[fliptonnParticipant]

 hypothetically, if the cavs were to get two top five picks (the one and the five) who should they choose? should they go for immediate help or future help? a point/big combo like irving and sullinger or play off potential with something like jones and barnes. obviously they have to consider derrick williams and enes kanter as well. what do you guys think?

[delfamParticipant]

 I think they would go Irving and then a wing(Barnes,Jones,Jones). Hickson and Varejao are good enough for them to get into the playoffs, but their backcourt is not.

[HitsterParticipant]

I think it all depends where the picks end up but a lot of it has to be best player available as a team that has only won 12 games this year needs some injection of talent. I’d certainly assume they may look to take two fairly different players and not two bigs or two backcourters etc. An SF would seem likely and I’d certainly hope they would take one and then the other must be BPA.

If they get Irving they may have to move Sessions as Davis is unlikely to be moved with his big deal and he could mentor Irving for a couple of years. I’d be happy if they considered a frontcourter as Jamieson expires next summer and Varejao is out injured so another body could be fitted into the roster alongside Samuels, Hickson etc.

Assuming they will get one of Kanter, Barnes, Williams, Sullinger,Irving, Jones with their top pick then for the 2nd pick via the Clippers I’d be tempted to look at say Jimmer Fredette or even Jan Vesley. But with it being quite an open draft then the players could shuffle around quite a bit.

 

[Tha_PrinceParticipant]

If David Kahn was their GM he’d pick Irving & Jimmer lol

But in all seriousness I think they should take Irving cause of their weak backcourt & Barnes, watching those two players grow together could be awesome to watch. 

[fliptonnParticipant]

 how much do they effect the process? the cavs seem surprisingly commited to davis at the 1 even though kyrie really seems like the guy to turn the franchise around. and jamison still has another year on his contract so do you draft around him? and if you do is it a 3 or a 4? could they look to someone like alec burks with the second pick or stick with anthony parker untill christian eyenga meets his potential? can you afford to draft for depth?

[HitsterParticipant]

Davis is likely to be there at least a year until he hits expiring contract value in 2012-13, Jamieson will have expiring contract value next season but to find a taker for his big salary may be difficult so I wonder if they may look at a buyout if there happened to be a logjam in the frontcourt. Jamieson could probably get himself a nice deal on a contender and might accept a lesser buyout as he is pushing 35 years old now and so his window is closing and he has made over $120 million in career salaries so like Mike Bibby, money may not be a major factor.

If Jamieson could get around MLE for a couple of years, he might accept a buyout of say $7 to $8million.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Wouldn’t it be the one and the 4? I mean, the Cavs have the worst record in the league, so they can only go as low as 4. Also, the Clippers will not just move up to 5 magically, as their are definitely 5 teams before them. So, the best case scenario if the Cavs do not win the lotto would be the Clippers winning and than Cleveland picking 4. Sorry to burst your bubble, but they are probably a lot more likely to have the 4 and the 8, but I will play along with the 1 and 4. We would have to have the Clippers win the lottery, plus I guess you would say that the next two teams would be generally low ranked teams, like say Sacramento at 2 and Minnesota at 3, finally moving up in the lottery world.

The Cavs could go a lot of different directions with that first pick, but at this point I think Kyrie Irving would be a safe assumption. Yes, he was hurt and played "too few games", but I think that he has the potential to be a fantastic floor leader and is maybe closest to being a sure thing in this draft. He has a high basketball IQ, great attitude and appeared to be on his way to becoming an All-American until getting hurt. He is not the quickest or most athletic PG, but I still feel like he holds his own and is a star in the making. After Kyrie, you would probably go after a legit forward or big man. My draft board would probably have Harrison Barnes, Jared Sullinger, Enes Kanter, Perry Jones and Derrick Williams in that order. Even some of the European prospects could enter into this discussion, with Valanciunas blossoming into a potential beast in the middle, Vesely displaying very nice athleticism/size as a potential wing and Motiejunas having a great skill set to provide match-up problems for players his size.

I know that the Cavs do indeed have a number of PG’s, but Ramon Sessions has yet to prove he is adequate at running a team. He has been on some bad teams, but he is not the ideal starter that Kyrie Irving would be. Kyrie and Sessions could also play together at times, it would be a better version of he and Boobie, who is more of a small 2. Baron of course would still be in the discussion, but I have a feeling he is not beyond a buy out. The Cavs are hurting at a number of positions, but the wing seems like a place they could use a definite upgrade. They are dying without Verajao, but they do actually have some decent post prospects in JJ Hickson and Samardo Samuels. However, since LeBron left, they have been without a real 3 man. I do not take drafting Barnes as being a need pick, as I think he might indeed be the best talent available. I think he and Irving would work incredibly well together despite the college rivalry and that they would provide a great deal of hope for Cavs fans. So, ideally, if I were the Cavs, my picks at 1 and 4 would be Irving and Barnes. If Barnes were unavailable, my list would be similar to what I had written above in order, which would be Sullinger (hometown favorite and major upgrade), Kanter (might even be above Sullinger, plus I think he and Anderson playing together would be nasty), Perry Jones (I would not call him a wing, but I think he could maybe guard them and cause match-up problems there), Derrick Williams (Again, he might be able to play on the wing, and would certainly be an upgrade their) and Jonas Valanciunas (Reminding some of Ilgauskas, who worked out pretty well for Cleveland all things considered. He may not have Z’s mid range game/is not 7’3, but he has good size and athleticism, plus I have yet to hear of any injury concerns.)

[HitsterParticipant]

The Cavs first pick should be no worse than 4th unless they catch the T-Wolves before the end of the season. Irving and Barnes would probably be Chris Grant’s wish picks but they do fill two needs especially if Barnes can play some SG as I assume Parker will probably not return.

[CardiacKidParticipant]

Irving/Sullinger could turn into Paul/West from ’08 with Scott as coach

Irving/Barnes could be Westbrook/Durant for CLE to build around with another potential top 5 pick coming next year and getting a true Center like Drummond or a 2 guard of lucky like Rivers

Irving is a must then they can go for a go to scorer on the perimeter or a potential all star PF

[JoeWolf1]

 I think their draft board should look like this

1. Kyrie Irving – One of the few top level talents in this draft and with Mo Williams gone the path is cleared for him to play big minutes as a rookie and develop.

2. Harrison Barnes – I think Barnes is the real deal and although he is a bit dependant on his jumper now, he has the size and body to develop a second option as a slasher.  I think he’s a Danny Granger like player who would be a good first option and part of a good young Hickson, Barnes forward combo.

3. Enes Kanter – I think for Cleveland you have to bypass Williams and Jone and go with Kanter.  If Cleveland moves Jamison then I think Williams would be a better choice, but as of now he’s still a Cav and drafting Jones or Williams would just crowd the PF position( I don’t think either one is and NBA 3).  Kanter would give them the most talented young post player who is capable of playing minutes at the 5 right off the bat.

[JoeWolf1]

DP

[fliptonnParticipant]

 if they lose the lotto and get the 3rd or 4th and kyrie isnt there, who do they go with? i think barnes/jones iii would be a great core to build around, but if you can get sullinger or kanter can you pass it up?

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

I would go PG-C combo (Irving then follow it up with selecting Kanter). The Cavs actually has good depth at PF with Jamison, Hickson and Samuels.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Fact is they probally wont get Irving because the lottery will screw them, and they wontb get Barnes because the Clippers are picking like 7th or 8th. I think they will pick at 2 or 3 and 7 or 8. They should select Sullinger and T. Jones then trade Hickson for a capable SF. Plenty of teams wouldlove to trade for JJ.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Not T.Jones Alec Burks.

[RafterParticipant]

As a Cavs fan, i’m excited about the upcoming draft. The Cavaliers will be big players on draft day thanks to that league leading trade exception they have, they could really make a great move with that exception. If the Cavs land a 4th pick or higher in the lottery, they gotta take Irving, I’m not convinced in Baron anymore and i’d want Baron as far away from Irving as possible, an Irving and Sessions combo would be great, it eases the pressure from the rookie to have a solid backup.

I expect the Clippers pick to be around 6-10, i’m happy with the bigman situation for now and we should look to take a wing player which we desperately need, Barnes springs to mind.

If luck happens and the Cavs somehow get two top 5 picks, then Irving and Williams would be my picks. But i really doubt the Cavs would get two top 5 picks.

Either way, the Cavs will get two building blocks which is the best news i’ve heard all season, the Cavs should follow the Thunder’s example and build through the draft. Whether there will be another Kevin Durant prospect floating around in the next drafts is another question.

 

 

[PlatypusParticipant]

 Irving and Williams or Barnes

[khaled_a_dParticipant]

 I don’t know who are they gonna pick

but I do know they will pick the best available player and they wont think about the team need at all,they wont care whether he is playing in Davis/Varejao or Hickson position

this team is tanking b/c they want to build through the draft,they probably dont think about the playoffs next year at all,and the reason they have commited for Baron is the pick,so whateve the BPA position,they are gonna select him

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