[BlackMamba24Participant]

Who is the one player you do not want the hawks to draft at #19

[akintuParticipant]

Tyler Hansbrough….hands down, don’t want this guy ANYWHERE near the city of Atlanta…
here’s what I wrote in response to a recent AJC.com blog about drafting Psycho T as they call him

We are missing the boat again……….we draft a 4 when we have 3 people in the starting line up (well maybe two…I often exagerate) who’s best position is probably the 4 when we have other glaring needs….it makes absolutely no sense…..If the hawks are really looking to move Marvin (I think this is a bad move BTW) then I think DeJuan Summers is a smart pick because Joah can’t play the 3, he can’t shoot and isn’t a good enough on ball defender.

the only way we should draft a 2 is if we move JJ (I think we should move him, but that probably won’t happen). If we move Josh then we could draft a 4 or better yet move Al “could be an all-star PF” Horford to the 4 and between the draft and FA find a legit 5 that can fill out the line up.

lastly I think we should let Bibby walk so in reality taking anything other than a PG who can start in the NBA is a mistake!!!

[Johnny_HazeltineParticipant]

We’d better hope Sund and his staff do their research because the #19 spot has really never been a position to get great talent. If Tyler Hansbrough is going to be a ten-year vet, then that is probably better than 95% of the players drafted after him, so I’d be okay with it. We need to add depth to our front court, anyway.

Personally, I don’t want Jeff Teague. He’s a 2 masquerading as a 1 for this draft. He’s a right-handed Acie Law. I’ll pass on Teague for Hansbrough. Now, the guy I want is Ty Lawson. He’s efficient. Very efficient. That’s exactly the type of PG the Hawks need for the future.

[denver187Participant]

I’m a Pistons fan, but I also like the Atlanta Hawks. I also think Jeff Teague would be the worst selection at this point. Personaly, I like Maynor a lot better because he really can create his own shot and can make that shot. Teague is a very streaky shooter and although he is a slasher, he doesn’t convert on as many as he should from in close.

If they decide to keep Bibby around I could see this coming down to a Wayne Ellington, Hansbrough battle though. If it’s a perfect world, Terrence Williams can drop to 19 which could eventually slide Smith to the 4 and Johnson to the 3.

[BlackMamba24Participant]

That is the issue….Josh Smith can not play the 4. ATL needs to get out of this plan. The only way he can play the 4 is if by a miracle he puts on more weight, get stronger and learn some post moves

[Johnny_HazeltineParticipant]

Josh Smith is the new kinda 4. Think about the 2 PFs playing in the Finals. Lamar Odom and Rashard Lewis. Josh Smith is in the same mold as those guys. Mobile, athletic, with the ability to step outside and shoot (Smith, not so much…yet).

The Hawks’ biggest issue is their offensive philosophy. They need to push the ball more, but Woodson is set on making them a half-court team. When they push the ball, Smith is the perfect 4!

[Atown_hawkParticipant]

I heard an interview Rick Sund gave on the sports station 790 the zone saying Horford is our 5 hands down mostly cuz of how he played the center position being maybe top 10 in the league overall. He also said they don’t really want him at the 4 cuz they want him in the box instead of having to guard players like Rashard Lewis and Dirk Nowitski out on the perimeter. So with that if Josh is here he will be our 4 I think unless he developes a better shot. And for my pick in the draft I’m taking Teague or Maynor whoever falls and maybe D. Christmas or Heytfelt in the second since Tony Douglas will be gone.

[BlackMamba24Participant]

Lamar Odom was coming off the bench, Pau Gasol was the starting 4. Plus Josh cant guard anything on the ball

[Johnny_HazeltineParticipant]

Knowing what we know about this draft (perceived as weak), and what normally comes out of the #19 position (not much), then what should the Hawks be looking to do with this pick. Here’s my suggestions:

GUYS I WOULD DRAFT –

~ Ty Lawson, PG. If he’s here, I’d take him over anybody else. He’s efficient, and tough.

~ Chase Budinger, SF. Okay, before you get your panties in a wad, think about this, he played for three coaches in three years with different philosophies about offense. And, he never had a distributing PG to work with. Combine that with the fact that he had to play second fiddle every year (Marcus Williams, Jared Bayless, Jordan Hill), and he’s a freak of nature athlete with the ability to shoot from long range. Plus, if Marvin Williams leaves via a sign-and-trade, and the Hawks can’t get Childress to come back, the Hawks will have a serious depth issue on the wing.

~ Tyler Hansbrough, PF. Say what you want, but you know exactly what you’re gonna get from him. Intensity, and the ability to hit the mid-range jumper. Combine that with the want to win, and you’ve got yourself a phenomenal team player.

~ Sam Young, SF. He might be a bit undersized, but he’s a good on-ball defender, and his range is increasing every year.

~ Omri Casspi, SF. Every year, there is that 2nd foreigner in the draft whom people aren’t quite sure if he’ll pan out. The thing about Casspi is, he’s not afraid to bump. If we loose Zaza Pachulia, Omri will be that “don’t mess with me, I’m foreign, and you’re not quite sure who I know overseas” kinda attitude. Plus, his name is almost Omni.

GUYS I WOULD NOT DRAFT –

~ James Johnson, SF. The classic case of a guy who has all the intangibles, but has never really put it together, primarily because some people question his attitude and work ethic, kinda guy.

~ Jeff Teague, SG. If he’s a good as everyone says (Ben Gordon, Devin Harris, etc.) then why is he slotted at the #19 spot in a weak draft?

~ Jrue Holiday, G. If Russell Westbrook, Jordan Farmar, Arron Afflalo, and Darren Collison all found success at UCLA, why didn’t Holiday? Okay, so he was great in high school. So was Omar Cooke.

~ B.J. Mullens, C. Knock on him is that he’s a good kid who grew up in a bad situation, and he just wants some NBA money to alleviate some childhood pains. While you can’t blame him for that, you also can’t put stock in him to develop after he gets paid. If he’s supposed to be a dominant big one day, why did only average 8 PPG at Ohio State?

TWO GUYS I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT:

~ Eric Maynor, PG. Everybody likes him. Nobody loves him. I wouldn’t cry if the Hawks drafted him, but I wouldn’t get excited either.

~ Terrence Williams, GF. As far as knowing his abilities and inabilities, yes, I can tell you about T-Will. But as far as projecting him into the NBA, I have no idea. He can’t shoot. I mean, he CAN’T SHOOT. He’s been at Louisville for four years under Pitino, and he still can’t shoot. As far as the intangibles go, sure, he’s really good. But what happens when teams leave him wide open? Trust me, it’ll happen alot.

SOME 2ND ROUND PROSPECTS:

~ Jon Brockman, PF. Rebounder. Tenacious.

~ Jack McClinton, SG. Great shooter, scorer.

~ Jerel McNeal, G. Underrated in my book.

~ DeMarre Carroll, F. Lots of energy, and lots of double consonants.

~ Derrick Brown, F. Great athlete. Greater project.

~ Nando De Colo, G. Nifty passer.

[akintuParticipant]

ok, so we’re saying Josh can’t run the 3 or the 4 for us…correct? sounds like we either need to cut ties with this guy…or pray he finds some skill set he has yet to find in the last couple offseasons….I say if we’re gonna trade him and Marvin, send them both to Indiana for Jarrett Jack, Danny Granger and Roy Hibbert and start Horford at the 4

[Johnny_HazeltineParticipant]

What about Taj Gibson at #19? Rumor has it that the Jazz are interested in Gibson at #20, so what’s one more spot up? And, if I were an NBA team, I’d look at the Jazz model for drafting (Deron Williams, Paul Millsap, Ronnie Brewer, Andrei Kirilenko).

I mean, the Hawks could do a lot worse than adding depth to their front court, especially if they feel they cannot resign Zaza.

[BlackMamba24Participant]

Thats too high for Gibson…ZaZa will re-sign with Atlanta and they wont have to pay an outrageous salary for him either

[Johnny_HazeltineParticipant]

I love how we just assume that because a guy is not mocked to go at a certain position, then it’s too high for him.

About a month ago, I posted that I thought Hansbrough was going to the Nets, and I got drilled for it because everyone said that was too high. Well, here we are, less than two days from the draft and Psycho-T gets an invite to NY because he’s probably gonna be a lottery pick.

And, if you think that the Hawks should just trade down to take a guy like Gibson, then you’re forgetting that every GM has basically said this draft is bad. I mean B-A-D. So, why would a GM trade up, and let the Hawks get their guy, plus one.

Also, Zaza, Flip, Marvin, Bibby, Mario, and Othello are all up for free agency is some form or another, and a player’s not gonna take a pay cut to play for the Hawks, therefore, all of these guys aren’t coming back. If Zaza wants more than the Hawks can pay him, adios.

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