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  • #38202
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    13.2 ppg 2.9 rbp 1.6apg

    1. Does Lamb scream First Rounder this year?
    2. Lamb better than Darius Miller?
    3. What draft range do you see Lamb going in?
    4. Lamb a pure SG or combo?
    5. What are his overall weaknesses/holes in his game?
    6. Overrated or Underrated? 

    Feel free to add your own personal comments after questions.

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  • #657874
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    •  Doron Lamb/Daequan Cook?
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  • #657882
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    I think he will be drafted in the 20 to 30 range.

    When it comes to whether he is better to Darius Miller, it depends on what role the team needs to be fufilled. Doron Lamb is better in all facets than Miller on the offensive side of the ball (besides posting up). On the otherside, Darius Miller can do a little bit of everything while Lamb is mainly going to be a guy who can give you points off the bench. Therefore, it really depends on what the team needs are in regards to who is better.

    Lamb is a combo gaurd, which leads to one of his downsides. I just don’t see it probable that he can start in the league since he is not a true point, but lacks the athleticism to gaurd SG’s in the league. But since a team will get him in the late first round, it is just fine if you are getting him to be a quality bench player.

    His biggest strenghts are his shooting, mid-range game, and basketball IQ. His biggest negatives are his lack of athleticism (especially quickness/speed), inconsistant motor, and he is a little one dimensional with him only being able to make a big impact on offense.

    So in conclusion, I think Lamb will be a solid bench player who can give you an offensive spark from the bench. He definitly has the skills to be a contributor, but his lack of speed/athletcism makes him a lower reward pick.

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  • #657880
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    1. Yes he’s a sure First Rounder.

    2. Yes he’s way better than Darius Miller and has a way better upside.

    3. If he has good workouts 15-25.

    4. He’s a combo  like Lou Williams.

    5. Not on the offsenive end he can spot up, come off the dribble, drive to the rim, and a willing passer. But he is undersized so opponents can take advantage of him on the defensive end.

    6. Underrated to me because he’s a sure NBA player that can put up at least 15ppg easy in any system but I guess thats just me.

    I don’t think he will be an All Star but i think he will be in the league for a long time. Like I said he reminds me of a Lou Williams a sure scorer.

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  • #657885
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    1. I think Lamb has pretty much solidified himself as a first rounder this year with his solid play all tournament and big game in the championship. While he’ll unlikely ever be an all star, he should be able to contribute as a role player pretty early and for a long while, provided he continues to improve.

     

    2. Right now, Lamb is better then Darius Miller, and will likely be drafted higher. Who knows what the future holds though.

     

    3. Mid/late first round seems pretty accurate. Anywhere from 18-25 is where I think he’ll most likely be drafted.

     

    4. He’s more of a combo guard, but in a good way. He’ll play SG, but he’s comfortable running an offense when a team needs him to.

     

    5. He’s not super athletic. While solid now, his upside seems limited. He’s a good scorer from mid range-3 point range and can work with or without the ball, but needs to work on some of the other aspects of his game, mainly defense. Not too many huge holes with him though.

     

    6. Neither. He’s been Kentuckys most steady and consistent scoring option, and has been billed as such. However, his contributions are still overshadowed by standout teammates Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and even Marquis Teague at times. He has the least potential of Kentuckys main 5, but seems to be the most consistent. If I had to pick, i’d say slightly undderated.

     

    7. That’s not a horrible comparison, but I think he doesn’t have as good range as Cook. However, Cook is mostly a spot up shooter and is limited when working with the ball, while Lamb can do both and has better mid range game. I was thinking a little more like Randy Foye, a 6’4 combo guard who fills whatever role his team needs at that time.

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  • #657887
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    I would compare him to cuttino mobley as a player

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  • #657893
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    i would say that if the cavs dont draft brad beal with their first pick then theres no way they pass up on lamb with that 26th. dont see him falling that far but he definitely wont go second round. hard to say whos gonna have a better career between him and miller. they both could end up being busts but then again they could both end up being really good players. both fill a role very well. 

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  • #657894
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     He just seems like he would be a perfect third guard/6th man type.. He can play the 1 and 2…..  

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  • #657895
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    13.2 ppg 2.9 rbp 1.6apg

    Does Lamb scream First Rounder this year?

    No, to me he screams solid role player, and I think that is on the edge of becoming a second rounder… That said he’s going in the first round..

    Lamb better than Darius Miller?

    Currently yes, he’s very polished. But with his size and skill set I feel Darius Miller fits in better to a NBA team in the long run.

    What draft range do you see Lamb going in?

    Mid to late first round… thinking in the area 15-25.. any later than that it could be a steal, any earlier than that is a definite reach..

    Lamb a pure SG or combo?

    I have to view him as a combo guard, he has PG experience and was effective in that role.. This year he was really effective off the ball..

    What are his overall weaknesses/holes in his game?

    He has a very well rounded game, but I question his ability to finish at the rim against NBA athletes. Then again that isn’t exactly essential to his game..

    Overrated or Underrated?

    I think he’s rated just about right at the moment…

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    • #658058
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      Might want to check out first rounders, most are role players not stars. People on he seem to forget that. Out side of the top three everyone else ends up being role players for the most part

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    but he’s a 6’4ish shooting guard with no handles or pg instincts that can’t penetrate. Finishing at the rim and penetration may be the only thing besides size that can’t be taught. Added that the guy is also not a top notch athlete, but is a sure first rounder. Albeit he will go at the latest very early 2nd round but he probably should not be a sure first rounder in any draft. The funny thing is its a very deep draft but it tails off by 21  or 22. I think the drop is drastic. He can shoot the lights out. One of the best shooters in the draft, maybe even the best in terms of consistancy at this point in all their young careers. Will Buford is similar but bigger and suprisingly not a 1rst round lock.

    I ‘m not a fan of ball control shooting guards that can’t finish or drive. Lamb may be Trajon Langdon. He might be good and I’m not totally down on him but how many 20-30th 1rst round picks avg 15 in any system, as suggested above.C’mon man

    He doesn’t have the width or girth Lou Williams has which allows him to dribble with a guy on his hip. The NBA Dequan Cook is a good example, because the college Cook could do everything. He had crazy penetrating skills before Matta handcuffed him, only letting Conley handle the ball (which turned out pretty smart, but still). He was a willing and able rebounder with hops but a knee injury and trying to be cute helped him choose the life or a spot up shooter.

    P.S. I hate when guys give up there athleticism because some scout told them they cant shoot. Dequan Cook could have been as good as Quentin Richardson could have been but chose to be hopefully as good as Quentin Richardson actually turned out. What a waste. If I was a elite combo guard I would only go to a school that promised me I could play point guard. You can always learn how to stand in a corner and wait for a player that can penetrate to throw you the ball. But it seems like once these guys give up ball handling playing the wing in college they completely lose ball handling instincts.

     

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     "P.S. I hate when guys give up there athleticism because some scout told them they cant shoot. Dequan Cook could have been as good as Quentin Richardson could have been but chose to be hopefully as good as Quentin Richardson actually turned out. What a waste. If I was a elite combo guard I would only go to a school that promised me I could play point guard. You can always learn how to stand in a corner and wait for a player that can penetrate to throw you the ball. But it seems like once these guys give up ball handling playing the wing in college they completely lose ball handling instincts."-DeezNutz

    I still Love Daequan but I have to admit he is a tragedy now, because he gave up on HIMSELF.

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     "P.S. I hate when guys give up there athleticism because some scout told them they cant shoot. Dequan Cook could have been as good as Quentin Richardson could have been but chose to be hopefully as good as Quentin Richardson actually turned out. What a waste. If I was a elite combo guard I would only go to a school that promised me I could play point guard. You can always learn how to stand in a corner and wait for a player that can penetrate to throw you the ball. But it seems like once these guys give up ball handling playing the wing in college they completely lose ball handling instincts."-DeezNutz

    I still Love Daequan but I have to admit he is a tragedy now, because he gave up on HIMSELF.

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  • #657942
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    He is a second rounder. Small to me. Good shooter but I don’t see PG skills at all. I think he gets punished on D. I like him but he will be a bench shooter. 15 a game I just don’t see. Maybe on a bad team. Does not have Avery Bradley strength or athleticsm yet will be forced to play a similar role. A good three point shooter and nothing else in the L. Not even a bad gig for him IMO.

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  • #658016
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     I do not like him at all only strength is shooting will not score even 1000 points in the NBA before he is gone.  Darius Miller is solid, Bobby Simmons type

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  • #658042
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    but I aint arguing with you. 12,2, and 1, how does that translate to the league for a sophmore who had serious character issues as a freshman and a terrible defender that is under sized. His 3 and mid range stroke is great though.

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    Does Lamb scream First Rounder this year?

    • He doesn’t scream first-rounder, he could be a late-first rounder but doesn’t necessarily have it on lock.

    Lamb better than Darius Miller?

    • Yes he’s better than Darius Miller.  Darius Miller is the ultimate glue guy and is going to make a team really happy when he gets to the league (think James Posey) but Doron Lamb can be a 6th-man on some decent teams.  (Basement: Taller Boobie Gibson.  Floor: Jodie Meeks.  Ceiling: Jason Terry)

    What draft range do you see Lamb going in?

    • Early first – late second

    Lamb a pure SG or combo?

    • Combo guard.  He didn’t show too much passing ability (played with Knight and Teague) but has decent speed and quickness to play some PG in the league.  Not to mention he has the length to play SG, at only 6’4, his 6’7 – 6’8 wingspan will really help him cover bigger 2-guards in the league.  He can play both positions although I believe he can play SG more effectively.

    What are his overall weaknesses/holes in his game?

    • I don’t think he’ll be able to create for himself in the leauge because of the combination of lack of elite athleticism, lack of size, and lack of strength.  Usually players can get away with lacking one of the three, hell sometimes they can get away with lacking two if the third is strong enough but he doesn’t have any.  That doesn’t matter though, he’s going to make his paycheck playing off-ball.  (Again, think Jason Terry)

    Overrated or Underrated?

    • I think the jury is still out on him.  Nobody is really expecting him to be a Jason Terry type of guy and people think comparing him to Boobie Gibson is too low.  He’s never really been a top-2 scoring option in his two years in college.  We’re not exactly sure what he can do if he plays the PG position full-time and we don’t exactly know what kind of player he is when he’s the #1 option either.

     

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  • #658060
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    1. Does Lamb scream First Rounder this year?

    Dont think so. sure he’s currently projected as a first rounder in most drafts, as do i in mine, but he’s really a bubble first to early second pick. when the combine and work-outs come, it could affect his stock since those are not his strong suits.

          2. Lamb better than Darius Miller?

    like what most people said, depends on what you want. there are certain areas that one is better than the other one. but over-all, i believe lamb is better because he is younger and already more consistent. i also believe that lamb has a higher basement than darius miller. at worse, lamb turns into wayne ellington, darius miller can be jawad williams. one is easier to stick around in the league due to his specialization skill, while the other can be found in a lot of D-League hopefull willing to make it in the league if told to hustle with the simillar physique.

          3. What draft range do you see Lamb going in?

    earliest possible is the hawks in my oppinon at 20, latest could be toronto at 36. i feel either toronto or cleveland would be the most interested in selecting him, and the one who doesnt get beal will be more inclined to do so.

          4. Lamb a pure SG or combo?

    i see him as a pure shooting guard. not saying he cant handle spot minutes at the one spot, though doubt he’ll get more than a couple of touches in that regard, but he is really a pure shooting guard that could handle some point if asked due to his understanding of team play and ball movement. i mean, would you consider Ray Allen a combo guard just because he’s playing back-up point guard to Rondo? He’s still a pure shooting guard who just has a high enough basketball IQ to know what to do with the ball.

          5. What are his overall weaknesses/holes in his game?

    holes in his current game? well his lack  of physical attributes have already been stated in this thread. i suppose he could still be a better defender with his knowledge of the game. also, he can work on his ball handling so that he can be crafty at attacking the rim like Brandon Roy did. its not always about speed. a tony parkeresque tear drop would help him in the league a lot.

           6. Overrated or Underrated?

    Id say he has a balance of people who acknowledge him and show an optimistic projection as well as a pessimistic one. so right now, he’s kind of just there rated justly because the general public hasnt leaned on one side really.

     

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  • #658061
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     I love how people bash players like Lamb, but then go crazy when players like George Hill and Gary Neal come from no where and play well. Lamb is a decent athlete who shot almost 50% from three his two years in college, and showed he was a cappable offensive player. At worst he’s going to be a good shooter, why wouldn’t someone draft him late in hte 1st? If a team like the Thunder were to draft him then that would be a nice place to land.

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