i'm pretty confident in saying that by his 3rd or 4th year Derrick Rose will be the consensus best point guard in the NBA. i think he combines the best attributes of CP3 and D. Will into one player and its only a matter of time before he's 1st team all NBA. what do yall think?
HAVE U EVER HEARD OF CP3 HE'S THE BEST AND WILL BE THE BEST INTO HE RETIRES
who's CP3? i've never heard of him.
Alphamale310, i will agree with you that Derrick Rose will be one of the best pg's in the nba, shoot, talent-wise he's as skilled as anyone in the nba. However, in my opinion it's really a toss-up in terms of will he be the best, i guess it's really a matter of taste & what you like or look for in terms of a point guard. Right now, CP3 is hands down the best pg in the league. Some people can argue that Deron Williams is the best pg & they definitely have a legitimate argument. We can't predict the future, but we can surely enjoy the ride!
Winning means alot in this league so depending on what kind of players get based around D.Rose in the upcoming years I think depends alot on his individual success. This era I believe that CP3 is the best point guard...this season I would say Chauncey Billups...so far in the playoffs...gotta say D.ROSE
Rose has got crazy skills and all the potential in the world, no doubt an all star, but he is not the fine tuned, polished point guard chris paul is. Derrick Rose will never average 23ppg and 11ast/ game. Chris Paul does about that right now. If you are asking if Rose will break CP3 off, now thats a different question...all day...
So, austin0123 are you saying that Rose will break CP3 off? Rose is a phenom, however I will say this, Rose will have a tougher time guarding CP3 than CP3 will have guarding him. Rose isn't as good a defender as CP3
Have you watched the playoffs, Paul can't even guard an old Billups (still good, but slowing down). Literally, they keep putting other players on him. Now think about Rose, similar size, except he's a FREAK athlete.
skin, you're probably right about CP3 being a better defender, but i dont think CP3 is necessarily a great on ball defender. he just gets a lot of steals. i think D. Rose would have an easier time staying in front of CP3 than vice versa simply because of Rose's supreme quickness. but i'm just talking about 1 on 1 off the dribble. of course CP3 has many more dimensions to his game that Rose would have to contend with.
I think CP3 will be a little bit better than Rose for the fact he's a better shooter and is a little bit more skill set!! but here my top pgs in 3 years!!
1B. Deron Willams
2. Derrick Rose
3. Ronjo Rondo
4. Tony Parker
5. John Wall
Sterling knows hoops, i agree with your list, but i would list chauncey billups @ 3 which would move rondo & parker down. John Wall hasn't even performed in college yet so it is unfair to list him with these guys ( I do agree with u though, he is an amazing talent & prospect)
Chris Paul represents the New Orleans Hornets,
HE IS THE ENTIRE TEAM.
Without him, that franchise will not last a day with all the injuries and inconsistencies this season.
CP3 is the best now, and he will be one of the top 3 PGs of all-time.
Chris Paul is the best poing guard in the last 10 years or so if not more. Rose has a long way to go to reach his level.
Derrick Roses Athletic Abilities are amazing. He has on of the quickest steps and burst to the Rim and I have never seen a PG like him. When he consistently hits his 15 footers and is able to hit 3 pointers at 40%, he will then be unguardable and the best PG in the NBA. Till then you can not sleep on Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Rajon Rondo, Tony Parker, Ramond Felton?, Rodney Stuckey?, Aaron Brooks, Mario Chalmers, Mike Conley, Russell WestBrook, Devin Harris, THsoe are to many guards with potential that is unpredictable.
Raymond Felton has not proved that he was worth the 5th pick, MIke Conley still looks bad to me with 4 assits in 30 minutes.
Stuckey cannot hit a jumper, and Brooks is too undersized.
Don't forget to mention Monta Ellis; he really stands out to me.
umm chauncy billups even at his age and not as quick still gives everyone problems so the chris paul couldnt ahndle him isnt a valid argument..as far as derrick rose its possible he could be eventually because he has all the ground work to be just as good talent wise but the physical aspect pushes him over the edge..if you have 2 players with the same talent then the size and athletisim pushes one over the other...what people seem to not be taking into consideration is rajon rondo..he has been the best pg in the playoffs overal with billups a close secondand this is his third year if/when he gets his jumper just a lil better hes gonna raise to another level..the reason alot of people arent mentioning him is because hes just starting to step up and theres been no build up
Yeah it is a valid argument. So what if he gives others a problem too. We're talking about Billups abusing Paul, when Billups does "it", then its valid. So guess what, its valid.
if thats the case rondo abused d rose alot worst then paul got abused..
Rose needs to learn how to play D, theirs no doubt, but he's still so young.
what about ricky rubio...the guy is 18 and played great against jkidd cp3 and dwillz last summer...he was full court pressing them and handle the ball like a string all game...he turned the ball over sometimes but what pg dont and he is only 18...imagine him this past year playing his senior year at a high school in the usa...he definitely would have been the player of the year in high school...he probably would have average 35 pts 8 rebounds 12 assist and 6 steals against them kids...just like rose cp3 and dwillz he has flair with his game...i never saw john wall play but ricky rubio has to be better then him...one was playing against great competition since he probably was born and the other was playing against players he is better then by far...everyone knows your game get better when your playing against players and teams that are on your level or better then you...so i think ricky rubio right now is better then him and can be one of the pgs we will be talking about in 3 years
Lets compare the 08/09 stats of Rose and Rondo.
Rose: 16.8PPG, 6.3APG, 3.8RPG, 0.8SPG, 47.5FG%, 22.2 3PT%, 2.5TPG
Rondo: 11.9PPG, 8.2APG, 5.2RPG, 1.9SPG,50.5FG%, 31.3 3PT% 2.6TPG
For me I think the stats speak for themseleves. Rondo leads in every category, besides scoring, Sadly he shoots higher percentage then Rose, but just gets other involved more.
Rondo also isn't ready be mentioned with the top PG's yest
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chancey Bullups
4. Tony Parker
I think Rose is in the 2nd tier with players such as
Devin Harris, Jason Kidd, Steve nash, Rajun Rondo.
I put Jason Kidd and Steve Nash this low because they are past their primes, and younger guys are passing them.
you have to realize european game is a different game then in the usa so he wouldnt average those unbelievable stats as you say..and he played ok aginst the usa not great and thats also the olympics not the nba just look at how carlos arroy destroyed the usa but cant do that in the nba..most people in the states just cant seem to comprahend that the game here and the game there is alot different..by the way to the other guy..rubio stats are almost the same as jennings stats and this was jennings first year playing over there where the game is different...some of yall kill me when yall say he destroyed the usa when they played..obviously you were watch a different game or didnt see the game and just got the info through someone else..check out his stats for the game and olympics on eurobasket.com and rewatch the whole game not just highlights
Alpha's right. Rose will be the best Pg in 3 years if not sooner. CP3 is the best now but Rose's tools are just far superior. CP3 hold an advantage in range and vision right now but Rose will continue to improve. Rose doesnt have any spot-up shooter whereas CP3 has Peja, West likes his jumper and T. Chandler the 7'2" alley-oop machine. If Rose had spot-up shooters this year we could be saying he was the best this year.
Oh and no other PG in the league couldve have made the game saving block that D-Rose made on Rondo..........At least not until B-Jen and Wall are in the league.
thats not tru..rondo blks other point guards pretty well and devin harris makes that blk.and i wouldnt mention wall nor jennings to be able to do that till they at least play in the leauge or against leauge comp..wall seems to have problems wit good defenders..avery bradly seems to put a pretty good lock down when they play (3 different times)
D.Rose will be great, one of the best, but not the best. There is and will be too much competition. Chris Paul, John Wall, and Brandon Jennings just to name a few will keep him from holding that spot but he can arguably be the best. I just don't really see it.
I mean Derrick Rose is okay and all, but I think he will reach his prime in only a few more seasons whereas guys like Chris Paul and Deron Williams will only sky-rocket more every single season. I don't think D.Rose will ever get close to them. Rondo is strictly defense, Billups is only going to decline due to age, same with Nash, Kidd, etc. Tony Parker I think has already reached his plateau, he will remain good for a long time but I don't think he's going to necessarily improve, which is what I feel about Derrick Rose, I think he will hit a plateau in a few years and just stay there awhile without improving. I think D.Williams & C.Paul have the PG spots locked down for at least a decade.
i used to think that rondo is strickly defense but he has shown this playoffs that when he wants to he can put up 20points on the regular
Rose will be the PG. Paul is kinda small. I know he proved otherwise but I would take Rose.
Size doesn't have anything to do with one's ability as a elite level point guard. Granted, D. Rose is a superior athlete, but his knowledge of the game & point guard ability isn't on the level of D. Williams nor CP3. As far as C. Billups killing CP3, were any of you watching the playoffs? The entire denver defense was geared to stop CP3 b/c they knew he'd have to carry the load b/c no one else could really hurt them. David West is a decent player, but he struggles when athletic & physical forwards like kenyon martin guard him. It's easier to take a guy out of the game as the nuggets did with cp3 when u only have to game plan for that person.
The knowledge and feel for the game will come in time. Remember, CP3 and Deron Williams spent more time in college and have a few years experience in the NBA on Rose already. It's hard to compare players with a lot of seasoning to a guy as raw as Rose...And let's be honest, the other two have more weapons than Rose has right now. I'd take Boozer or West over any of the big men that Rose has defending the paint in Chicago.
There was a good story linked on DoubleScribble.com this morning about Rose from a Chicago paper. It talks about the off-the-court stuff he's doing to maintain on-the-court success. It's a solid read and shows that the kid has a good head on his shoulders... Let's hope he fares better than the last Chicago PG prodigy, Jay Williams.
chris paul is too far ahead of rose right now. plus cp3 is still getting better. i think cp3 is better then deron williams because hes a year younger and still puts up better numbers
i honestly dont know wat it will take for u people to understand the best point guard in the league is deron williams. if u dont notice it because of stats then it is becuase the ball isnt in deron williams hands as much as paul. the jazz have a weird offense that i still dont understand but deron is the best please believe. cp3 isnt the best because he cant play defense on the more physical guards in the league( ex: chauncey billups deron williams always destroy cp). i cant say derrick is the best because he is still so young and hasnt developed a consistent enough jumper from deep to be seen as a threat. and as for billups he's good but deron is just better
Good call on DWILL, most don't consider the fact his offensive system is different than cp3's. To many people here get caught up in stats.
Chris Paul will be like steve nash at his best but Derrick Rose will be like allen iverson but more of a team player.
..rose destroyed andre miller twice, one with the cross and the block, made 10/10 fgs in a half, game saving block on rondo and the memorable 36 points 11 asts playoff debut, just a very intruiging talent.. has worlds of potential, one of my fave players, along with bargs, kg, rubio and in his prime starbury
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so i understand all the hype about him and i hear it every day, but lets be honest, people were saying the same things about Stephon Marbury, how theres never been a more athletic/quick point guard and look how he turned out. Thankfully i dont think Rose is the nut case that Starbury is but lets calm down with calling him the best. Plus i think John Wall will be the best pg in 5 years haha, but for real i do think Wall is gonna be better than Rose