How could can CJ McCollum be? Where do you see him going in the draft? Who does he compare to, NBA or otherwise? Who do you think his best fit would be draft wise?
I'm a mavs fan and I'm really hoping if he is still on the board we take him. I dont think he'll be quite as good as Damian Lillard, but I'm hoping he is as underrated, and come in and contribute right away. He is such an exciting player to watch. I think he will be a starter in this league, and definitely one of the better players taken from this draft.
CJ will not last to 13, he tested out very well athletically on a foot and leg thats probably not even at full strength yet. He is not as athletic as Lillard, but if his shooting remains pure, he can be just as good of an NBA player.
I think he'll be basically the same player as Randy Foye and that's really not too bad. Excelent shooter, good teammate, but not enough size or athleticism to thrive as a two and not enough PG skill to be a PG. I good rotation player on a good team.
I know that might not be a popular notion, but I think its' the right one.
He is a better shooter and ball handler then Randy Foye.
How do you know that? How much Lehigh did you watch? I'll admit that i didn't watch very much. But lets look at the facts-
I know his stats show that he can really shoot it, but in the games he played against real competition he didn't shoot especially well. And Randy Foye's a darn good shooter. He set a team record for threes made by a Jazzman last yr if I'm not mistaken, so it's not like I'm predicting that he'll just be an average shooter.
I think it's pretty difficult to grade a guys ball handling and PG skills when they're playing the lesser competition that CJ was. His lack of athleticism makes me doubt he'll ever be able to really play PG (which Foye has also never really been able to do).
Lastly, I think one thing we can see year after year is that GM's are constantly overcorrecting based on recent data. Last year, Lillard at 6 was a steal. He clearly has more value than most of the guys taken ahead of him. GM's don't want to make the same mistake twice so this time they're going to look at the the scoring PG's from small schools. Although past data shows that's not usually a good idea, last year it worked, so they need to look at it. It's the same reason I can't see Vander Blue going afer the first round. Wesley Matthews should have been drafted, Jimmy Butler went about 20 picks too late... GM's don't want to make that mistake again.
I hope the Jazz don't take him.
CJ is an above average athlete. I can see that in his game, and the athletic numbers from the combine proves it too. Foye is an average ball handler in my opinion, doesn't have the one on one break you down, craftyness and hesitation dribble that CJ has. Randy comes off to me as kinda straight forward and somewhat rigid in his overall game.
CJ is way better shooter off the dribble as well, while Foye is more suited for spot up set shots.I would say McCollum compares well between a mix of Steph and Lillard. I have no of proof, but I was also in the overwhelmingly comparison that Randy Foye would likely be a Mike James type of offensive minded combo guard.
Randy Foye is a really good NBA 3 pt shooter and I don't know if I'd say right now that McCollum will be a better 3 pt shooter than Foye. I do see McCollum as being a better scorer inside the ark than Foye is. IMO McCollum has a better middle game and knows how to use his body better when finishing. Overall, I think McCollum has a better, more well-rounded offensive game than Foye and I would be surprised if McCollum ended up being a career 40% FG guy like Foye is.
He had a solid showing at the combine with legit measurements and good test results. I would be shocked if he slipped past Minnesota at 9. Would love to see him and Rubio playing together.
In the past I compared CJ McCollum to a mix between Juan Dixon and Randy Foye. A undersized shooting guard who has good shooting skills, good scoring skills, and solid playmaking skills. But who also just has a average to decent feel for how to play the point guard position at a high level
Any word on workouts for all these draftese? It will be intereting to see how some of these guys measure up against each other in the work outs. I would particularly like to see Larkin go up against Schroder . I'd love to see/hear about Giannis and how he does in any workouts. Adams did well at the combine and seeing how he does against some of the other 5's will be fun/interesting.
This guy is a really interesting prospect. I laughed when this website compared him to Steph, but his highlights does show some of that "offensive prodigy" of Steph. He reminds me of a cross between a less explosive Iverson and Marshon Brooks. Am I completely off on that??
You have to remember Randy Foye had a a major knee surgery when he was with the timberwolves, he was never the same and lost quite a bit of his quick first step when he was with Villanova. I think Brandon Knight makes a good comparison for CJ McCollum also.
As a Pistons fan, I don't think Knight has that great of a shooting stroke in comparison to McCollum.
Something about these smart players makes me think they don't have much of an issue getting PG skills. Look at Steph he had the same concerns coming out but now he can play on or off the ball. CJ is in the same ball park as steph. He may not be exactly what Curry is but he probably will end up really close.
I also do not trust McCollum's passing ability, but the reason why I don't believe he is a good passer, is because of how many assist he averaged while at Lehigh. His senior season he averaged 2.9 assists. Even Lillard and Steph Curry averaged about 4 or more assists at Weber State and Davidson respectively. I know McCollum did not have that great of teammates at Lehigh, and he was mainly called upon to score, but Lillard and Curry had the same case yet they both averaged at least 4 or more assists per game, while McCollum could only average a measly 2.9. That scares me, and makes me wonder if he can play the point full-time. I know he was hurt most of his senior season, but even his junior year he could only manage 3.5, and his sophomore year he only managed 2.1 So he improved immensely in the assist column between his sophomore and junior year, but then for the small amount of games he was available his senior season he decreased back to below 3 assists per game. He hasn't played any games since that injury, so lack of play for 3 or 4 months, and then the small amount of assists he averaged while at Lehigh, makes me question his passing ability.
Lillard and Curry's assist numbers at Davidson and Weber State were:
Curry Junior at Davidson 5.6 assists Sophomore 2.9 and Freshman 2.8
Lillard Senior at Weber State: 4.0, Junior 3.7 Sophomore 3.6 and Freshman 2.9
Both Lillard and Curry eclipsed McCollum's assist mark within their first two years at their respective small schools. It took McCollum 4 season to get to 2.9, and every season he went back and forth. He never did steadily improve like Lillard did, yet they both went to small schools and all 3 were mainly called upon to score. So that makes me question his consistency as a point guard, and makes me believe he is more of a combo guard who will play more off the ball than the point. For that reason I compare him to Monte Ellis.
He only played something like 10 games his senior season. Not saying he would of racked up a whole lot more assists through out the season, but you cant judge his passing ability on a shortened senior year