBA draft.net has him going at #11 also behind Beal.

Kinda crazy, I still see Rivers as a top 5 player and capable of being an elite scorer in the NBA in the mold of Gilbert Arenas.

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Henson is way too high, right

Henson is way too high, right now he is just energetic, lont athletic guy without skills, Amir Johnson clone!

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Don't sleep on Tony Wroten!

Don't sleep on Tony Wroten! Ever since the ACL injury, the whole world's been sleepin on him! But he proved in the All-Star games that he's still got it. He'll be a one-and-done.

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How many of these guys would

How many of these guys would have gone number one this year? 4-6? At least 2 or 3.

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Drew Gordon should be on this

Drew Gordon should be on this list

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Good list but Mason Plumlee

Good list but Mason Plumlee too high, up until this point scoring is non-existant. Renardo Sidney's low ranking has almost nothing to do with his skill level outside of the fact that he needs to get in shape. Jelan Kendrick seems to have been forgotten.

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I think Tarik Black should be

I think Tarik Black should be on this list.

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I have no problem with

I have no problem with Terrence Ross being on this list. But my thing is how can you have him so high at 28, and not even have his teammate CJ Wilcox on the list. All I saw Ross do last year was be a stand still 3 point shooter. And Wilcox his pretty much the same player, a spot up shooter. Ross didn't do much more than him in all their games I've seen. So I just kind of don't get that huge discrepency there. W/e though, we'll see if they both can expand their games as their careers at Washington progress.

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If you click on positional

If you click on positional rankings you get some more guys so ill post those too, obviously Gillenwater and Majok are ineligible.

101 Orlando Johnson

102 Troy Gillenwater

103 CJ Wilcox

104 Brandon Paul

105 Furkan Aldemir

106 Draymond Green

107 Roscoe Smith

108 Jet Chang

109 Kostas Papanikolaou

110 Elijah Johnson

111 Drew Gordon

112 Anthony Jones

113 Olu Ashaolu

114 Dwight Powell

115 Brandon Triche

116 Jon Kreft

117 Abdoulaye Loum

118 Tomasz Nowakowski

119 Maurice Creek

120 Ralph Sampson III

121 Tim Hardaway Jr

122 Robert Sacre

123 Adreian Payne

124 Herb Pope

125 Negueba Samake

126 Nikos Pappas

127 Augustus Gilchrist

128 Dee Bost

129 Dion Waiters

130 Milton Jennings

131 Keith Clanton

132 Abdul Gaddy

133 Jelan Kendrick

134 Mfon Udofia

135 Royce White

136 Matthew Dellavadova

137 Laurence Bowers

138 Durand Scott

139 Domenic Cheek

140 Ater Majok

141 Marshawn Powell

142 Chris Braswell

143 Andrew Albicy

144 Chris Johnson

145 Kim English

146 Robbie Hummel

147 Leslie McDonald

148 Tony Woods

149 Taylor King

150 Ty Walker

151 Jon Riek

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He should have learned by now

He should have learned by now that he shouldn't overhype the kids coming out of high school. John Riek playing against overmatched prep school kids was 9th in 2008. In 2012, he is 151st. He has ten of his top twenty being incoming freshman, and I guarantee that come June 2012 there will not be anything close to ten freshmen going in the top twenty. I feel completely comfortable writing that because it has never before happened before, and when 2011 was supposed to be "the year of the freshman" it ended up with six freshmen actually being drafted (seven if you count Kanter) and all of three (four with Kanter) in the lottery.

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1 Michael Beasley PF 6-9 235 18 Kansas State Top 5
A big-time talent who will go very high as long as he behaves himself at... more
2 Derrick Rose PG 6-4 195 19 Memphis Top 5
The best pure point guard in the draft draws some comparisons to Deron Williams. However,... more
3 Eric Gordon SG 6-5 205 19 Indiana Top 5
One of the most gifted prospects from the high school class of 2007. He can... more
4 O.J. Mayo SG 6-4 195 20 USC Top 5
Mayo is off to a solid start for USC, but scouts are still trying to... more
5 DeAndre Jordan C 7-0 240 19 Texas A&M Top 10
On talent, he's got the makings of a top-five pick. But scouts are concerned enough... more
6 Chase Budinger SG 6-7 190 19 Arizona Top 10
Budinger had a great freshman season at Arizona and has quickly asserted himself as the... more
7 Darrell Arthur PF 6-10 215 20 Kansas Top 10
Shocked just about everyone coming out of the gate and contributing to a very talented... more
8 Brook Lopez C 7-0 245 19 Stanford Lottery
Brook's stellar play toward the end of his freshman season turned a lot of NBA... more
9 John Riek C 7-2 230 18 Prep School Lottery
There is a lot of controversy over Riek, but the consensus from NBA scouts and... more
10 D.J. Augustin PG 5-11 180 20 Texas Lottery
Augustin was one of the two or three best freshmen point guards in the country... more
11 Ty Lawson PG 6-0 190 20 North Carolina Lottery
Lawson didn't put up the best numbers, but some scouts felt he had the most... more
12 Donte Greene SF 6-8 215 19 Syracuse Lottery
Versatile forward is off to a hot start for Syracuse. While he still needs to... more
13 Kosta Koufos C 7-1 250 18 Ohio State Lottery
His stock skyrocketed this summer after he dominated the 18-and-under European Championships. After a strong... more
14 Marreese Speights C 6-10 250 19 Florida Lottery
With Al Horford and Joakim Noah in the NBA, a lot is falling on Speight's... more
15 Nicolas Batum SF 6-8 210 19 France Lottery to mid first round
A few international scouts believe he's the best prospect outside the United States. His dominance... more
16 Kevin Love C 6-9 255 19 UCLA Lottery to mid first round
Love's game is old-school with a flair for the spectacular. He has enough talent to... more
17 DeVon Hardin C 6-11 235 21 California Lottery to mid first round
Hardin was great in draft workouts and is off to a solid senior season. However,... more
18 Roy Hibbert C 7-2 265 21 Georgetown Lottery to mid first round
He's been all over the boards with scouts over the past few years. They love... more
19 Danilo Gallinari SF 6-9 212 19 Italy Lottery to mid first round
Many in Italy feel he's a better long-term prospect than Andrea Bargnani. Right now his... more
20 J. J. Hickson PF 6-9 240 19 NC State Lottery to mid first round
A rising young player who, on paper, looks like a prospect. If he can dominate... more
21 Trent Plaisted C 6-11 245 21 BYU Mid to late first round
After a stellar freshman season and a so-so sophomore campaign, he's really come on as... more
22 Jerryd Bayless PG 6-3 190 19 Arizona Mid to late first round
Arizona is moving him to the point this season which means he'll have to share... more
23 Darren Collison PG 6-1 165 20 UCLA Mid to late first round
Scouts love his speed and his floor leadership. As the NBA turns more up-tempo, Collison's... more
24 Ante Tomic C 7-2 237 20 Croatia Mid to late first round
Tomic is big-time prospect. He has a rare combination of size, skill and athletic ability.... more
25 Chris Douglas-Roberts SG 6-6 195 20 Memphis Late first to early second
Douglas-Roberts is one of the more under-rated players in the country. He should really benefit... more
26 JaVale McGee C 7-0 237 19 Nevada Late first to early second
Scouts are starting to buzz on McGee. He's still a year or two away from... more
27 Hasheem Thabeet C 7-3 265 20 Connecticut Late first to early second
Thabeet was pegged early as a potential late lottery sleeper. His size, athleticism and growing... more
28 Serge Ibaka PF 6-10 220 18 Congo Late first to early second
Ibaka got some hype this summer at an Adidas camp and international scouts will follow... more
29 Davon Jefferson SF 6-8 215 21 USC Late first to early second
Jefferson is an intriguing prospect who is starting to live up to the hype he's... more
30 Andrew Ogilvy C 6-10 250 19 Vanderbilt Late first to early second
An intriguing prospect because of skill and toughness, but his lack of athleticism and ideal... more
31 Eric Maynor PG 6-2 165 20 VA Commonwealth Late first to early second
32 Tyler Hansbrough PF 6-9 225 22 North Carolina Late first to early second
33 Austin Daye SF 6-10 190 19 Gonzaga Late first to early second
34 Earl Clark SF 6-9 200 19 Louisville Late first to early second
35 Brandon Rush SG 6-7 205 22 Kansas Late first to early second
36 Blake Griffin PF 6-10 240 18 Oklahoma Late first to early second
37 Kyle Singler SF 6-9 210 19 Duke Late first to early second
38 Ryan Anderson PF 6-10 225 19 California Late first to early second
39 Wayne Ellington SG 6-5 175 20 North Carolina Late first to early second
40 Scottie Reynolds PG 6-2 195 20 Villanova Late first to early second
41 Nikola Pekovic C 6-11 245 21 Serbia Late first to early second
42 Sherron Collins PG 5-11 200 20 Kansas Late first to early second
43 Victor Claver SF 6-11 217 19 Spain Late first to early second
44 Rudy Mbemba PG 6-0 186 20 Sweden Late first to early second
45 Courtney Lee SG 6-5 200 22 Western Kentucky Late first to early second
46 Richard Hendrix PF 6-8 260 21 Alabama Late first to early second
47 Nathan Jawai C 6-10 270 21 Australia Late first to early second
48 Malik Hairston SG 6-6 200 20 Oregon Late first to early second
49 Tyler Smith SF 6-7 210 21 Tennessee Late first to early second
50 Omri Casspi SF 6-7 206 19 Israel Late first to early second
51 Nick Calathes PG 6-5 185 18 Florida Late first to early second
52 Gerald Henderson SG 6-5 205 20 Duke Late first to early second
53 Paul Harris SG 6-4 220 21 Syracuse Late first to early second
54 Greivis Vasquez SG 6-5 195 20 Maryland Late first to early second
55 Josh Heytvelt PF 6-11 235 21 Gonzaga Late first to early second
56 Tyrese Rice PG 6-1 190 20 Boston College Late first to early second
57 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute SF 6-7 215 21 UCLA Late first to early second
58 Bill Walker SF 6-6 225 20 Kansas State Late first to early second
59 Taj Gibson PF 6-9 210 22 USC Second round to undrafted
60 Raymar Morgan SF 6-7 220 19 Michigan State Second round to undrafted
61 Patrick Patterson PF 6-8 245 18 Kentucky Second round to undrafted
62 Robin Lopez C 7-0 245 19 Stanford Second round to undrafted
63 Joey Dorsey PF 6-9 260 22 Memphis Second round to undrafted
64 Jason Thompson C 6-11 250 21 Rider Second round to undrafted
65 James Anderson SG 6-6 195 18 Oklahoma State Second round to undrafted
66 Daniel Hackett PG 6-5 205 20 USC Second round to undrafted
67 Jamont Gordon SG 6-4 225 20 Mississippi St. Second round to undrafted
68 Matt Bouldin PG 6-5 210 19 Gonzaga Second round to undrafted
69 Jeremy Pargo PG 6-2 220 21 Gonzaga Second round to undrafted
70 Artem Zabelin C 7-2 200 19 Russia Second round to undrafted
71 Brandon Costner PF 6-9 230 20 NC State Second round to undrafted
72 Gani Lawal PF 6-9 220 18 Georgia Tech Second round to undrafted
73 Nemanja Aleksandrov F 6-10 225 20 Serbia Second round to undrafted
74 Alexy Shved SF 6-7 170 19 Russia Second round to undrafted
75 A.J. Price PG 6-2 190 21 Connecticut Second round to undrafted
76 James Harden SG 6-5 210 18 Arizona State Second round to undrafted
77 Goran Dragic PG 6-4 180 21 Slovenia Second round to undrafted.
78 Jordan Hill PF 6-11 215 20 Arizona Second round to undrafted
79 Mario Chalmers PG 6-2 170 21 Kansas Second round to undrafted
80 Dominic James PG 6-0 175 21 Marquette Second round to undrafted
81 Anthony Randolph SF 6-10 210 18 LSU Second round to undrafted
82 Anton Ponkrashov PG 6-8 214 21 Russia Second round to undrafted
83 Johnny Flynn PG 6-0 175 18 Syracuse Second round to undrafted
84 Terence Williams SG 6-6 210 20 Louisville Second round to undrafted
85 D.J. White PF 6-9 240 21 Indiana Second round to undrafted
86 Stanley Robinson SF 6-9 215 19 Connecticut Second round to undrafted
87 Semih Erden C 7-1 240 21 Turkey Second round to undrafted
88 Kyle Weaver SG 6-6 185 21 Washington State Second round to undrafted
89 Nolan Smith SG 6-4 185 19 Duke Second round to undrafted
90 Marcelus Kemp SG 6-5 210 23 Nevada Second round to undrafted
91 Chris Lofton SG 6-2 197 21 Tennessee Second round to undrafted
92 Milenko Tepic SG 6-8 200 20 Serbia Second round to undrafted
93 Bo McCalebb PG 6-0 180 22 New Orleans Second round to undrafted
94 Corey Fisher PG 6-1 205 19 Villanova Second round to undrafted
95 Josh Shipp SG 6-5 207 21 UCLA Second round to undrafted.
96 Jawann McClellan SG 6-5 225 22 Arizona Second round to undrafted
97 Robert Dozier SF 6-9 215 22 Memphis Second round to undrafted
98 Lance Thomas PF 6-8 200 19 Duke Second round to undrafted
99 Mantas Kalnietis PG 6-5 194 21 Lithuania Second round to undrafted
100 Drew Neitzel PG 6-0 180 22 Michigan State Second round to undrafted

It shouldn't be surprising that the people who bought into the Biyombo stupidity would also be all over Patric Young. The guy has no offensive game and has yet to show an ability to play for an extended time without getting in foul trouble, but somehow he gets pegged as having lottery potential.

Rodney Williams at #42? Really? How long does a guy have to be in college before people actually start considering what a player has done in college?

But hey, Chad was all over Kenneth Faried this past year for playing hard and rebounding in the Ohio Valley. He must have seen Minnesota while slurping Williams and actually caught the best NBA prospect at Minnesota in Trevor Mbakwe. He is a bigger, stronger, and more athletic Faried, so if Faried finished was #17 then Mbakwe must be pretty high. Oh look, #74... behind Fab Melo. Wonderful.

If Tony Mitchell plays in the Sun Belt as a highly sought after Big Twelve recruit and starts beating up overmatched opponents, I think the stupid are going to be all over him.

By next June, I have five names who will be in the top 100:

C.J. Wilcox, Washington

Kevin Foster, Santa Clara

Jae Crowder, Marquette

Michael Glover, Iona

Bernard James, Florida State - Hey, he is younger than Ngombo! Plus, he has an NBA-ready body to go with a Taj Gibson game.

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I 100% agree with you on

I 100% agree with you on Crowder, he was one of the most underrated guys in the country last year and has a real nice skill set for a 3/4. Kind of plays like former Marquette star Lazar Hayward but with a little more athleticism. He should definitely be drafted, but probably as a second rounder.

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Juco guys rarely get

Juco guys rarely get appreciated for what they do in their first year. Both Ratliffe and Crowder were really good, but have no buzz. Maybe Nurideen Lindsay will be the exception.

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Marquette gets real lucky

Marquette gets real lucky with JUCO guys. Jimmy Butler, Crowder, and DJO were all JUCO.

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I am a little surprised that

I am a little surprised that Darius Miller from Kentucky isn't in the top 150. His three point shooting has improved greatly and he is a solid defender. Has a sweet turnaround shot that he consistently makes in the 7-9 ft range.

He came on strong during the end of the regular season, played great in the SEC tournament and played alright in the NCAA tourney. The only thing that will hurt him this year is being overlooked with the freshman coming in + Jones and Lamb, which may explain why he isn't in the top 150 for the 2012 list. Regardless, I think he will have a great senior year.

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WTF....I just realized they

WTF....I just realized they have Durand Scott at like 138. This gu ywas listed as 2012 lottery pick earlier this year. I do agree though that Plumlee is FAR too high. Never really saw the potential there. Overrated as ill get.

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Durand Scott has good

Durand Scott has good potential, I really like him, but we will have to see how he develops under his new coach.

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Andre Dawkins is not in the

Andre Dawkins is not in the top 150? This guy played really well for Duke late in the season and he is very young. IMO, 2 guys that should transfer are Dawkins and McDonald from UNC. They will be odd-man out with the arrival of Rivers and Hairston. If Clemson has a good year, Jennings will move up significantly. He is really skilled, but doesnt have a killer mentality yet.

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