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  • #54891
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    valentine

    I overheard Jalen Rose on Grantland suggest that this was a possibility. The only way it happens is if all 4 take a 25% paycut. They’re all crazy rich and their endorsements (according to Forbes) range from 10 – 42 million per year each.

    Anyone think this could happen? Of the 4, which would be most likely to squash the idea.

     

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  • #889882
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    Melo is wack if he even considers this! I understand he and LeBron are cool off the court, but on it they should be the modern day Bird vs Magic.

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  • #889773
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    Melo is wack if he even considers this! I understand he and LeBron are cool off the court, but on it they should be the modern day Bird vs Magic.

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  • #889892
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     Wade would probably be the one to squash the idea. Melo would love to come and win rings, LeBron too just wants wins, Bosh i guess. Wade is jealous of LBJ on some points and didnt he go through a divorce so he might need some money (For his lifestyle)

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  • #889783
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     Wade would probably be the one to squash the idea. Melo would love to come and win rings, LeBron too just wants wins, Bosh i guess. Wade is jealous of LBJ on some points and didnt he go through a divorce so he might need some money (For his lifestyle)

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    • #889917
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      Dwyane Wade personally, I think what you said here is a major stretch. 

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    • #890026
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      Dwyane Wade personally, I think what you said here is a major stretch. 

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  • #889902
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    Bosh and Wade aren’t max players anymore anyway. It’s worth a shout, and if he put his mind to it, there’s a chance Riley’d pull it off. 

    I’d love to see who took the last shot on that team.

     

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  • #889793
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    Bosh and Wade aren’t max players anymore anyway. It’s worth a shout, and if he put his mind to it, there’s a chance Riley’d pull it off. 

    I’d love to see who took the last shot on that team.

     

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  • #889906
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     This is just too much. Come on spirit of competition do your job!

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  • #889797
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     This is just too much. Come on spirit of competition do your job!

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  • #889926
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     These guys want money.  As much as they want to win, an NBA players career is so short compared to other careers.  What is obviously an absurd amount of money to us they don’t really see it that way with the expenditures they have.  I think expecting any one of these guys to take 12 to 15 million a year it just beyond a pipe dream.  Lebron, Wade and Bosh already took pay cuts which is very admirable and something you never see.  This time around I think they will all be looking to capitalize.  The only one that I can see taking less than max is Wade because he doesn’t deserve it.  

    Bosh gets a lot of flack for not being a max player but if he is on another team he would still put up max money type numbers, if not then just slightly under.

    Melo to me seems like the least likely to take a pay cut as he seems to be the most selfish out of all 3.  At least if he is anything like the way he plays.

     

     

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  • #889817
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     These guys want money.  As much as they want to win, an NBA players career is so short compared to other careers.  What is obviously an absurd amount of money to us they don’t really see it that way with the expenditures they have.  I think expecting any one of these guys to take 12 to 15 million a year it just beyond a pipe dream.  Lebron, Wade and Bosh already took pay cuts which is very admirable and something you never see.  This time around I think they will all be looking to capitalize.  The only one that I can see taking less than max is Wade because he doesn’t deserve it.  

    Bosh gets a lot of flack for not being a max player but if he is on another team he would still put up max money type numbers, if not then just slightly under.

    Melo to me seems like the least likely to take a pay cut as he seems to be the most selfish out of all 3.  At least if he is anything like the way he plays.

     

     

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  • #889934
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    Melo is going into his last max contract, all his career he’s been told he can’t win.  The issue here is there are no other contenders with enough money to sign him.  Him teaming up with K. Love is an idea for next year, but who the hell is going to Minny.   Chicago and Lakers are options, but D. Rose and Kobe’s inability to stay on the court for 2 years straight, is it worth it?  Look at the Knicks current situation and they won’t be able to find pieces until after next year when Amare’s deal is up.  So, you basically asking Melo to wait a couple of years to play for a legit contender.  Florida has no state tax and he can play with his friend since HS.  They’ve known each other the longest than any other group of players in the league.  Truth be told, I don’t see how he doesn’t go to Miami.  It doesn’t really make basketball sense to stay in NYC career wise.  Chicago is the only place I can see him heading to that will allow him to be somewhat of a contender without needing Derrick Rose.  But that’s a major "if" because Thibs isn’t well liked in that organization. 

    Ask my opinion?  I think he should just opt back into his last year and wait for next years FA when the Knicks are able to sign a player like Kevin Love.  Or go to Miami and make sure you get that ring. 

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  • #889825
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    Melo is going into his last max contract, all his career he’s been told he can’t win.  The issue here is there are no other contenders with enough money to sign him.  Him teaming up with K. Love is an idea for next year, but who the hell is going to Minny.   Chicago and Lakers are options, but D. Rose and Kobe’s inability to stay on the court for 2 years straight, is it worth it?  Look at the Knicks current situation and they won’t be able to find pieces until after next year when Amare’s deal is up.  So, you basically asking Melo to wait a couple of years to play for a legit contender.  Florida has no state tax and he can play with his friend since HS.  They’ve known each other the longest than any other group of players in the league.  Truth be told, I don’t see how he doesn’t go to Miami.  It doesn’t really make basketball sense to stay in NYC career wise.  Chicago is the only place I can see him heading to that will allow him to be somewhat of a contender without needing Derrick Rose.  But that’s a major "if" because Thibs isn’t well liked in that organization. 

    Ask my opinion?  I think he should just opt back into his last year and wait for next years FA when the Knicks are able to sign a player like Kevin Love.  Or go to Miami and make sure you get that ring. 

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  • #889962
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      "because Thibs isn’t well liked in that organization"

    lol that comment is so far beyond the truth… you my friend buy into way to much Media Agenda BS

    All of the Bulls Roster would lay infront of traffic for Thibs.. (look at the way they play for him)

    Reinsdorf is willing to do whatever it takes to keep him in Chicago..

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  • #889853
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      "because Thibs isn’t well liked in that organization"

    lol that comment is so far beyond the truth… you my friend buy into way to much Media Agenda BS

    All of the Bulls Roster would lay infront of traffic for Thibs.. (look at the way they play for him)

    Reinsdorf is willing to do whatever it takes to keep him in Chicago..

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    • #889879
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      Especially since it’s been in media reports since last year.   Also, Thibs has spoke directly on it.  The fact that you say is far from the truth is only comical.  Can’t be too far if the analyst in a video game even speak on it in 2K.   Add the fact that he said upper management wants to tank, but he won’t, I would think everyone’s speculations isn’t far off at all..    This isn’t media hoopla, it’s facts.  His players might do everything for him, but the players don’t make basketball decisions.   And you my friend is "far from the truth"… How I know?  Because you don’t have one shred of evidence to back your claim up.   Other than what you think, so laugh on funny man.

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    • #889988
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      Especially since it’s been in media reports since last year.   Also, Thibs has spoke directly on it.  The fact that you say is far from the truth is only comical.  Can’t be too far if the analyst in a video game even speak on it in 2K.   Add the fact that he said upper management wants to tank, but he won’t, I would think everyone’s speculations isn’t far off at all..    This isn’t media hoopla, it’s facts.  His players might do everything for him, but the players don’t make basketball decisions.   And you my friend is "far from the truth"… How I know?  Because you don’t have one shred of evidence to back your claim up.   Other than what you think, so laugh on funny man.

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  • #889877
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     If Kevin play with Melo they would help each other sats Melo love to jack up shots and Kevin is a glass eater lol at least they would be come Hall of Famers Stats wise

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  • #889986
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     If Kevin play with Melo they would help each other sats Melo love to jack up shots and Kevin is a glass eater lol at least they would be come Hall of Famers Stats wise

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  • #889895
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    OR……….how about the big 3 & Melo all go to different teams, and equal up the competition in the league!?

    I don’t know about you guys but I’m tired of there being 5 legit teams, 5 mediocre teams and 20 tankers.

     

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    • #890201
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       While I agree its unfortunately the nature of the NBA that there usually aren’t more than 6 teams with ldgitimate title aspirations in any given year.

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    • #890090
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       While I agree its unfortunately the nature of the NBA that there usually aren’t more than 6 teams with ldgitimate title aspirations in any given year.

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  • #890004
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    OR……….how about the big 3 & Melo all go to different teams, and equal up the competition in the league!?

    I don’t know about you guys but I’m tired of there being 5 legit teams, 5 mediocre teams and 20 tankers.

     

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  • #889925
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     It is definitely possible, but it involves pretty big pay cuts for all involved. I believe they could all sign on for 14-15 and all play together but aren’t they all going to get around 20million+ if they signed for the max? It is very interesting to think about because Wade, Bosh, and LeBron has done it before, but do they want another huge payday? Melo’s season this year could convince him that money isn’t everything and put a higher value on winning. It will be an interesting offseason.

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  • #890034
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     It is definitely possible, but it involves pretty big pay cuts for all involved. I believe they could all sign on for 14-15 and all play together but aren’t they all going to get around 20million+ if they signed for the max? It is very interesting to think about because Wade, Bosh, and LeBron has done it before, but do they want another huge payday? Melo’s season this year could convince him that money isn’t everything and put a higher value on winning. It will be an interesting offseason.

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  • #890141
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    Hmm, what should Carmelo do?  Well, we have another thread here about the Suns needing a small forward.  With the Suns’ all around talent and great coach, plus Okafor’s huge contract coming off the books, what about the Suns going after Carmelo Anthony? 

    Carmelo could go chase a ring in the desert southwest, similar to what Sir Charles did 20 years ago. 

    Carmelo, Dragic, and Bledsoe would give them 3 great go-to guys, with lots of role players around them like Gerald Green, the Morris twins, Plumlee, Channing Frye, as well as Alex Len. 

    If Carmelo can opt out, that might be the best spot for him.  He would be the main option and alpha scorer on a loaded, high octane team. 

    If they had to do some trades, they could send Okafor and PJ Tucker (sign and trades) and Ish Smith plus draft picks.  If I am New York and I got picks 14 and 17 along with some filler like PJ Tucker and Okafor I would be pretty happy. 

    The Suns would be giving up some really good draft picks, but they would be getting back one heck of a scorer and a certified go-to guy.  The Suns would still have picks at 27 and 44 to add decent talent. 

    For the Suns a small ball starting five of Dragic, Bledsoe, Gerald Green, Carmelo, and Miles Plumlee would be very competitive.  Then off the bench they have Archie Goodwin, The Morris twins, Channing Frye (stretch five who can come off the bench or start), and Alex Len.  That Suns team has a ton of talent and could go either big or small.  With picks at 27 and 44 they could add an energy glue guy like DeAndre Kane, a local Arizona product like Nick Johnson, or an extra big man like Patric Young.

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  • #890031
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    Hmm, what should Carmelo do?  Well, we have another thread here about the Suns needing a small forward.  With the Suns’ all around talent and great coach, plus Okafor’s huge contract coming off the books, what about the Suns going after Carmelo Anthony? 

    Carmelo could go chase a ring in the desert southwest, similar to what Sir Charles did 20 years ago. 

    Carmelo, Dragic, and Bledsoe would give them 3 great go-to guys, with lots of role players around them like Gerald Green, the Morris twins, Plumlee, Channing Frye, as well as Alex Len. 

    If Carmelo can opt out, that might be the best spot for him.  He would be the main option and alpha scorer on a loaded, high octane team. 

    If they had to do some trades, they could send Okafor and PJ Tucker (sign and trades) and Ish Smith plus draft picks.  If I am New York and I got picks 14 and 17 along with some filler like PJ Tucker and Okafor I would be pretty happy. 

    The Suns would be giving up some really good draft picks, but they would be getting back one heck of a scorer and a certified go-to guy.  The Suns would still have picks at 27 and 44 to add decent talent. 

    For the Suns a small ball starting five of Dragic, Bledsoe, Gerald Green, Carmelo, and Miles Plumlee would be very competitive.  Then off the bench they have Archie Goodwin, The Morris twins, Channing Frye (stretch five who can come off the bench or start), and Alex Len.  That Suns team has a ton of talent and could go either big or small.  With picks at 27 and 44 they could add an energy glue guy like DeAndre Kane, a local Arizona product like Nick Johnson, or an extra big man like Patric Young.

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  • #890153
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     Just heard this topic brought up on a local radio show with a guest, Miami writer Ethan Skolnick. Skolnick said that all of the big 3, specifically LeBron, have hinted at the fact they aren’t getting paid what they are worth, and the idea is they sacrificed some cash to put the Big 3 together, this next time they want to get paid what they can.

    Grantland is awesome, but Rose just likes to float things out there that have no real credibility behind them. 

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  • #890043
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     Just heard this topic brought up on a local radio show with a guest, Miami writer Ethan Skolnick. Skolnick said that all of the big 3, specifically LeBron, have hinted at the fact they aren’t getting paid what they are worth, and the idea is they sacrificed some cash to put the Big 3 together, this next time they want to get paid what they can.

    Grantland is awesome, but Rose just likes to float things out there that have no real credibility behind them. 

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    • #890217
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      It’s funny because there is a realistic chance that Bosh and Wade get paid less on their next deal then they are making now. Only LeBron is worth more than he is currently. Personally I’d love to see LeBron leave and see how Wade leads a team when he doesn’t get to take 20-30 games off and constantly play fresh.

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    • #890106
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      It’s funny because there is a realistic chance that Bosh and Wade get paid less on their next deal then they are making now. Only LeBron is worth more than he is currently. Personally I’d love to see LeBron leave and see how Wade leads a team when he doesn’t get to take 20-30 games off and constantly play fresh.

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  • #890193
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     4 Superstars on one team is stretching it a bit but I am waiting for one day some guys maybe in 33 to 35 age range all decide to take a bit less and try to have a short term run together. When the superstars try to recruit supporting veterans, I do feel it helps if they leave some money behind as often the veteran is a former franchise player and they may think why should I take minimum when he’s getting 20 million a season.

     

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  • #890082
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     4 Superstars on one team is stretching it a bit but I am waiting for one day some guys maybe in 33 to 35 age range all decide to take a bit less and try to have a short term run together. When the superstars try to recruit supporting veterans, I do feel it helps if they leave some money behind as often the veteran is a former franchise player and they may think why should I take minimum when he’s getting 20 million a season.

     

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  • #890203
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     If the Heat’s big three all took pay cuts it seems silly to use the savings on Carmelo Anthony. I mean while D-Wade is breaking down physically but to bring in another guy who needs the ball to be effective seems silly. If the Heat big three were to take pay cuts I’d think they’d want to bring in a guy more like Omer Asik ie a big man who would rebound and defend at a high level while being able to score if necessary.

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  • #890092
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     If the Heat’s big three all took pay cuts it seems silly to use the savings on Carmelo Anthony. I mean while D-Wade is breaking down physically but to bring in another guy who needs the ball to be effective seems silly. If the Heat big three were to take pay cuts I’d think they’d want to bring in a guy more like Omer Asik ie a big man who would rebound and defend at a high level while being able to score if necessary.

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  • #890205
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    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/03/report-bulls-front-office-taking-an-active-role-in-telling-coach-thibodeau-how-to-manage-players-minutes/

    http://www.suntimes.com/24942553-579/bulls-front-office-likely-driving-coach-tom-thibodeau-away.html#.U08f_-29LCQ

    I’m not making this up… Do I personally think they will let him go?? No, but my claim that he’s not well liked within the organization is supported. You can say it’s just rumors all you want, but Thibs have gone on record discussing he’s not tanking for them. Add the fact they fired one of his assistants and I would say the claims have merit. Cowards

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    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/03/report-bulls-front-office-taking-an-active-role-in-telling-coach-thibodeau-how-to-manage-players-minutes/

    http://www.suntimes.com/24942553-579/bulls-front-office-likely-driving-coach-tom-thibodeau-away.html#.U08f_-29LCQ

    I’m not making this up… Do I personally think they will let him go?? No, but my claim that he’s not well liked within the organization is supported. You can say it’s just rumors all you want, but Thibs have gone on record discussing he’s not tanking for them. Add the fact they fired one of his assistants and I would say the claims have merit. Cowards

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