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  • #3622
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    Mr. Basketball
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    Eric Gordon is better than OJ Mayo. I don’t get why everyone claims mayo to be better. Is it the ESPN hype machine that makes u think that? Eric Gordon is led all rookies in scoring at just over 21 points a game from January to April (4 months). However, Mayo is leading the rookies in scoring due to starting right away. Gordon however, did not make his first start until November 24, in which he scored 25 pts in 36 minutes on 9 of 18 shooting. Gordon shot a better percentage in field goals and on 3s this season then mayo ,+ he averaged 4 less minutes than mayo. Gordon can do more on the court bcuz of his better shot, and stronger build (222 lbs) than mayo. had gordon had mayo minutes from day 1 and had played in lets say new york, then he would have won the ROY.

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  • #146275
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    mbunner23
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    I wouldn’t say that Gordon has a better shot than Mayo. Also Mayo has had 30 point games numerous times this year. IMHO I believe Mayo is better than Gordon.

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  • #146278
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    Bradfoms
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    Gordon has also had a few 30 point games, and also had a season high for rookies when he dropped 41. I’m not sure why he didn’t get minutes right away, but I don’t know about ROY, only because Rose has the Bulls in the playoffs, so even if his individual numbers aren’t as good, he’ll get the nod simply due to team success (though I don’t agree with this approach, since the BUlls were only in playoff contention after their masterful dealing at the trade deadline). However, I think these two (Mayo and Gordon) are going to be battling each other for years to come, and its going to be fantastic to watch. Don’t be surprised if both of these guys average at least 20 ppg next year, probably more, and lead their respective teams in scoring.

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  • #146281
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    I think what seperates Mayo and Gordon is defense, from my prespective Mayo seems to be a better defensive player offensively I think they are pretty much even. They are both good players though…

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  • #146283
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    yungsaint89
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    Gordon has a more explosive first step and better finishing ability than Mayo. Mayo has better court vision and defensive abilities than Gordon. IMO, Gordon has more long-term potential than Mayo.

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  • #146287
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    gift2basketball
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    Oj Mayo is better

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    • #146297
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      Gordon is really good defensively. Everyone talks about mayo’s D, but Gordon’s is right up there with mayo’s D. He has really long arms which make his D very good even tho he is only 6 foot 3. Gordon did really well vs. Kobe this year also. He didn’t score that much on them. Even in the last matchup when it was a 3 pt victory by the lakers, kobe only had 18pts on 5 of 15 shooting vs. Gordon. Gordon had 24 pts 8 rbs and 4 ast vs. Kobe. Kobe after the game said that there was no way he was letting Gordon get the ball on the last play of the game showing how much he respects Gordon.

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  • #146295
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    dsal

    Mayo is way better stop the hating

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  • #146301
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    Al-Farouq Aminu
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    Gordon does not do almost anything besides scoring, that’s why people call him Ben Gordon..

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    • #146305
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      crispcounty
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      I agree with kxkx08! What does eric gordon bring to the table outside of scoring. Mayo is definitely a more complete basketball player than gordon. His basketball IQ is far superior than that of Gordon’s as well

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  • #146310
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    rsckease60we
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    mayo is better

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  • #146312
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    benz0
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    Mayo can play a little point too. He’s a better ball-handler and passer than Gordon is, although it leads to some turnovers at times. Mayo is definitely more complete.

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  • #146321
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    sheltwon3
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    Gordon is the better 2 guard. Mayo is the better all around player. This debate depends on what you value will continue. Gordon is stronger and more athletic than Mayo. Mayo is more polished but Gordon is the better perimeter shooter while Mayo is the more polished scorer. Also it is hard to gauge because Gordon has more talented teammates than Mayo but Mayo has a better team.

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  • #146323
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    auber
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    Mayo is a combo guard. Something Eric GGordon will never be at the nba level. I just seing Gordon eventually hitting a ceiling in the nba where as mayos futures been ahead of him for years. Gordon will be very solid nba 2 guard, but I honestly see mayo’s game being multideminsonal and blossoming into a mvp type player with all star and possible hall of fame consideration. I know I’m rushing the gun, but sometimes people just have it and I think he’s one of those kids.

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  • #146328
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    Mayo has better playmaking ability and ball handling skills and is more refined overall but I think Gordon is still adding things to his repitoire.(sp) I think both will be good number 2 options in their prime, but I heard Mayo wants full time point guard duties.

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  • #146338
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    sb13
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    if you look, mayo is better than gordon in every single statistic, only difference is .3 blocks by mayo to .4 blocks by gordan, and around a 1 percent difference in 3 point shooting percentage. mayo is better. he has better one on one skills, can play the 1 (pg) which gordon for sure cant, and has a better natural feel for the game. yes gordon is strong, lol he has that baron davis type of body which has no body definition what so ever. i think in terms of long term prospect, it is really close. i want to see what gordon can do without baron davis on the team. i think his stats will jump off the charts

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  • #146340
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    Tim49461
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    Ok I love both the players but look a simple break down

    Ball handling
    Gordon < Mayo

    Shooting
    Gordon = Mayo

    Passing
    Gordon < Mayo

    Defense
    Gordon < Mayo

    Height
    Gordon < mayo

    Ability to Play their position (both are suppose to be PG's gordon is only 6'2 look it up)
    Gordon < Mayo

    Leagues Take on Both players ( Players who played against them)
    Gordon < Mayo

    What more do you want? There was a reason Mayo was hyped since 7th grade the kid has been playing against NBA players since 10th grade. He has mroe experience then gordon.

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    • #146343
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      Ball handling
      Gordon mayo) mayo is streaky, gordon is not, gordon shoots 2% better how can u say their equal?

      Passing
      Gordon < Mayo (not by much, people underrate gordon's playmaking abilities a lot, he is a really good playmaker, but it is overshadowed by his scoring).

      Defense
      Gordon < Mayo (gordon=mayo) again, people don't talk about Gordon's D like they do with mayo's so everyone just assumes his D is not that great. Watch him play D b4 u decide this one. Once again he held kobe to 5 of 15 shooting and 18 pts.

      Height
      Gordon < mayo (if ur going to do height u might as well do strength, which u didn't do just so u could try and prove ur point…)

      Ability to Play their position: both are suppose to be PG's gordon is only 6'2 look it up
      Gordon < Mayo

      (gordon is a legit 6 foot 3 and he is not supposed to be a pg, he is a sg. If u have long arms like gordon than u can play sg at 6 foot 3. Why play pg when u are better a the 2 and have an "all star" pg on ur roster. Mayo plays the 2, i don't where this mayo is a pg crap came from, he has always been a 2, NBA and college and being a high school pg does not mean anything.)

      Leagues Take on Both players: Players who played against them
      Gordon Mayo) (1. u didn’t even back it up. 2. alvin gentry called him “the best new talent in the NBA” and said “i don’t care who else you mention, he is the best new talent in the NBA.” Then, Stephen Jackson said “He’s a future franchise player.” Kobe then talked about how good he was after their match up with the clips and said “there was no way i was going to let him get the ball on the last play of the game.”)

      What more do you want? There was a reason Mayo was hyped since 7th grade the kid has been playing against NBA players since 10th grade. He has mroe experience then gordon.

      (hype means nothing until u live up to it. Mayo is not there yet. Gordon has played AAU also, everyone in the nba has, well most have. He played on Greg Oden’s AAU team. Hype doesn’t mean experience.)

      Also, Gordon destroyed, and yes destroyed Mayo in their matchup in Memphis last time. Gordon had 23 pts on 6 of 10 shooting – he did not miss a shot till mid way thru the 3rd quarter. Mayo on the other hand had 10 pts on 3 of 9 shooting – he had 4 pts up until the final minutes of the game which was garbage time and gordon was not on him. Not only did gordon outplay mayo on offense, but he outplayed him on D.

      O and gordon is 1 year younger. Plus, gordon’s stats at mayo’s minutes are almost identical or better than mayo’s. Mayo’s more minutes = better stats. Gordon had just as good of a season, don’t be fooled. Gordon is a complete player. He is a great shooter scorer, defender, playmaker, and rebounder (his stats would be the same if he had the same minutes, which he would have had if had started early on, plus he is 2 inches shorter).

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  • #146350
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    Bradfoms
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    Both are great young talents, and I think its too hard to say who is better. But one thing is for sure, they won’t be second options, or just “solid” players. We’re looking at two future all-stars here, and you can bet any NBA coach will tell you the same. Dave McMenamin, who does the rookie rankings on NBA.com has Mayo as the ROY runner up, and says “in three years from now, Gordon will be one of the top five scorers in the league and the cornerstone of the franchise”. Trust me, these two are just getting started, and I for one am excited.

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    • #146354
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      Mr. Basketball
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      What if one of those teams gets blake griffin, will he be the 2nd option?

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  • #146359
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    KATASTROPHE
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    Gordon reminds me of a shorter version of Mitch Richmond. Although clippers made some good points I would still take Mayo over Gordon. I like Mayo’s game….

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  • #146362
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    michaelds911
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    Clippers has once again taken the words out of my mouth lol….Gordon is better period. His shot is on par with the NBA’s best, but he also has that crazy athleticism and skills to do other things…The only thing that Mayo has better in my opinion is passing….Just wait until a year or two when he is pouring in 23-26 ppg, 4 reb and 4 assist, then you will understand why he is better.

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  • #146368
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    Masrock

    Both will be All-Stars at some point. Neither one will be an all-time great.

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  • #146370
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    michaelds911
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    Nobody said they would be all-time greats…You said just all-stars like it was a bad thing lol. I mean there is only like 4-5 all-time greats that come around each decade anyway.

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  • #146374
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    Masrock

    I didn’t say it like it was a bad thing. I just get the vibe that some people here actually do believe that they will be all-time greats. Like the guy who said that about Mayo, for example. Which is something I disagree with.

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  • #146376
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    michaelds911
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    I feel the same

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  • #146404
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    sheltwon3
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    I also believe that it is too early to judge based on a rookie’s first year. Everyone does not get the same minutes and also some people develop slower. I believe clippers got a great player in Gordon and with a full year playing 30 plus minutes he could put up 20 + points at close to 50% shooting. I believe Mayo will be a more all around player and that is his team needs. Clippers need Gordon to score and get to the line and he does that as well as play some decent D for a young player. I am more anxious to see how they will be next year when the day can work on their mistakes from this year. Look at what Durant did in only one year. he improve on everything and became a more effiecient score and even improve on defense. He gets to the line more. I mean he went from great talent to star status. Beastley will make a jump like that too especially if he improves his D.

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  • #146430
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    you know i cant really decide..i think with this there isnt really a wrong answer..or its very very close kinda like chris paul and deron williams debate

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  • #146447
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    I highly disagree with the notion that Eric Gordon has more long term potential than Mayo. Mayo is going to be a big PG in the mold of Chauncey Billups. Eric Gordon is going to be a super-scoring, undersized 2 and nothing more; a rich man’s Ben Gordon.

    Which would you rather have if you were building a team? A big point guard who will be one of the best scorers in the NBA as well as a great defender, or an undersized scoring machine who brings nothing else to the table? If you were smart, you would easily choose Mayo.

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    • #146456
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      why the hell does everyone put mayo over gordon saying that mayo is a pg gordon can’t do anything but score and is undersized? Mayo does not even play the point and i don’t see him doing that in the near future. He will be more of a than a 1 is whole career. And about the gordon can’t do much other than score: read the post i made about what he can do besides score b4 u say he can’t do anything but score. There is no doubt in my mind that u have AT MOST only seen gordon 5 times in the nba.

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      • #146462
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        ive seen gordan less than 5 times and each time i came away impressed…potentially though i have to give the edge to mayo the more i think about it because of the simple fact mayo can play some spot point which give him the potential to move over to the point guard spot…i dont think he ever will because hes such a great scorer but it reminds me of when chauncy billups first came into the leauge and he was a player who could score but could also play spot pg duties,…also i give it to mayo because of the things tim grover and other nba players that worked out with him said before the draft..each said that he was the hardest worker in the draft and one of the hardest worker they had ever seen..now most players i think work hard int he nba but the fact tim grover ( trains alot of nba player most noteably the great mj) said that mayo has that it factor as far as working to get better im not saying gordan wont work hard and get better but i think that fact and mayos ability to play spot pg gives him the edge..as far as eric being a ben clone …i can see that ..im thinking along the lines of mitch richmond though

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  • #146465
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    Mr. Basketball
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    gordon has played some effective point for those of u on here who have not watched the clippers much (everyone but me, i think). he is the best playmaker on the clips (i hate baron now so i give gordon the edge over him, he passes a lot more so…). b4 making these claims that he can’t do much other than score and shoot, watch him.

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  • #146474
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    just talked to a couple of my friends who watch clipper games they say gordan cant play point..he can bring the ball up and make a good pass from time to time but hes no point guard by any stretch of the imagination….but thats something i already knew from watching his games at indiana..hes is a great scorer though..but you arent gonna convince me he can be a point guard..actually after going to different chat rooms and talking to other who have seen his game and just listening to commentators talk about him no one else thinks he can be a point guard which doesnt matter since he is a shooting guard

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  • #146475
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    Mr. Basketball
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    ya i know. all i was saying was that he can play an effective point when the team is without pgs. He is a very underrated passer/playmaker. Also, if u watched the rookie sophomore game u should have seen how much better EJ did than Mayo in the game.

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  • #146477
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    i just dont think either player is clearly better then the other..and there definatly isnt any proof of it being clear cut in any of the stats

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  • #146493
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    michaelds911
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    Sometimes I think Gordon is to passive. I want him to take it to the cup everytime down lol, because I know not many people is ready for that lethal first step.

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  • #146496
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    clippers, you are a homer. Any non-biased smart basketball fan would not say Gordan can play PG, because they know this is not true. You say he can play PG. Do you catch my drift?

    Also, I am guessing that you only like, watch, and follow the Clippers, therefore you overvalue the whole Clippers roster. This happens all the time with homers.

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    • #146499
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      uhh no, im not a homer. i didn’t say gordon can be a pg, i said he can play pg in spurts because i have seen him do it.

      And, ur guess is wrong. I watch and follow all teams. (fantasy b-ball + lottery standings + playoff standings). Ask me about any clipper, i don’t overvalue them.

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  • #146501
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    i must say clippers has made some very good points. & i’ll add that if the Grizzlies think they can make Mayo into their full time point guard they will suffer for it. having a shoot first point guard is a risky proposition. he’s a 2 who can spell your 1 for stretches. lets evaluate him as such. i think we all might have been guilty of being seduced by the OJ Mayo hype machine at some point. but if I had never seen either one play until this season, i might prefer Gordon. he is just flat more explosive & thats what i want to see from my 2 guard. Gordon CAN pass. dont get caught thinking he cant. he CAN make plays. he cant pass or make plays with quite the effectiveness of Mayo, but his first step quickness, long arms, and explosiveness give him the edge for me. the greats tend to have that elite athleticism so i think Gordon has a better chance of being great, although i doubt either one will reach that level. it also depends on your team needs. if you already have a proven scorer you might prefer Mayo, because he can facilitate some, but if you need a go-to-guy i’d take Gordon. but thats just me!

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  • #146502
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    Good point Alphamale310. People let’s not argue for the sake of arguing. Right now it is hard to say which is better especially since their games are so different. I will say this though if Gordans grows an inch and a half since he is still pretty young, down the road I would lean towards him. Also Conley is a pass first point guard and I don’t see him being replaced by OJ Mayo when they need someone like Conley to get both Gay and Mayo the ball and not take from their shots.

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  • #146506
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    Ht ht. w/ shoes wt wingspan reach body fat vert max vert bench ln agility 3/4 sprint

    Mayo 6′ 3.25″ 6′ 4.25″ 200 6′ 6″ 8′ 3.5″ 6.3 30.5 41.0 7 11.04 3.14

    Gordon 6′ 2″ 6′ 3.25″ 222 6′ 9″ 8′ 3″ 8.2 32.0 40.0 15 10.81 3 01

    for comparison’s sake…

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    • #147269
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      crispcounty
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      Thanks alpamale31, after reading this blog i was about to pull the same thing up from draftexpress. I agree that it is hard to say who clearly is going to be better or who is better, however, i read throughout the blog about how much more explosive gordan is than mayo, but looking at the numbers from the pre-draft camp, i can’t see how one can say that besides those guys approach the game differently. I mean some guys loves to flaunt their athleticism & some don’t. mike conley jr & jordan farmar are two great examples of this b/c they entered the pre-draft camps as “supposedly” average athletes at best then tested out as outstanding athletes

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  • #237322
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    quincey hodges

    seems there teams have the same record and there stats mirror each other

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  • #237335
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    Mayo has picked up his play as of late and their stats do mirror each others, but don’t forget… Gordon missed quite a few games with the groin injury and then one or two with the hamstring injury. If not for those injuries, I think the Clippers have a better record than the Grizzlies and Gordon has way better numbers.

    Gordon also edged Mayo in both of their matchups this year… The second matchup being won convincingly.

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  • #237339
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    Eric Gordon is way better then O.J. Mayo…O.J. has a cute story playing varsity as a middle schooler..impressive, but he plays no defense…both can score the ball but the one who plays better defense is the better pro…Gordon

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  • #237348
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    The proof is in the pudding. Just watch the highlights from the last game the faced head to head… EJ destroyed Mayo in every facet. It wasn’t even close. EJ locked Mayo up on defense and blew by/through him consistently on offense. Mayo wants none of EJ.

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  • #237352
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    In my opinion, this might be the worst debate/rivalry on the whole forum. So tedious and it just seems neither side will come to any sort of conclusion…

    For the record Gordon is much better haha!

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  • #237361
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    Lol true. If you look at their head to head matchups… Gordon is leading. Not to mention he dominated Mayo at both ends once last season and once again this season.

    People talk about all the hype Mayo had in high school, but a lot of people aren’t thinking about the fact that Gordon (Rose did too) jumped Mayo in rankings their senior years on a lot of recruiting websites. Rivals had Gordon ranked as the 2nd best prospect behind Beasley.

    Honestly… I knew Gordon was going to the NBA when he was in 5th grade. He moved up THREE grades to play for my brother’s AAU team in the AAU National Tournament in Orlando. He played well the entire tournament and held his own against Louis Williams, Monta Ellis and MANY others. They ended up making it to the finals and played against the Dallas Mustangs (Byron Eaton, Austin Jackson and a bunch of other REALLY solid players). Gordon started point guard and he literally was the best point guard on the floor. He had unlimited range, good strength and unshakable confidence… As a TEN year old. I said to myself… “If he grows, he’s going to the NBA.” I went to college to play ball and didn’t see him for a couple of summers… I came back one summer and ran into him at North Central High School. He’d grown to 6′ 2″. I said to myself “Uh oh…” lol.

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  • #237363
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    JNixon
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    Yea Gordon outplays him head-to-head right now every time…I do think Mayo is the better player if you want a championship type player though, idk why, he just gives me that feel that he’s a player that can be a key player on a title team, but Gordon can prove me wrong on that. I wouldn’t mind if he did, I like Mayo and Gordon as up and coming elite players.

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