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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 9:53am #51540

festar35
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These are 2 of my favorite wings in NBA, just wondering what sort of season you think they will have and how that will impact Toronto?
I can’t help but feel Rudy Gay is in for a big season as the number option in Toronto. I can see him putting up 20ppg on a play-off contender. Even reaching that All-Star level we have been waiting for!
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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 10:15am #827395

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I don’t know about being an All-Star though he if averages 20ppg and Toronto is in the playoffs race, it could happen. Especially with Bargnani out of Toronto, someone has to replace his 12 shots a game. I’m sure Gay would love to take 2-4 of them.
I think Rudy will average 18 points per game though. As a matter of fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Gay, DeRozan, and Lowry all average between 16-18 points per and Val with probably 12. They can be a pretty good team that can surprise some people though.
My question is, will Rudy Gay play some power forward this season? With more and more small forwards making that jump (Melo, Durant, LeBron, Parsons) from time to time, I think it would be a change to see him there.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 10:15am #827282

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I don’t know about being an All-Star though he if averages 20ppg and Toronto is in the playoffs race, it could happen. Especially with Bargnani out of Toronto, someone has to replace his 12 shots a game. I’m sure Gay would love to take 2-4 of them.
I think Rudy will average 18 points per game though. As a matter of fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Gay, DeRozan, and Lowry all average between 16-18 points per and Val with probably 12. They can be a pretty good team that can surprise some people though.
My question is, will Rudy Gay play some power forward this season? With more and more small forwards making that jump (Melo, Durant, LeBron, Parsons) from time to time, I think it would be a change to see him there.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 11:50am #827473
  
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  I think Lowry will slide more in to a facilitator role and have about 14ppg and 8-9apg this season.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 11:50am #827357
  
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  I think Lowry will slide more in to a facilitator role and have about 14ppg and 8-9apg this season.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 10:31am #827401

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I’m interested to see if Gay will actually get his shooting percentages up after finally getting vision correction surgery after all these yrs. The dude even refused to wear contacts.
And yes I do expect them to play a lot of small ball with Gay at the 4 given the make up of their frontcourt. Their best quality as a team is probably their athleticism, which playing smaller would help them take advantage of. Also, during his short stint with the Raps, Gay actually defended 4’s better than he defended 3’s.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 10:31am #827288

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I’m interested to see if Gay will actually get his shooting percentages up after finally getting vision correction surgery after all these yrs. The dude even refused to wear contacts.
And yes I do expect them to play a lot of small ball with Gay at the 4 given the make up of their frontcourt. Their best quality as a team is probably their athleticism, which playing smaller would help them take advantage of. Also, during his short stint with the Raps, Gay actually defended 4’s better than he defended 3’s.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 1:10pm #827439
  
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  Corrective eye surgery can’t fix his terrible shot selection.
  If Gay finally learns to stop taking so many deep jumpers/fade aways and focus’s more on presuring the D by getting into the paint, his FG% will explode… into respectability.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 1:22pm #827452
    
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    This is true to a degree, but Rudy is a much better scorer in iso than he is as a spot up shooter. Rudy is a rhythm scorer. He needs to improve his spot up shooting. For the Raptors he was in the top 7% of the league in iso scoring, which is near elite, whereas he was in the bottom 18-20% in the league as a spot up shooter. Shore up his spot up shooting and he’s much more efficient from the field.
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    - Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 2:20pm #827493
      
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      I agree… Rudy has never been a great Spot up shooter. His iso game has always been what stood out about him. He can go and get any shot he wants against anybody. But the wide open easy shots are the ones that concern me. If he can ever improve that area, I think he can be 23-25ppg scorer for the Raptors.
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    - Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 2:20pm #827607
      
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      I agree… Rudy has never been a great Spot up shooter. His iso game has always been what stood out about him. He can go and get any shot he wants against anybody. But the wide open easy shots are the ones that concern me. If he can ever improve that area, I think he can be 23-25ppg scorer for the Raptors.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 1:22pm #827569
    
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    This is true to a degree, but Rudy is a much better scorer in iso than he is as a spot up shooter. Rudy is a rhythm scorer. He needs to improve his spot up shooting. For the Raptors he was in the top 7% of the league in iso scoring, which is near elite, whereas he was in the bottom 18-20% in the league as a spot up shooter. Shore up his spot up shooting and he’s much more efficient from the field.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 1:10pm #827554
  
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  Corrective eye surgery can’t fix his terrible shot selection.
  If Gay finally learns to stop taking so many deep jumpers/fade aways and focus’s more on presuring the D by getting into the paint, his FG% will explode… into respectability.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 11:22am #827420

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Rudy Gay no perfect vision 2012-2013
18,2 ppg 6,1 rpg 2,7 apg 1,5 spg 0,7 / 41,6 – 32,3 – 81,4 / in Memphis / Toronto
Rudy Gay perfect vision 2013-2014
21,5 ppg 6,2 rpg 3 apg 1,6 spg 0,8 bpg / 47,5 – 38,1 – 88,3 / in Toronto 82 games
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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 11:22am #827304

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Rudy Gay no perfect vision 2012-2013
18,2 ppg 6,1 rpg 2,7 apg 1,5 spg 0,7 / 41,6 – 32,3 – 81,4 / in Memphis / Toronto
Rudy Gay perfect vision 2013-2014
21,5 ppg 6,2 rpg 3 apg 1,6 spg 0,8 bpg / 47,5 – 38,1 – 88,3 / in Toronto 82 games
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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 1:44pm #827470

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I don’t know how Gay will play but I’m surprised how well he and DeRozan coexisted last season. Gay was better in every area and far more efficient across the board in Toronto. Despite being a very similar player DeRozan played very well next to him. His scoring, efficiency and FTA all went up.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 1:44pm #827584

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I don’t know how Gay will play but I’m surprised how well he and DeRozan coexisted last season. Gay was better in every area and far more efficient across the board in Toronto. Despite being a very similar player DeRozan played very well next to him. His scoring, efficiency and FTA all went up.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 7:55pm #827696

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Lowry is a pitbull at Pg, he’ll be better this year with best friend Rudy being the #1 option, Gay may cement himself as a Top 5 Sf and Scorer…Derezon and Ross make me green with envy as a 76er fan, we need an athletic Sg with a jump shot to play off Turner and MCW…
If Rudy plays at an all star level and Kyle Lowry gets back to playing elite defense and playing all around basketball the Raptors could get the 7th or 8th seed at worst…I think Jonas and Terrence Ross are the key to this team really being special though, Aamir and Tyler bring awesome energy and if they can find a backup Pg and C they’ll be deep as well…Demar is going to lool really good playing off Lowry and Gay as long as everyone shares the ball…I want to see Jonas start every game at C, he is on my breakout list, I see him averaging 10 and 10 this year at the very least…
Lowry and Gay have to lead the young guys the whole way, I like the make up of this team though, a lot of hard working players from successful schools and programs, a good recipe for a winning culture…
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Posted on: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 7:55pm #827806

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Lowry is a pitbull at Pg, he’ll be better this year with best friend Rudy being the #1 option, Gay may cement himself as a Top 5 Sf and Scorer…Derezon and Ross make me green with envy as a 76er fan, we need an athletic Sg with a jump shot to play off Turner and MCW…
If Rudy plays at an all star level and Kyle Lowry gets back to playing elite defense and playing all around basketball the Raptors could get the 7th or 8th seed at worst…I think Jonas and Terrence Ross are the key to this team really being special though, Aamir and Tyler bring awesome energy and if they can find a backup Pg and C they’ll be deep as well…Demar is going to lool really good playing off Lowry and Gay as long as everyone shares the ball…I want to see Jonas start every game at C, he is on my breakout list, I see him averaging 10 and 10 this year at the very least…
Lowry and Gay have to lead the young guys the whole way, I like the make up of this team though, a lot of hard working players from successful schools and programs, a good recipe for a winning culture…
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Posted on: Wed, 07/31/2013 - 10:11am #827999

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I’m just not high on Rudy Gay.
Poor shot selection and too much hero ball. You can’t improve your spot up shooting if you’re not comfortable playing/moving without the ball.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/31/2013 - 10:11am #828107

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I’m just not high on Rudy Gay.
Poor shot selection and too much hero ball. You can’t improve your spot up shooting if you’re not comfortable playing/moving without the ball.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/31/2013 - 3:53pm #828233

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Not a fan of any of these guys, but getting rid of Bargs will help a ton. I’ve no idea if this vision correction thing is an actual thing. I find it hard to believe that he had any real vision problems and avoided surgery AND got a huge contract. If the corrective surgery were helpful, I would have thought the Grizz would have made him get it.
But Derozan and Gay are a good combination. Because only one of them can take a bad shot down the floor at a time. And after one of them bricks a terrible long two, I bet the other is less likely to take the same bad shot on the next possession.
Look for the Raptors to compete for a playoff spot. Heck in a month or so a playoff spot might look like a lock for that team.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/31/2013 - 3:53pm #828125

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Not a fan of any of these guys, but getting rid of Bargs will help a ton. I’ve no idea if this vision correction thing is an actual thing. I find it hard to believe that he had any real vision problems and avoided surgery AND got a huge contract. If the corrective surgery were helpful, I would have thought the Grizz would have made him get it.
But Derozan and Gay are a good combination. Because only one of them can take a bad shot down the floor at a time. And after one of them bricks a terrible long two, I bet the other is less likely to take the same bad shot on the next possession.
Look for the Raptors to compete for a playoff spot. Heck in a month or so a playoff spot might look like a lock for that team.
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Posted on: Fri, 08/02/2013 - 11:26am #828950

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“But Derozan and Gay are a good combination. Because only one of them can take a bad shot down the floor at a time. And after one of them bricks a terrible long two, I bet the other is less likely to take the same bad shot on the next possession.”
lol. very funny but true at the same time.
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Posted on: Fri, 08/02/2013 - 11:26am #829058

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“But Derozan and Gay are a good combination. Because only one of them can take a bad shot down the floor at a time. And after one of them bricks a terrible long two, I bet the other is less likely to take the same bad shot on the next possession.”
lol. very funny but true at the same time.
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