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  • #50755
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    rickyD510
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    Tyreke was offered a 4 yr 44mill contract by the pelicans…do u think the kings should match?

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  • #810798
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    Brianalex
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    no

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  • #810733
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    Brianalex
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    no

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  • #810804
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    juves4783
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    i’m not convinced that tyreke is a small forward. kings have thorton and mclemore. time to cut ties and start the post-evans era.

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  • #810739
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    i’m not convinced that tyreke is a small forward. kings have thorton and mclemore. time to cut ties and start the post-evans era.

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  • #810753
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    Siggy
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    Hell no.
    Run away and don’t look back.

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  • #810818
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    Siggy
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    Hell no.
    Run away and don’t look back.

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  • #810796
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    HobbyOG
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    I would try and do a sign in trade if possible. What do the pelicans need with him? They have a point and SG. He isn’t a small forward. Seems like a waste of money. They should of tried to get Iggy for the cheap to play SF.

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  • #810731
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    I would try and do a sign in trade if possible. What do the pelicans need with him? They have a point and SG. He isn’t a small forward. Seems like a waste of money. They should of tried to get Iggy for the cheap to play SF.

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    • #810775
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      Professor Rozay
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      Apparently there pitch to him was that they were going to use him in an off the bench role like Manu Ginobili…but I’m not sure if that type of situation will work with him…

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    • #810840
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      Apparently there pitch to him was that they were going to use him in an off the bench role like Manu Ginobili…but I’m not sure if that type of situation will work with him…

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  • #810802
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    FastAndFurious
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    NO, Tyreke needs a fresh start, he hasn’t improved with the Kings since his Rookie year, it’s obviously not working there.

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  • #810737
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    FastAndFurious
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    NO, Tyreke needs a fresh start, he hasn’t improved with the Kings since his Rookie year, it’s obviously not working there.

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    • #811058
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      Hector_Reyes_8
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      It’s not his fault he hasn’t improved, it’s a huge mistake by the kings. I swear, Tyreke and Boogie are amazing talents, they just had nobody to help improve them at all.

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    • #810993
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      It’s not his fault he hasn’t improved, it’s a huge mistake by the kings. I swear, Tyreke and Boogie are amazing talents, they just had nobody to help improve them at all.

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  • #810810
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    BasketBalAllan
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    Yes, the contract, if it has maximum increases per year from the new CBA of 8%, should start at $9.82 million. That sounds reasonable to me, it would be better than losing him for nothing and if he doesnt work out before Febuary you could probably still trade him to N.O. for G.V.

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  • #810745
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    BasketBalAllan
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    Yes, the contract, if it has maximum increases per year from the new CBA of 8%, should start at $9.82 million. That sounds reasonable to me, it would be better than losing him for nothing and if he doesnt work out before Febuary you could probably still trade him to N.O. for G.V.

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  • #810816
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    mbunner23
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    I don’t know what everyone else thinks but I believe the Pelicans are going to sneak up on people. They look like they’re going to have some really good guards even though the likely hood of all of them being on the roster when the season starts is unlikely. With Holiday, Gordon, Rivers, and Vasquez and maybe Tyreke. Obviously someone has to go, maybe even two of them but dang that looks good on paper. Not to mention the development of Davis underneath, they will be interesting to keep an eye on through out the next few years.

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  • #810751
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    mbunner23
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    I don’t know what everyone else thinks but I believe the Pelicans are going to sneak up on people. They look like they’re going to have some really good guards even though the likely hood of all of them being on the roster when the season starts is unlikely. With Holiday, Gordon, Rivers, and Vasquez and maybe Tyreke. Obviously someone has to go, maybe even two of them but dang that looks good on paper. Not to mention the development of Davis underneath, they will be interesting to keep an eye on through out the next few years.

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  • #810814
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    terrancebower
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    The kings still don’t have a legitimate starting point guard, they should try to swing a sign and trade to get Vasquez. As for the Pelicans, they may be looking to move Eric Gordon since he doesn’t want to be there anyways

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  • #810749
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    terrancebower
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    The kings still don’t have a legitimate starting point guard, they should try to swing a sign and trade to get Vasquez. As for the Pelicans, they may be looking to move Eric Gordon since he doesn’t want to be there anyways

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  • #810781
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    theballerway
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    I not sure him and Holiday are the most effective back court but just let that man be free. They can invest in Maclemore while he’s on the nice managable 8th pick rookie contract and you got Thorton there in case they want to bring him on slowly. Definately try the sign and trade from a value perspective

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  • #810846
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    theballerway
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    I not sure him and Holiday are the most effective back court but just let that man be free. They can invest in Maclemore while he’s on the nice managable 8th pick rookie contract and you got Thorton there in case they want to bring him on slowly. Definately try the sign and trade from a value perspective

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  • #810795
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    The Kings likely only match if they are doing a sign and trade. Evans badly needs a change of scenery and unless someone in the new ownership or management love his game I expect he gets it. I do agree that $11 million a year is a bit much, but otherwise Evans can likely regain his usefulness in New Orleans.

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  • #810860
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    The Kings likely only match if they are doing a sign and trade. Evans badly needs a change of scenery and unless someone in the new ownership or management love his game I expect he gets it. I do agree that $11 million a year is a bit much, but otherwise Evans can likely regain his usefulness in New Orleans.

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  • #810797
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Dell Demps might need to update his resume soon.

    The Kings would be foolish to match this offer.

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  • #810862
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Dell Demps might need to update his resume soon.

    The Kings would be foolish to match this offer.

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  • #810801
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    B-ball fan
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    Pelicans could have a really interesting team for the next 3 years at least. I would like to see them become more of an uptempo team if they get Evans. A line-up of Holiday-Gordon-Evans-Anderson-Davis will have some serious slashing ability to the rim without sacrificing spacing. Their perimeter guys will have to get used to playing without the ball more, but that is a dangerous offensive line-up if they can get it all to work.

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  • #810866
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    Pelicans could have a really interesting team for the next 3 years at least. I would like to see them become more of an uptempo team if they get Evans. A line-up of Holiday-Gordon-Evans-Anderson-Davis will have some serious slashing ability to the rim without sacrificing spacing. Their perimeter guys will have to get used to playing without the ball more, but that is a dangerous offensive line-up if they can get it all to work.

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  • #810815
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    BasketBalAllan
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    If they choose to play Evans off the bench, this will not workout. If they try and put him at the SF, this will not work. Im not even sure he wont struggle even more trying to play next to Holiday. The reason I like Evans on the Kings is because he would be a good fit with Bmac at the 2 with a descent off the ball SF. Im not really sure I can see him doing well in the NBA other than at the point with an off the ball SG.

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    • #810839
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      Siggy
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      Why don’t you think he could work off the bench?
      He’s had limited time off the bench in his career, but during that stint of games he was actually pretty damn efficient and effective (per 36 as a reserve he’s something like 21/6/5 on 49% from the floor)
      Off the bench he could dominate the ball to his heart’s content, backing up either back court position, playing with weaker teammates so he’d be counted on to score, bullying weaker 2nd units.

      If what you’re saying is true, then those are VERY specific circumstances for a guy slated to make 12 mill/ yr. Guys making that money should be able to be effective in a number of different circumstances.

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      • #810841
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        BasketBalAllan
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        I just do not think he will mesh with Holiday or EG, I also do not think he will appriciate playing less minutes in a less glorified role. He may have an effective per off the bench but he has only come off the bench 10 times in his nba career, not the greatest data pool.

        And I agree that a guy making 11mil a year should be able to do more than that but GM’s just cant help themselves from over-offering.

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      • #810906
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        BasketBalAllan
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        I just do not think he will mesh with Holiday or EG, I also do not think he will appriciate playing less minutes in a less glorified role. He may have an effective per off the bench but he has only come off the bench 10 times in his nba career, not the greatest data pool.

        And I agree that a guy making 11mil a year should be able to do more than that but GM’s just cant help themselves from over-offering.

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    • #810904
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      Siggy
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      Why don’t you think he could work off the bench?
      He’s had limited time off the bench in his career, but during that stint of games he was actually pretty damn efficient and effective (per 36 as a reserve he’s something like 21/6/5 on 49% from the floor)
      Off the bench he could dominate the ball to his heart’s content, backing up either back court position, playing with weaker teammates so he’d be counted on to score, bullying weaker 2nd units.

      If what you’re saying is true, then those are VERY specific circumstances for a guy slated to make 12 mill/ yr. Guys making that money should be able to be effective in a number of different circumstances.

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  • #810880
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    BasketBalAllan
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    If they choose to play Evans off the bench, this will not workout. If they try and put him at the SF, this will not work. Im not even sure he wont struggle even more trying to play next to Holiday. The reason I like Evans on the Kings is because he would be a good fit with Bmac at the 2 with a descent off the ball SF. Im not really sure I can see him doing well in the NBA other than at the point with an off the ball SG.

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  • #810859
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    Hitster
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    The ballpark offer for Evans is fair value but I don’t see how he fits in unless he plays SF. It’s fine saying he could be a super 6th man but Manu plays near starter minutes and with Gordon, Holliday and Vasquez there at the moment then backcourt minutes are crowded.

    I wonder are the Pellians looking to run a “Nellieball” type team.

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  • #810924
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    Hitster
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    The ballpark offer for Evans is fair value but I don’t see how he fits in unless he plays SF. It’s fine saying he could be a super 6th man but Manu plays near starter minutes and with Gordon, Holliday and Vasquez there at the moment then backcourt minutes are crowded.

    I wonder are the Pellians looking to run a “Nellieball” type team.

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  • #810889
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    The Kings and Tyreke need a fresh start.

    They should have traded him to Detroit for their lotto pick. The Kings would then have selected Burke to go with McLemore giving them a great fresh new backcourt…..

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  • #810954
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    The Kings and Tyreke need a fresh start.

    They should have traded him to Detroit for their lotto pick. The Kings would then have selected Burke to go with McLemore giving them a great fresh new backcourt…..

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  • #810899
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    The Scare Crow Rises
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    Why are free agents signing with teams that have no focus…

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  • #810964
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    The Scare Crow Rises
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    Why are free agents signing with teams that have no focus…

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  • #810915
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    realkerrykittles30
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    They are not going to match per source

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  • #810980
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    realkerrykittles30
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    They are not going to match per source

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  • #810917
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    Lotto Stud
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    Will Rivers be on the block if the Pelicans acquire Evans?

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    • #810931
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      Siggy
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      For what? A bag of cheese doodles?

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      • #811034
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        BasketBalAllan
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        Dude…cheese doodles? Not cool…

        Maybe pizza…

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      • #810969
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        BasketBalAllan
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        Dude…cheese doodles? Not cool…

        Maybe pizza…

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    • #810996
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      Siggy
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      For what? A bag of cheese doodles?

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  • #810982
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    Lotto Stud
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    Will Rivers be on the block if the Pelicans acquire Evans?

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  • #811060
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    report—

    Tyreke Evans could agree to an offer sheet with the Pelicans as soon as Monday evening, with the deal believed to be worth $44 million over four years.
    Bear in mind that Evans is scheduled to meet with the Pistons and Kings on Monday, the Kings have the right to match any offer for their restricted FA, and nothing can be signed until July 10. We’ll let you know if subsequent reports confirm Evans’ willingness to accept an offer sheet from the Pelicans.

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  • #810995
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    report—

    Tyreke Evans could agree to an offer sheet with the Pelicans as soon as Monday evening, with the deal believed to be worth $44 million over four years.
    Bear in mind that Evans is scheduled to meet with the Pistons and Kings on Monday, the Kings have the right to match any offer for their restricted FA, and nothing can be signed until July 10. We’ll let you know if subsequent reports confirm Evans’ willingness to accept an offer sheet from the Pelicans.

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    • #811031
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      He needs to go to a team where he can be the combo guard that he always has been. He is not a SF and he is not a pure SG. The best year he has had so far has been predominantly with the ball in his hands. This is never going to happen at Sacramento and it also wont happen with the Pelicans.

      I actually think he would fit in at a team like the bucks, once they get rid of Jennings, and pair him with Reddick in the backcourt. They won’t be the best backcourt in the league, but it would give Evans the greatest opportunity to play his own game.

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    • #811096
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      He needs to go to a team where he can be the combo guard that he always has been. He is not a SF and he is not a pure SG. The best year he has had so far has been predominantly with the ball in his hands. This is never going to happen at Sacramento and it also wont happen with the Pelicans.

      I actually think he would fit in at a team like the bucks, once they get rid of Jennings, and pair him with Reddick in the backcourt. They won’t be the best backcourt in the league, but it would give Evans the greatest opportunity to play his own game.

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    • #811033
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      He needs to go to a team where he can be the combo guard that he always has been. He is not a SF and he is not a pure SG. The best year he has had so far has been predominantly with the ball in his hands. This is never going to happen at Sacramento and it also wont happen with the Pelicans.

      I actually think he would fit in at a team like the bucks, once they get rid of Jennings, and pair him with Reddick in the backcourt. They won’t be the best backcourt in the league, but it would give Evans the greatest opportunity to play his own game.

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    • #811098
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      He needs to go to a team where he can be the combo guard that he always has been. He is not a SF and he is not a pure SG. The best year he has had so far has been predominantly with the ball in his hands. This is never going to happen at Sacramento and it also wont happen with the Pelicans.

      I actually think he would fit in at a team like the bucks, once they get rid of Jennings, and pair him with Reddick in the backcourt. They won’t be the best backcourt in the league, but it would give Evans the greatest opportunity to play his own game.

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  • #811122
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    I thought his value was around 8-9m per year but someone said it was almost at 10. Therefore, 11m is slightly above market. Personally, I think Evans had a quietly great year on a horribly dysfunctional team last year. Looking b/t the lines and from the maybe 8 kings games I watched, I thought he showed a lot of improvement in the areas of shot selection and playing off the ball. Obv his outside shot is still poor, and he is not a pure PG, but if other teams see the pluses, then he is worth more than market value.

    The question that remains is whether 11m is high enough that you can convince the kings that they should not play chicken with you. I think it could be, but this is a very dangerous game for both teams. Tyreke would be wisest to take his time and speak with other teams. If he can convince another team to step in there, he can drive up his price/years because SAC will be able to negotiate the two teams against each other. As it stands now, I dont think SAC has the stones to match and what is likely is that some kinda face saving sign and trade is worked out, or maybe a third party steps in because if SAC is demanding Vasquez for Tyreke and I am the Pelicans, I am saying, “ok, sign Evans for 11m.. your franchise is a joke anyways…”

    Scorecard:

    Evans to NO for less than Vasquez-> SAC blinks
    Another team makes an offer sheet to Evans -> SAC and Evans win
    NO, SAC and another team do a deal centered around Evans and Gordon/Vasquez -> Compromise happens through negotiation EVERYONE WINZZZ
    Evans to NO for Gordon or Vasquez -> SAC Wins (I really dont see this happening)

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  • #811188
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    Truett
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    I thought his value was around 8-9m per year but someone said it was almost at 10. Therefore, 11m is slightly above market. Personally, I think Evans had a quietly great year on a horribly dysfunctional team last year. Looking b/t the lines and from the maybe 8 kings games I watched, I thought he showed a lot of improvement in the areas of shot selection and playing off the ball. Obv his outside shot is still poor, and he is not a pure PG, but if other teams see the pluses, then he is worth more than market value.

    The question that remains is whether 11m is high enough that you can convince the kings that they should not play chicken with you. I think it could be, but this is a very dangerous game for both teams. Tyreke would be wisest to take his time and speak with other teams. If he can convince another team to step in there, he can drive up his price/years because SAC will be able to negotiate the two teams against each other. As it stands now, I dont think SAC has the stones to match and what is likely is that some kinda face saving sign and trade is worked out, or maybe a third party steps in because if SAC is demanding Vasquez for Tyreke and I am the Pelicans, I am saying, “ok, sign Evans for 11m.. your franchise is a joke anyways…”

    Scorecard:

    Evans to NO for less than Vasquez-> SAC blinks
    Another team makes an offer sheet to Evans -> SAC and Evans win
    NO, SAC and another team do a deal centered around Evans and Gordon/Vasquez -> Compromise happens through negotiation EVERYONE WINZZZ
    Evans to NO for Gordon or Vasquez -> SAC Wins (I really dont see this happening)

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