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  • #3197
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    billyk
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    This years lottery selection sucks I feel sorry for any team that has to draft in the lottery I dont see a franchise type player (either than maybe BGriffin)

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  • #141943
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    Hoop FreakZ
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    You are absolutely right, looking at possible lottery picks there are no franchise-type players available besides Griffin. but on the other note i see a lot of players that could play an important role as great second options (almost equlivant to a sidekick) for teams franchise-type players (think a scottie-pippen sidekick to some teams franchise player)

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  • #141949
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    BigBadBoogie
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    Uh, Thabeet is a franchise player along with Harden and maybe Bjennings.

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  • #141954
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    redford4three
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    For Thabeet to be a franchise player he needs to mature more. I see him as a pretty good player because of the fact that many of the great NBA centers are getting older, like Shaq and Duncan. Harden needs to learn how to go right before he becomes an NBA all star. I love his potential and I think that he will develop his game alot more once a team drafts him. I believe that Blake will be a franchise type player. And there are many sleepers in the draft that you never know about.(Derozan is very athletic and could be a great player) Aminu is a great player too but he is so young it will take him a couple years to develop. I totally agree that this year would be a bad year to get a lottery pick. It all comes down to those sleepers in the late first/second round. AKA Sam Young/Jodie Meeks/Terence WIlliams. Next year is the real year to get a lottery pick. It could be one of the best drafts since LBJ,Wade.

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  • #141955
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    bobbygiller

    While Thabeet is a great defensive player he has no offensive game whatsoever. He virtually scores all of his points off of alley-oops and put-back dunks (Tyson Chandler anyone?) which will not come as easily in the NBA. While I believe he will be a game-changer on the defensive end it’s hard to see him being referred to as a “franchise player”, however, he has not been playing basketball for that long and still has plenty of room to develop. Jennings is a tough player to gauge solely on the fact that none of us have seen him play all that much, Harden on the other hand has shown his abilities day-in and day-out. He is a potential 1st Team All-American and has a real old-school game. Harden also contributes in every category and for someone who can score 20+ points a night he always looks for teammates and is a great passer. He is not normally recognized as an elite athlete, however, his game and production greatly resembles a Brandon Roy/ Paul Pierce type.

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  • #141964
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    los507
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    I agree there aren’t many Franchise guys out there, but there are some good pieces out there.Harden is a good player that could develop into a good player.Jennings if he works hard at his weaknesses can be a pretty good player RGiller you’re on the money with this guy because it is hard to say will he be a stud or a decent player.Think he will be better than Telfair. Teams will just have to draft smarter than usual this year and they can find some real gyms. GM’s are going to have to really earn they’re keep this offseason.

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  • #141965
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    BigBadBoogie
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    Well what else do you expect a 7 foot 3 center to do besides dunk and do some tip dunks just look at dwight, Thabeet may be a little bit weaker and not as developed but with his length I see him being a dominant post player defensively and offensively. He already has all the aspects of a good defensive game, so he just needs to focus on his offensive game. I like his attitude about it though “I dunk everything that I get my hands on” Thabeet from ESPN the mag.

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  • #141966
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    BigBadBoogie
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    I like Harden as more of a Manu type of player other then a B Roy and Pierce.

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  • #141971
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    jorrye24

    The only stars from this class will be:Jennings,Jonny Flynn,and probably Blake Griffin. Harden will be like Mardy Collins, Thabeet will be like Saer Sene. Harden is slow, but in the best case he could be like a paul pierce,which is a huge difference in playing level than collins. I have seen jennings play, my aau team played against him head to head and I know for a fact he will be a star in the league, bar none. He can make any pass in the book and get into the lane whenever he wants. And just look at the thabeet and flynn articles for a more verbalized opinion on them.

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  • #141972
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    James-Harden-13
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    yeah make sure everyone goes back in the archives to see what jorrye wrote about thabeet and flynn because it is the gospel. the kid has as firm of a grasp on the nba as any 13 year old executive/scout since donnie walsh. god you are annoying.

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  • #141985
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    BRoy-7

    No possible franchise player in there besides Griffin. Harden is great but needs to build on his jumper and become quicker. After that its a toss up, Thabeet could turn into a great defensive player but not an all-round great. The rest are role players or solid/average starters. Maybe someone will boom and suprise people but only time will tell…

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  • #141999
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    bobbygiller

    Hey los507, thanks for the shout-out man, it’s good to see not everyone on here is out to bash everyone else’s opinions.

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  • #142000
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    James-Harden-13
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    i completely agree, i only point out when people are guilty of bashing others opinions. which a lot of people on here do. none of us are experts, we are all fans, and that is what makes this fun, but there are some on here that feel otherwise.

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  • #142004
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    deuce4off

    I agree the lottery this year may not be spectacular, but I would note that it appears that the depth of the draft this year is fairly deeper than it has been in the past. Teams drafting from 22-36 have a really good chance to find a potential stud. Maybe no perenial all-stars, but maybe 2 or 3 players like a Josh Howard or a Millsap, even a Michael Redd who slipped in the draft and have had success in their career.

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  • #142027
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    jorrye24

    If im 13 years old why do you keep commenting after everything I say? Its a contradiction of what your saying because your acting like a 13 year old. I dont have the same opinion with you on everything, and thats ok. If I said something to you on one of these posts my bad but man, you gon keep on commenting EVERYTHING I say?? Give it a rest shawty.

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  • #142030
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    redford4three
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    If i had a choice, (besides being number 1 in 2010 draft) I would want to be later in the draft and get all the second round picks I could. Some of the best rookies next year will for sure be from the second round. Wesley Matthews, Terence Williams, JODIE MEEKS, Dante Cunningham, Danny Green, Dionte Christmas. I mean when I am looking at these names, I feel like they are better than alot of the first round picks. Is this serious that Tyler Hansbrough is going to be a better NBA player than Terence Williams, or Meeks, or Christmas? I say NO. And with Maynor, I know he is a good point guard and all but I am not a fan of drafting a player who never plays against anyone during the season. That is one horrible conference, which correct me if I am wrong VCU is not even winning. And again I know that he did beat Duke in the NCAA but wow that was one of their worst years and I have not really heard his name since. Chase Budinger, what can I say. I may be biased just because I hate him so much, but I think that Dante Cunningham and all the previous players mentioned are better than him. It would be a shame for a team to pick him in the lottery over a much better player like Sam Young. Robert Vaden is someone that a team should want because he is a Great 3 point shooter and no team can get too many. BJ Mullens should stay in school. The fact that he does not start should give him a clue but its all about the money for him. He could be a good player, and for a big guy he does have some mad skill. Gani Lawal is going to be an average NBA player. He should DEFINETLY stay at school to play with Mfon Udofia and Derrick Favors because then he would have a much higher ranking after playing with them. And I know it is a known fact now to not come out next year because you have to be one hell of a player to be picked high because the talent is so good. But he is a sophmore so he has got time.

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  • #142043
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    gberg23

    I would just like to say that it is a pretty poor observation to make about him when you played him in AAU. He was one of the top few players in his high school class, and I would hope he could put up numbers against another AAU team, especially since you are saying he will dominate in the NBA. If you had played against any of these other players you would be saying the same thing about them because they are much better then the rest of the high school competition as well.

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  • #142116
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    jorrye24

    Yea it probably isn’t the most exact way of choosing whether or not he will be a successful pro athlete but he also was dominant in the all star tournaments (even though there isn’t much true fundamental defense played) and he more than likely wouldve been the best frosh in the nation had he gone to arizona.everybody said they hadn’t seen him play a lot but I was on the floor with him so I’ve seen him play first hand.to me he is the real deal.

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  • #142118
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    jorrye24

    Yea it probably isn’t the most exact way of choosing whether or not he will be a successful pro athlete but he also was dominant in the all star tournaments (even though there isn’t much true fundamental defense played) and he more than likely wouldve been the best frosh in the nation had he gone to arizona.everybody said they hadn’t seen him play a lot but I was on the floor with him so I’ve seen him play first hand.to me he is the real deal.

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  • #142146
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    gberg23

    That must have been exciting to play against such a dynamic high school athlete. I play AAU but in a worse bracket becuase in all honesty I’m not that good but playing against a player of Jennings caliber must have been really fun.

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  • #142199
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    LarryDaTruBirdman
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    B. Jennings and Harden will not be superstars.

    Thabeet and Griffin could be something special

    Rubio has some potential but may be a bust

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  • #142202
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    redford4three
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    Please GandG think before typing. First you think that a Duke player will be a sleeper and now your hatin on James Harden of all people. He only has one weakness that will prevent him from being an All Star and that is he has trouble going right. But I am pretty sure that after training with an NBA team he will be able to go right with the best of them. Jennings will be a beast also. And they will both be better than Thabeet. Thabeet can’t score all he can do is rebound and block shots which will not cut it in the NBA, while Harden and Jennings can score and pass and handle the ball, all of which NBA all stars have… SO you tell me what tells you that Harden and Jennings will not be allstars while Thabeet will? and i dont want to hear that you just think so because that is BS.

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  • #142203
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    WildDude
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    I see James Harden doing better than anyone else… dont laugh but he does make everyone around him better, without him Arizona State loses all of their games

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