game mvp: roy hibbert
Heat fans are sh*tty lol.
LeBron 2 points the entire 2nd half and Wade a no show.
Crowd chanting floppers non-stop.
Indianna is relishing in this situation. I would to if I was told my team didn't stand a chance in blue hell. Lol I was one of the Pacer's doubters too.
The MVP tonight was DWADE for the Pacers. Without his scoring, Miami is done.
Heat fans are sh*tty in this thread, but look at the stats...
Pacers are dominating this game. Rebounds. Free-throws. Defense. Post scoring. Balanced scoring.
And they locked up LeBron and Wade in the 2nd half.
Pacers are NOT afraid of this team.
wow..... the pacers have really proved me wrong.....
i know the series isnt over but this is likely a confidence killer
kudos to indy
You have to know the Heat had all the motivation in the world to win this game... Wade calling out the Pacers "celebrating" after the last win. Wade's a no show all game and the Heat look defeated. Perhaps its dawned on the Heat that they're not real title contenders?
How much of this has to do with Bosh being out? He missed half the first game. Is he that much more of a factor to the Heat being able to win? Were the Heat just lucky to get a victory in game one?
I mean, have the Heat shot over 40% in a game this series?
some people j!zzing in their pants after the win i see
A Lance Stephenson Sighting!!
Did Vogel take over as "interim" coach this season? Remember those times? That team looked nothing like this Indiana team. Vogels got em believing in themselves and doing all the little things. Details details details. I'm super impressed with the Pacers. Great win for em.
Miami overoads too much....its just skip pass - open jump shot!
would i get negged if i said that miami will win game four??
LeBron is just a shell of himself athletically man. I don't care what anybody says. Just watch the game and you'll see i. He no longer has that takeover ability. Last season, he at least had that jumper to rely on when he couldn't get to the rim, but now what?
^You sound STUPID.
Grangers D on Lebron has been AMAZING. I don't think I've seen another player get in Lebrons face and fight back as much as Granger has.
Did you really just say Lebron James no longer has the ability to take over a basketball game? So what your saying is the player who put up the greatest season since Jordan (PER wise) cannot take over a basketball game. That's one of the more ridiculous things I've heard in a long time.
There goes the Granger is soft comments lol.
I remember few months ago there was a thread about ranking the Center in this league and a lot of people were questioning why many of us was rating roy hibbert a top 5-7 C
he is now proving that he deserved that Rating,His defense and scoring abilities is really important to that team success
also I really love the pacers right now ,they play as a group and moves the ball really well,which is my favorite type of game,hope they will be able to win this series,won't count the heat out yet
Game four predictions:
Granger with 20+
Hibbert dbl dbl with 3 blk
James and Wade 50+
Another Wade cheap shot on Hill/Collison (someone smaller than he is)
Pacers by two
LeBron's droughts aren't surprising to me in the least. There's nothing he does on the floor that could be considered a "strength". Nothing he could hang his hat on when the going gets tough. He has to PRAY his jump shot is on. Either that or pray the opposition is playing very bad defense, so he can get to the basket. Since neither is happening, he disappears. This is why I have always laughed at the best-in-the-game talk the last 2 seasons. He's good, but the best? Please.These droughts, I think we can all agree, aren't surprising in the least. There's nothing he does on the floor that could be considered a "strength". Nothing he could hang his hat on when the going gets tough. He has to PRAY his jump shot is on. Either that or pray the opposition is playing very bad defense, so he can get to the basket. Since neither is happening, he disappears. This is why I have always laughed at the best-in-the-game talk the last 2 seasons. He's good, but the best? Please.
^Again, you sound stupid.
Wow GTFO with that nonsense. Everything you said is wrong. Nothing he does on the floor that's a strength? He's arguably the best perimeter defender in the NBA. He's one of the five best passers regardless of position in the NBA. He's a good rebounder, and despite what you're saying he's actually a pretty good shooter too from midrange and from deep. He's probably the best finisher in the NBA. He's one of the best athletes in the history of sports. He's lead teams full of crap deep in the playoffs year after year.
So what exactly does he do that isn't a strength? Make Dwyane Wade better at shooting? Not his fault Wade's jumper sucks. Just because you're a Washington fan you're acting so insanely biased it's ridiculous. He has been the best basketball player on earth since 2009 and if you don't see that you don't know basketball period. It's not even debatable.
^^Most of the things you just said in your postare of the past. I'm not talking about the LeBron of Cleveland. I'm talking about CURRET LeBron. He USED to be one of the best athletes in sports. Nowadays, he'll get one good dunk a game to fool people into thinking he's still a freak of nature. If you watched him trying to get by Danny Granger today and still deny that he hasn't lost quickness, you're blind and I can't help you. I bet if you put current LeBron on the past Cleveland teams he led, they would be significantly worse because he's not as good as he was back then.
And me being a Washington fan has no effect on what I'm saying. Many of my fellow Washington fans hate LeBron, but I neither like him no hate him. I wasn't a die-hard back in that 06 playoff series. I have no resentment for LeBron and I'm stating everything with objectivity, unlike some of you that are blinded by reputation.
LeBron is a beast defensively, rebounding, pushing and passing the ball. Offensively, despite his numbers say differently, he still has some holes.
The Pacers just loaded up on him tonight and he really didn't have any help. Role players missed open shots. D. Wade didn't show up.
The problem with LeBron though is he can't take advantage of his size, strength and vision in the low post. And he also has no go-to move. No sweet spot. Everything is isolation and he needs a pick. His jumper is still somewhat streaky and tonight it just wasn't falling.
I never said he hasn't lost a step but for you to think he still isn't an elite athlete is dumbfounding and that's literally the only part you debated. He's still an incredible defender, passer, teammate, finisher and I would say rebounding and his jumper would be strengths for most other players. The only reason they aren't consdiered strengths for him is because he's amazing at other things.
I'll believe you when you say you aren't biased because of Washington, but come on man. You're going way overboard with the criticism.
Damn! I had an interview today and totally forgot about this game, just got home and saw that the Pacers ROMPED the Heat. From the box score looks like D-Wade has some explaining to do. I didn't read Wiz of Oz's posts but from slight skimming and all the negs I can assume he's talking about how Lebon has lost all of his athleticism.
He has lost some, but not a lot, he bulked up too much, he lost a bit this off-season but he needs to lose more, the current Lebron isn't as atheltic as the Cleveland Lebron, but current Lebron is still an Elite all world level ahtlete.
even if lebron has "lost" atheltism....
hes still the best athlete the nba has ever seen... and still one of the best athletes the world has ever seen..... but his speed and jumping has nothing to do with the heat losing.... the pacers simply imposed their will on the heat and thats the only thing that matters.... miami had no anwser for hibbert and hill...... once miami had that 9 point lead in the first.. i thought they were gnna win... but the loss of bosh really really showed up in the second half and i was kinda surprised.... didnt think miami would get beaten down that badly...
Yeah, he definitely isn't athletic anymore...
^now thats athletic
A lot of us knew this, but some argued - Bosh is their most important player. He's clearly third best, but he has absolute trash backing him up, he's hugely disruptive on defense with his length and quickness, and he makes ALL of their offensive floor spacing work. Without Wade or Lebron (NOT both), but with Bosh, this is still a great team. Without Bosh, but with the other 2, I'm not so sure.
Huge win for the Pacers and if their crowd gets right behind them then Game 4 becomes awkward for the Heat and if they get near to another play off event then the press will be on their backs. LeBron could easily drop 35 to 40 points in a couple of games to turn the series but he needs support and even if the Herat scrape through will they be able to progress further?
This is why Riley won't win executive of the year.
He wasted cap space on Haslem, Miller, James Jones, Jole Anthony.
He has basically 4th stringers on the team in Pittman, Curry, Howard.
Minimum vets like Turiaf, Eddie House and a overhyped rookie in Norris Cole are his big move outside of Shane Battier who is clearly not the same player and is just a jump shooter on offense. How many SG, SF's does the team need.
Heat are capped out for the next 4 yrs after this season and any of the big 3 can leave in summer of 2014.
Not sure about the new CBA but ppl say there is no more mle just an exception.
Team need legit big men, rebounders, shot blockers and someon off the bench that can score.