Is it killing anyone else, seeing this guy coming off the bench??
He is a monster on the boards.
No, because millsap is their best player and favors is still too raw on offense. Utah will slowly transition him into the starting lineup as I see him starting mid season
I could see milsap or jefferson being dealt around draft time for utah to get a good young point guard, also remember kantar is there too.
I hate it. I have been trying to find a trade for them to get rid of Jefferson and/or Milsap but can't find one. I posted one with Gallinari but told I was crazy. All the other trades don't match up. I just don't understand why Utah would want to be just good enough for a first round exit rather than trading high priced veterans and letting young players, especailly Favors, get time and experience while also getting a better draft pick in all likelyhood.
I was expecting them to trade Jefferson and/or Millsap at the deadline last year. They're both expiring this year, so it makes no sense to keep them both around when they could be giving minutes to Favors and Kanter.
They have Mo Williams coming off the books as well this summer.
I don't understand. Do they think they're going to sign Chris Paul and Andrew Bynum or something?
Why should they try to sign Bynum? They already have a very talented frontcourt. Derrick Favors is one of the top talents in Basketball.
Signing CP3 is always making sence!
But why should he sign there? He can go anywhere (stay with clps, sign with mavs, lakers....... whatever).
I think Utah is not <the place to be> though having great players like Favors, Jefferson etc.
The Jazz are being stubborn and stupid by holding onto Jefferson and Milsap. Everybody was saying they can become the new Thunder but you can't build for the future while winning now. The Thunder traded Ray Allen and let Lewis leave to allow Durant and Green to play. The Jazz are holding onto Jefferson and Milsap and letting Favors and Kanter rot away.
I don't care what people think, to get better you have to play. Enes Kanter absolutely dominated the preseason and is being rewarded with 14mpg thus far....HUH?!?!?
The Jazz have to acquire some young playmaking guards and allow Favors and Kanter to get some playing time. Trading Jefferson is the most logial conclusion to allow this to happen.
"you can't build for the future while winning now".
Isn't that what teams like the Thunder, Celtics and Spurs are doing?
Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins, and Glen Davis developed while the Celtics were competing for titles.
Andrew Bynum, Shannon Brown, and Trevor Ariza developed while the Lakers were competing for titles.
Al Harrington, Jonathan Bender, and Jeff Foster developed while the Pacers were competing for titles.
Jermaine O'Neal developed while the Blazers were competing for titles.
Joe Johnson, Boris Diaw, and Leandro Barbosa were developed while the Suns were competing with Amare, Nash, and Marion.
Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Hedo Turkoglu, Kawhi Leonard, George Hill, Gary Neal, Tiago Splitter, and DeJuan Blair have been developed while the Spurs are competing/have competed for a title.
Josh Howard, JJ Barea, and Marquis Daniels developed while the Mavs are competing/have competed for a title.
Paul Millsap was a backup and injury fill-in starter for his first four years.
Where is this magical list of guys whose careers have failed because the team they were on was simply too good to develop them? This league doesn't need more JaVale McGees spending years running in place because they never learn anything, and their team doesn't hold them accountable for failing to do so.
1st off the Thunder traded away their vets and threw Durant and Jeff Green right into the starting lineup and allowed them to sink or swim.
And BTPH just made my point take a look at that list of players and outside of the ones for the Spurs how many of them players actually stayed with the team that developed them? None. They are went to other teams for more playing time.
No, wrong again.
The Thunder model was nothing more than they got Kevin Durant. This is like someone saying the Cavs model was perfect when they got LeBron. No. There is no model when a new LeBron doesn't come along every year. The Bobcats are trotting out the 'bottom out' model, and it isn't so pretty with Kemba, MKG, and Biyombo.
Also, Joe Johnson averaged 17 per game with Phoenix. Andrew Bynum went from barely playing, to basically being the third big man behind Pau and Odom, to someone who averaged 19 per game last year. Josh Howard averaged 20 per game in Dallas. Harrington grew from someone who wasn't in the Indiana rotation to being the 6th man on the team that was in the Eastern Conference Finals. Barea grew from being the 3rd point guard with Dallas to being a contributor in the Finals. Most players don't spend their careers with one team, but these teams clearly did reap the benefits of the players they developed. The Lakers weren't wrong about developing Andrew Bynum simply because they turned him into Dwight Howard nor were the Mavs valuing development improperly when they flipped Josh Howard for Butler, Haywood, Gooden, and Stevenson.
The list you provided is true in a sense but you also have to remember they were playing with and sometimes behind established star veterans. (Garnett, Pierce,Allen/Kobe, Gasol, Odom/J.Rose,Miller/R.Wallace, D.Stoudamire,Pippen). There allows a balance
I feel like if he had been just thrown out there he would be better now. I mean hes is an athletic rebounder and shot blocker at this stage. He surely would have been no worse had he played alot earlier in his career. I mean Millsap and Jefferson are nice but by no means sure fire hall of famers yet alone all stars.
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How would he be better when he cannot make a shot or create a shot? That isn't something 10 more minutes per game changes, getting better at individual skills is an offseason thing.