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  • #50057
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9390303/los-angeles-clippers-believe-land-doc-rivers-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-according-sources

    Basically, it’s a trade centered around Garnet/Pierce/Doc Rivers for Bledsoe/Jordan/Butlers expiring deal and probably sprinkled with cash, fillers, and draft picks.

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  • #797784
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    SubZero
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    Well I don’t really know what to say about the trade itself, if Pierce was to go anywhere outside of Boston I would think it’s the Clippers. He’d be going home to LA without having to play for the Lakers, who is probably one of the last teams he’d play for, if not the last.

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  • #797851
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    Well I don’t really know what to say about the trade itself, if Pierce was to go anywhere outside of Boston I would think it’s the Clippers. He’d be going home to LA without having to play for the Lakers, who is probably one of the last teams he’d play for, if not the last.

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  • #797796
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    Good trade for both teams and great for the league. I hope it works out!

    The Grizzlies rivalry with the Clippers will get even more intense.

    The C’s rebuild around Rondo, Jordan, Jeff Green, Bledsoe, and Avery Bradley.

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  • #797863
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    Good trade for both teams and great for the league. I hope it works out!

    The Grizzlies rivalry with the Clippers will get even more intense.

    The C’s rebuild around Rondo, Jordan, Jeff Green, Bledsoe, and Avery Bradley.

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  • #797792
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    I think this is the best for all parties involve. KG and Pierce get to play for a championship contender in their final years. With Doc and chris Paul running that team the clippers would be an automatic favorite. If the Clippers are ever going to make a series run at the title this is their chance. And the celtics get to re-built with some good young pieces.

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  • #797859
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    I think this is the best for all parties involve. KG and Pierce get to play for a championship contender in their final years. With Doc and chris Paul running that team the clippers would be an automatic favorite. If the Clippers are ever going to make a series run at the title this is their chance. And the celtics get to re-built with some good young pieces.

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  • #797802
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    andyV17
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    I don’t like it for the clippers, I’m not sure why team’s get so impatient. If I were the clips I would let my young core continue to grow.

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    • #797812
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      jjbutler73
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      Who is their “young core”????? They have few players under contract and they aren’t young.

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      • #797820
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        jjbutler73
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        7 players, average age 30. Throw out retiring Grant Hill, average 28.3. Throw out Willie, average 27.4. It’s not old at that point, but it’s 5 players Bledsoe would be gone next year anyways. No young core to keep.

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        • #797868
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          Well I’m talking about Jordan and Blake I should have said young front court, I don’t know if it is smart to give up a talented young big for for two past their prime guys.

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        • #797935
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          andyV17
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          Well I’m talking about Jordan and Blake I should have said young front court, I don’t know if it is smart to give up a talented young big for for two past their prime guys.

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      • #797887
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        jjbutler73
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        7 players, average age 30. Throw out retiring Grant Hill, average 28.3. Throw out Willie, average 27.4. It’s not old at that point, but it’s 5 players Bledsoe would be gone next year anyways. No young core to keep.

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    • #797879
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      jjbutler73
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      Who is their “young core”????? They have few players under contract and they aren’t young.

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  • #797869
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    andyV17
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    I don’t like it for the clippers, I’m not sure why team’s get so impatient. If I were the clips I would let my young core continue to grow.

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  • #797818
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    Mad Max
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    Damn Doc Rivers coming out of retirement? lol

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  • #797885
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    Mad Max
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    Damn Doc Rivers coming out of retirement? lol

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  • #797828
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    myers3425
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    I wouldn’t trade Bledsoe until CP3 is resigned. Say they make this trade and CP3 decides he would rather go play with Howard or anywhere else. I think they just need to hold off on any trade involving Bledsoe until CP3 name is signed on the dotted line because if he does leave Bledsoe is not a bad replacement for him.

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    • #797856
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      I assume the clippers would only consider any deal involving Bledsoe after speaking with Paul first. They are willing to pull deals with the sole purpose of pleasing Paul.

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    • #797924
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      KHAM83
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      I assume the clippers would only consider any deal involving Bledsoe after speaking with Paul first. They are willing to pull deals with the sole purpose of pleasing Paul.

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  • #797895
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    I wouldn’t trade Bledsoe until CP3 is resigned. Say they make this trade and CP3 decides he would rather go play with Howard or anywhere else. I think they just need to hold off on any trade involving Bledsoe until CP3 name is signed on the dotted line because if he does leave Bledsoe is not a bad replacement for him.

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  • #797826
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    AmiableBaller34
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    As a Celtic fan, I don’t understand the logic behind this trade. There is no way DeAndre and Rondo can play together with that kind of free throw percentage. If they do get Bledsoe, than do they plan on moving Rondo/Bradly?

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  • #797893
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    AmiableBaller34
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    As a Celtic fan, I don’t understand the logic behind this trade. There is no way DeAndre and Rondo can play together with that kind of free throw percentage. If they do get Bledsoe, than do they plan on moving Rondo/Bradly?

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  • #797862
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    Cynthia
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    I can understand DeAndre, but not Bledsoe. Having Rondo, Bledsoe, and Bradley seems like a massive logjam.

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  • #797930
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    Cynthia
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    I can understand DeAndre, but not Bledsoe. Having Rondo, Bledsoe, and Bradley seems like a massive logjam.

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  • #797870
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    fcb206
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    I see this trade happening only contingent on these first two events:
    1. Clippers re sign Paul
    2. Sign and trade of Griffin and Bledsoe to Lakers for Howard (newest reports are clippers wont include Bledsoe in Celtics deal because they need him to land Howard in this deal)
    3. Then the deal with the Celtics becomes a trade of Jordan, Butler’s expiring deal, draft picks and cash for KG and right to negotiate with Rivers. Then, Celts buy out Pierce’s deal for $5 million and he signs with the clippers. Clippers have Paul, Garnett, Pierce, Howard plus cap space to sign another player.

    I only see the Celtics taking this deal if they want to do a complete rebuild, which I think is a good idea. Garnett and Pierce cant carry a team anymore, and with this deal, clearly the clippers are bringing Garnett and Pierce in as secondary complimentary pieces to Paul and Howard.

    Its like this: Garnett and Pierce are worth more to the clips as supporting cast players on a title contender than they are as stars to the Celtics on a fringe playoff team. If you look at the deal for that angle, its best for everybody. Sure, Garnett and Pierce are hall of famers, but at this point in their careers they cant function as stars on a contending team, but the celtics are forced to pay them as such. In this deal, the Celtics extract value out of two players who are no longer worth the money they are paid and neither of which will play much longer, while the clips get two battle tested veterans on short run deals to compliment Paul/Howard. A legit C, tons of cap room, additional cap relief and draft picks in perpetuity for two past their prime players weighing retirement? That’s a huge haul.

    graceful transitions from one generation of stars to the other is how dynasties are maintained. Maybe trading Garnett and Pierce for basically intangible assets (cap room, future players in the form of picks, the likelihood of a high lottery pick next year in a loaded draft) seems like a bad deal on paper, but what is their alternative? Play Garnett and Pierce into the ground, fighting for a playoff spot for two more years at max, then losing them to retirement and being forced to rebuild again anyway, two year later? if I was Ainge I would take the deal without Bledsoe all day. Fleece the clips for as many picks as possible. Suck it up through a terrible season next year, and retool with a chance at the wiggins sweepstakes, tons of cap room, and whichever players they decide to keep out of Rondo/Bradley/Jordan/Green/Sullinger.

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  • #797937
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    fcb206
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    I see this trade happening only contingent on these first two events:
    1. Clippers re sign Paul
    2. Sign and trade of Griffin and Bledsoe to Lakers for Howard (newest reports are clippers wont include Bledsoe in Celtics deal because they need him to land Howard in this deal)
    3. Then the deal with the Celtics becomes a trade of Jordan, Butler’s expiring deal, draft picks and cash for KG and right to negotiate with Rivers. Then, Celts buy out Pierce’s deal for $5 million and he signs with the clippers. Clippers have Paul, Garnett, Pierce, Howard plus cap space to sign another player.

    I only see the Celtics taking this deal if they want to do a complete rebuild, which I think is a good idea. Garnett and Pierce cant carry a team anymore, and with this deal, clearly the clippers are bringing Garnett and Pierce in as secondary complimentary pieces to Paul and Howard.

    Its like this: Garnett and Pierce are worth more to the clips as supporting cast players on a title contender than they are as stars to the Celtics on a fringe playoff team. If you look at the deal for that angle, its best for everybody. Sure, Garnett and Pierce are hall of famers, but at this point in their careers they cant function as stars on a contending team, but the celtics are forced to pay them as such. In this deal, the Celtics extract value out of two players who are no longer worth the money they are paid and neither of which will play much longer, while the clips get two battle tested veterans on short run deals to compliment Paul/Howard. A legit C, tons of cap room, additional cap relief and draft picks in perpetuity for two past their prime players weighing retirement? That’s a huge haul.

    graceful transitions from one generation of stars to the other is how dynasties are maintained. Maybe trading Garnett and Pierce for basically intangible assets (cap room, future players in the form of picks, the likelihood of a high lottery pick next year in a loaded draft) seems like a bad deal on paper, but what is their alternative? Play Garnett and Pierce into the ground, fighting for a playoff spot for two more years at max, then losing them to retirement and being forced to rebuild again anyway, two year later? if I was Ainge I would take the deal without Bledsoe all day. Fleece the clips for as many picks as possible. Suck it up through a terrible season next year, and retool with a chance at the wiggins sweepstakes, tons of cap room, and whichever players they decide to keep out of Rondo/Bradley/Jordan/Green/Sullinger.

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  • #797955
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    KreedOne
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    Id trade bledsoe to orlando for their #2 pick and a backup 3 like tobias harris

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  • #797888
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    KreedOne
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    Id trade bledsoe to orlando for their #2 pick and a backup 3 like tobias harris

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    • #798347
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      King Calucha
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      Bledsoe is not THAT good to get both.

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    • #798413
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      King Calucha
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      Bledsoe is not THAT good to get both.

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  • #797993
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    For the Clippers and Celtics. The one subplot is Rondo. None of those players the Celtics are getting or have that’s a franchise player, they are all either good or great pieces. Rondo is in his prime and I feel he is the best assist man in the league and the best pure point guard in the league behind Paul and maybe Tony Parker. They could be tremendous defensively and on the boards with that core, but if they get into a shoot out they won’t make it. If the Celtics are in legitimate rebuild mode where could he fit? OKC has been the most popular destination except Ainge wants Westbrook in return, but if they could pull a package would it be too much financially? They wouldn’t amnesty Perkins because Rondo loves him. Could Westbrook and Rondo coexist? I don’t know. If the Lakers keep Howard could they be a candidate financially? Pau for Rondo doesn’t seem enticing if I’m the Celtics. He’d fit with the Knicks, except they don’t have many assets. After that the contending teams have point guards. Keeping him and “hoping it works” seems like a good way to piss off Rondo.

    You know, unless being “the guy” pushes him to the next level.

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  • #797925
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    For the Clippers and Celtics. The one subplot is Rondo. None of those players the Celtics are getting or have that’s a franchise player, they are all either good or great pieces. Rondo is in his prime and I feel he is the best assist man in the league and the best pure point guard in the league behind Paul and maybe Tony Parker. They could be tremendous defensively and on the boards with that core, but if they get into a shoot out they won’t make it. If the Celtics are in legitimate rebuild mode where could he fit? OKC has been the most popular destination except Ainge wants Westbrook in return, but if they could pull a package would it be too much financially? They wouldn’t amnesty Perkins because Rondo loves him. Could Westbrook and Rondo coexist? I don’t know. If the Lakers keep Howard could they be a candidate financially? Pau for Rondo doesn’t seem enticing if I’m the Celtics. He’d fit with the Knicks, except they don’t have many assets. After that the contending teams have point guards. Keeping him and “hoping it works” seems like a good way to piss off Rondo.

    You know, unless being “the guy” pushes him to the next level.

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  • #798245
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    imahustla1
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    WOW if this happens R.I.P LOB CITY

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    imahustla1
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    WOW if this happens R.I.P LOB CITY

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