[Snatalini247Participant]

when are other mock draft sites going to start posting andre drummond at the top of their mock draft boards? as usual this sites ahead of the game, anthony davis is a great prospect but i mean we see supposed great power forward prospects come out almost every other year, and we havent really had any great center prospects since dwight howard, other than maybe greg oden (dont know if he should count anymore at this point), i still think id take a dwight howard/amare stoudemire hybrid over one with the skills of chris bosh/marcus camby still a toss up though what are your guys thoughts davis or drummond?

[WizardofOzParticipant]

 Maybe it’s just me, but I’d take Andre Drummond over Anthony Davis. By no means is it disrespect towards Anthony Davis because I certainly see him being able to anchor a team’s defense given his freakish physical tools along with his phenomenal basketball IQ, but his offensive game is still so raw for a big man that it will take some time to develop. It depends on need, but if your team is in need of a player that can create on the inside and/or outside, there are a few prospects who can fulfill that need while also having the potential to be a terrific two-way player (i.e. Andre Drummond and Harrison Barnes). 

It’s a legitimate argument that Anthony Davis playing with Marquis Teague, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Terrence Jones, Doron Lamb, and Darius Miller restricts him a bit offensively, but at the same time it’s possible he is what he is and that’s a clean up guy. I like how he’s got terrific point guard hands being able to catch bad passes, but I haven’t seen this court vision of his when he played point guard prior to his growth spurt. Heck, even Andre Drummond has shown that elite court vision and passing from time-to-time while being in a similar environment like Anthony Davis playing behind the likes of Jeremy Lamb, Shabazz Napier and Ryan Boatwright. For all of Drummond’s questionable or lack thereof of a motor, his skillset, talent and potential is too much to give up. I haven’t seen a big man prospect with this sort of advanced footwork, ball-handling, court vision and the ability to face up or play with his back-to-the-basket making his shots at a extremely high-level at the age of 18. I think having a coach lighting a fire under his butt could force him to play with that intensity like Anthony Davis, but one things for sure, his skill level is miles beyond Anthony Davis at this point. I think it’s key that Drummond lands on a team that has a coach that demands he players to play with a lot of effort. If this happens, it’s highly possible that ifDrummond buying into what the coach demands, he could become a really, really dangerous player

[Mr. 19134Participant]

ANTHONY DAVIS.

I am too in love with Drummonds potential and skill set but Perry Jones is a similar freak of nature on the perimeter who shouldn’t go number one just based on his potential over Davis. Anthony Davis just dominated Tenn. today the same team that Drummond and UConn lost too.  UConn is losing a lot of games and Drummonds "potential" dominance has been no where to be found.  For all his physical gifts he isn’t helping them win or even score when nobody in college can come close to his level of strength, height, and athleticism.  His numbers are very reminiscent of Deandre Jordans freshman year.

Anthony Davis had another fantastic game tonight scoring 18 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, and 7 blocks.  He was 6-7 from the field and 6-7 from the line.  He’s on pace to easily break Shaq’s SEC single season block record and leads his team in scoring, rebounding, and blocked shots, and his team has only lost once.  

Davis’ skill level right now is clearly miles ahead of Drummond.  He’s not a hustle player he’s a dominant force on both ends.  People like Centers because they can score so efficient, rebound, and block shots.  Davis does all this way better then Drummond and not only are they the same age but Davis just started playing in the post as opposed to Drummond who has his whole life.  Davis clearly is the quicker learner and will adapt to the NBA quicker also.  

However the issue is that Davis is a Forward and Drummond is a Center.  So just based on position Drummond could possibly go one.  But right now it’s not as close as you think is sources are correct.  All of ESPN’s scouts say GM’s have Davis ahead of Drummond on their big board and their’s a reason why this is the only site that has Drummond going over Davis.

[alex23Participant]

 andre and heres why, if he fullfills even 80 percent his potential gms will kill themselves becuz hed be so dominant , and like the other guy said andre drummond is one of those centers that come every 5 years and mayb more now

[tuck243Participant]

If Andre is who yall say he is then why is UCONN on the bubble right now?? Its obvious Jeremy Lamb is the best wing player in college right now but is Andre really the best Big Man??? I mean when he had his breakout game people was raving about him… Now with all these loses nobody is saying ish…  Dude has been playing inconsistent all season long…  I honestly think taking him over Davis is about the dumbest idea ever at this point…  His motor is very questionable and he is starting to remind me of Brendan Haywood in College…   

[tbp82Participant]

I wouldn’t call him Brendan Haywood but I have to agree with the above post. I just don’t see it with Drummond never have didn’t see it from what I’ve seen from him in high school haven’t seen it in college. I’ll admit that I haven’t seen Drummond live and someone who knows way more about nba draft prospects than I do told me that seeing Drummond live makes a differance.

Also reading a lot of the Anthony Davis threads I find it interesting how some say Davis is not a Center then in the same post compare him to Marcus Camby ( http://www.nba.com/playerfile/marcus_camby/ ) who last time I checked was a Center and has played that position since being traded from the Raptors. Also, the comparison here is a cross between Camby/Bosh well Chris Bosh started at Center his rookie season in Toronto ( http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1030926/index.htm ).

As far as Andre Drummond is concerned and the whole pick him because he’s a Center argument. Drummond isn’t the typical low post throw it into Shaq and let him go score big man. His comparison on this site is Amare Stoudemire and Amare has played a lot of Center in his career but he’s played more Power Forward in his career than the Anthony Davis comparison of Marcus Camby.

I just don’t understand what more Anthony Davis can do. He’s got height, length, potential, dominate defensively he’s playing well in the SEC, he showed toughness in the LSU game, he’s making his free throws now, his 15-18 foot jumper looks good. The only negative you can have about the guy is that he is slim.

My question for the few Anthony Davis critics out there at this point is you pass on this guy at #1 just because he’s skinny?

[lalailaParticipant]

you all saying this site’s mock is ahead of others but actually it’s not at all..

not only people saying Davis is the top pick but some has it locked..Chad Ford said Anthony is in his own class and Drummond Barnes Perry Mike are in tier 2..

today i listened Givony’s podcast and there was the same the wasn’t even a question who is #1 he just discussed who is leading for second spot..

almost an identical situation in one CBS tv show..

 

with that being said i still am the big fan of Drummond and would like to draft him first cause i would love so much to see him realizing his upside but will he?there is a big question, so the reality is that Anthony Davis is the number one pick in the draft by far, TODAY

[JoeWolf1]

I don’t know if Drummond doesn’t have a lot of desire to improve, or if his youth and high school coaches just gave him star treatment and didn’t make him do anything.  He looks like a guy who took up basketball at 16. I fully realize his potential, but I can’t help but shake my head, he should be better considering he’s been playing ball for 10 years.

He’s been playing better as of late, he makes a strong case for #1, but I still have my reservations.  I’m still higher on Davis and he is no slouch in terms of potential.  I think Drummond will be the #1 pick, especially due to his recent play, but I personally would take Davis.  In 5 years, I think he’ll be the better player, not to mention I think he’s a safer pick as well.  He has a higher floor, an equal ceiling, it’s just that guys Drummond’s size with the physical tools he has are much more rare.  Drummond is a once in every 5 years type of physical specemin, I just wish he were more polished.

[tbp82Participant]

You think Drummond been playing better as of late? You are talking bout the same Andre Drummond who is on a UCONN team that’s lost 3 of their last five and 5 of thier last 7. You are talking bout the same Andre Drummond who was dominated by the Tennessee. The same Tennessee who Anthony Davis has dominated twice. The same Andre Drummond who ESPN Anaylst left out of the UCONN starting lineup when they were talking about UCONN making changes to win games?  That Andre Drummond?

[JoeWolf1]

 Well, tbp82, if you’re going to nitpick my statements.  

He came out of the gate extremely slow against weak competition.  The Andre Drummond who dropped 2 points against Coppin State, the Andre Drummond who had 1 point and 1 rebound against Arkansas.  The Andre Drummond who averaged 7 points 6 rebounds the first month of the season.  He has played better since his awful start.  He inconsistant, but I never claimed he wasn’t.  He is playing better now than he was in December.  I’m not even a Drummond homer.  Clear enough for you?

[tbp82Participant]

Yeah that’s clear enough for me. He’s improved from the beginning of the year but you say he’s playing better now than he was in December? I’m not sure he is. Just glancing at the games it looks like his numbers are down in January as compared to December not to mentioned that UCONN was undefeated in December and went 2-7 in January. Drummond best game this season was against West Virginia I expect him to get another game like that sooner or later but so far he hasn’t shown it.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

Drummonds body and ability is so tantalizing I understand the hype fully.  I got his high school highlight mix vids downloaded to my phone and remenber all my friends jaws dropping when I was telling them how he’s going to be playing for UConn in a few weeks after already graduating high school.  I was psyched to see him dominate in Michael Beasley fashion.  Then reality hit.  He’s not ready.  He really does float.  They say Perry Jones was a floater but even Perry averaged over 13 as a freshman.  Drummond is making Derrick Favors freshman season look amazing and you gotta wonder if Favors and Cousins were both in this draft if you would take Drummond over them because he is such a "rare" big man.

But at the same time Drummond does have the ability to dominate the Big East tourny and team up with Lamb for a NCAA Final Four run.  Greg Oden did it for Ohio State, and if Drummond can’t do it then we are not talking about the same level of potential.  I can promise you that Anthony Davis is going to do it tho.  And for everybody questioning his offense, he’s not leading a stacked number one ranked Kentucky team in scoring based off hustle plays that’s just ridiculous to think.

[JoeWolf1]

 See, I’ve been pretty busy with work and school lately, so I haven’t gotten to watch a lot of college basketball outside of the teams I follow closely.  I’ll admit, I can’t tell you why U-Conn is losing as of late.  The last game I watched of him was the WVU game where he had a double double in a win and Drummond looked pretty legit.

U-Conn’s current 3 game losing streak they have lost by a combined 8 points in 3 games.  Although, Drummond’s stat lines haven’t been awesome in that streak, I don’t know how much blame can be put on a defensive center.  Then again, I did not catch those 3 games so I’m not going to pretend to know for sure.

One thing I do know, is that he’s super inconsistant.  I watched the FSU game early in the year and the Arkansas game and he looked liked two different players.  I suspect he’ll continue to improve as we head into conference and NCAA tournaments, but not without some road bumps.  My whole original point was, if he were still playing like he was in early December everyone would be considering Davis hands down #1, but Drummond has come on enough teams catch more glimpses of what he "could" become.

[MJBrownParticipant]

If Drummond goes #1 it would be no surprise as everyone lives to get on the bandwagon of any seven footer with skills who plays at a top notch school….However,

After watching Davis play a bunch this year, I’ve realized that he is REALLY REALLY REALLY skilled for a player his size. It seems like he’s mentally tough enough to turn his skills into stardom. I wouldn’t pass on Davis if I had the top pick

[Ghost01Participant]

OP-

Maybe other sites are actually waiting for Drummond to have any semblance of dominance at the collegiate level, before they elevate a player averaging 10-7.8 up to being a "number 1" pick. When has a number one pick EVER been this mediocre in college? Im not saying AD doesn’t have great potential, he does. But Davis is a vastly superior defender, shotblocker, and has put up better scoring and rebounding numbers on a team with far more offensive weapons.

[F_DA_POParticipant]

I think it would be a safe bet Drummond was given the star treatment in high school. Looks like he dominated on just athleticism and size while never really improving his game. He’s a good prospect and no one is denying that, however I don’t see why this guy was hyped up like a LeBron or D12 out of high school. Davis looks like a real "player" (gamer), Drummond looks like he’s heard hes one of the best ever too much. If people are saying all Davis does is block and he has no higher ceiling than Marcus Camby, what the hell makes Drummond so great? All I hear about Drummond is "potential". Not to say Drummond won’t be better, but this seems like the classic Greg Oden vs. Kevin Durant pick (on a lower scale).

 

Overall, I think it will come down to whoever has the pick because they are pretty even IMO. I can see a team like the Jazz, Wizards or Kings taking Anthony Davis.

[AndyBeng2Participant]

 I know that Davis is a stud, but I would take the chance on Drummond because centers with his athleticism do not come along very often, and if you can get that anchor at the 5 for the future you have to take it. How many great powerfowards are there in the game compared to centers. It’s a no brainer, take the center!

[MJBrownParticipant]

I don’t think its about the position. When you have the number one pick, you take the guy that you think will impact your team the most. Tyson Chandler went 2, Javale McGee went in the teens — both of whom are very athletic and long centers like Drummond. Which team ended up getting the better value. I think its a no brainer. The moral of the story, if you think think Drummond is the next Dwight Howard, take him 1st, otherwise, take the guy that you think has the best chance at being a star. I’ve seen them both play, and I’d take Davis first overall. Just my opinion though.

Lastly, Bogut went first overall cuz he was the best 7 footer. Williams and Paul went 3rd and 4th. Nuff said.

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