Well, I usually hate some of these hypotheticals that people come up with because they are of course in the past, sometimes farfetched and sometimes would be very hard to decipher as far as what happened. But, for the heck of it, I thought of one that might be kind of fun to think about. Where would the preps to pro guys had gone had the NBA instituted a one year rule in 1995 (the year KG entered the draft)? Well, I am going to make a list and guess.
Kevin Garnett-Michigan Wolverins (or JUCO, as I know their was a supposed issue with his test score though his grades were decent)
Kobe Bryant-Duke Blue Devils (I know that their were a few PA schools involved, particularily LaSalle, but I think Kobe was leaning towards Duke and would have played for Coach K)
Jermaine O'Neal-South Carolina Gamecocks (Feel like he would have stayed close to home, though I know he struggled on his test scores and might have gone to JUCO as well)
Tracy McGrady-Kentucky Wildcats (Some people thought Pitino left to coach the Celts and draft him, but he took Mercer at 6 instead. I think T-Mac might still have played for Tubby, or maybe stayed local at Florida State)
Al Harrington-Seton Hall Pirates(I believed he had committed there prior to deciding to leave for the draft)
Rashard Lewis-Houston Cougars (Think he would have stayed local, we all remember how hurt he was not to be taken by the Rockets)
Korleone Young-Kansas Jayhawks (Was from Kansas though he went to HS in Virginia. Still think he probably would have been a Jayhawk)
Jonathan Bender-Mississippi State Bulldogs (Where he had committed before breaking MJ's record at the McDonald's All-American game)
Leon Smith-DePaul Blue Demons(I think he was linked there before declaring)
Darius Miles-DePaul Blue Demons(This is post is going to hurt for any Illinois basketball peeps, ie. DanEBoy. This draft was where Quentin Richardson and Darius both went to the Clips. I think Darius probably would have tried to step into Q's footsteps and he would have been a big time beast in his only year.)
DeShawn Stevenson-Kansas Jayhawks (Think it was a done deal that he would have played for Roy)
Kwame Brown-Florida Gators (He was set to go play at Florida before deciding to become one of the most talk about draft busts of Michael Jordan's executive career while playing with him for the Wizards)
Tyson Chandler-UCLA Bruins (Their was never much chance of Tyson going to school, but I feel he would have gone to UCLA)
Eddy Curry-DePaul Blue Demons (I am pretty sure he committed as well, but than decided to go pro after being assured as a top 5 pick and winning McDonald's All-American MVP.)
DeSagana Diop-Virginia Cavaliers (Honestly, this was the first one where I had NO idea where he would go. He went to Oak Hill, so I have him staying local, but I really never remember college being seriously talked about with him)
Ousmane Cisse-Alabama Crimson Tide (He looked like a potentially explosive 4 man, still plays pro in Europe I am pretty sure. Never hacked it in the NBA, but I think I remember hearing about him playing college in Bama had he not gone pro)
Amare Stoudemire-Memphis Tigers (Memphis fans will reminisce that this was the draft that deprived them of a team of DaJuan Wagner, Qyntel Woods and STAT, who at a time were all possible top 5 selections in this draft. Could not believe Stoudemire slipped as low as he did, some people were saying he could have been the first pick in the draft as an HS junior, and I am sure MJ would have been alright with that)
LeBron James-Ohio State Buckeyes (Bron could have gone to a lot of different places, and I would not be surprised if he would have gone to Akron with his HS buddies. But, I believe he would have gone to the biggest institution in Ohio to try and get a ring. Might not have succeeded, but he would have undoubtedly killed it.)
Travis Outlaw-Mississippi State Bulldogs (Dogs lost another one, as Outlaw was the first HS player in this draft taken after Bron. Would have been a nice get, and I really felt like he should have gone to college as he was not NBA ready and had a tough rookie year. Still turned out alright)
Ndubi Ebi-Arizona Wildcats (Very talented, skinny as a rail, he and Luol Deng were LeBron's closest comp to the #1 spot. Never developed into much of an NBA player and I really do not know what he was up too. Do remember he was going to play for Lute, but entered the draft instead)
Kendrick Perkins-Memphis Tigers (This was the other one! Man, Tigers fans, I am sorry. Coach Cal was still recruiting one and done guys, but they were skipping college all together! Perkins was committed to go to Memphis, tough loss.)
James Lang-Louisville Cardinals (He was choosing between a few schools, but I think he was leaning towards Louisville. Probably would have been a good idea for him to play for Rick.)
Dwight Howard-Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets (He was never really seriously considering school at this point, but he very well could have stayed local. Especially after the Yellow Jackets had just went to the chip the year before.)
Shaun Livingston-Duke Blue Devils (Skinny PG wunderkind was supposed to go to Duke before being the Charlotte Bobcat's inaugural pick and traded to the Clippers for Emeka Okafor.)
Robert Swift-USC Trojans (Formerly skinny Center was seen as being a great pick here and I think was one of the last players to decide to enter the draft out of HS in this class)
Sebastian Telfair-Louisville Cardinals (Would have been Rick Pitino's PG, was maybe one of this classes most talked about prospects since being featured on the cover of SLAM with LeBron as a junior and even being called the top player in his class as an 8th grader)
Al Jefferson-Arkansas Razorbacks (Set to try and bring back glory to Arkansas before skipping the college scene)
Josh Smith-Indiana Hoosiers (I think this was when Mike Davis might have still been there. Could have maybe saved his job)
JR Smith-North Carolina Tar Heels (Had a huge McDonald's All-American game which lead to him skipping school and going to the draft)
Dorrell Wright-DePaul Blue Demons (Another Blue Demon commit, Dorrell did a Post Grad year and was getting some "similar to Kobe" type buzz. Of course he was no Kobe, but they liked his game, and he has had a pretty decent year on GSW. He was the last of a record 8 HS players taken in the first round, he was taken 19th. Tough year for college BB in not getting that much talent)
Jackie Butler-Tennessee Volunteers (Was not drafted, so I think this would not have been a bad place for him to play as he was committed there originally. Even so, he still won a ring on the Spurs in 2007.)
Martell Webster-Washington Huskies (Nate Robinson had left, and Washington was getting excited for a possible Martell/B-Roy pairing. Too bad for the Huskies fans that they had to wait until Brandon was drafted by the Blazers the next year. Martell would have had a big year next to B-Roy on that team)
Andrew Bynum-Connecticut Huskies (Another player who picked up buzz after the All-Star games, though it was not hard to see why. He was probably a little heavier back than and has really worked on his body and conditioning. Ended up playing a key piece to the Lakers past couple championships, and will more than likely do the same if they win one this year)
Gerald Green-Oklahoma State Sooners (Committed there, but than was thought to be the first HS player taken in the draft. Most people thought there was little way he would slip out of the lottery, much less be the 3rd HS player taken)
CJ Miles-Texas Longhorns (Was going to help out LaMarcus and Daniel Gibson, but opted for the draft)
Monta Ellis-Mississippi State Bulldogs (Was there any school hurt more by HS early entry than this school? I mean, DePaul might be close, and Memphis lost some big gets, but MSU was crushed by this non-consecutively, that has to be crushing when you are bringing in potential program changers)
Louis Williams-Georgia Bulldogs (He was committed to play with Mike Mercer and turn Georgia around. Had to be disappointed being drafted as low as he was)
Andray Blatche-Syracuse Orangemen (Think Andray was leaning towards playing for Boeheim at Cuse if I remember correctly)
Amir Johnson-Louisville Cardinals (Another player Pitino lost before they got to campus)
Well, 2006 was the year the one year rule was instituted. I did it mostly from memory and guessing, but scout.com did help me out on the final few years. Basketball-reference helped me out with the drafts. Also, I know that Brandon Jennings was committed to Arizona, Jeremy Tyler was committed to Louisville and Latavious Williams was going to go to Memphis. That is pretty much all I can think of, though their could be more. Well, if anyone has comments or other alternatives, feel free to give them. I am sure these guys could have changed champions and outcomes in some situations, I just wonder how radically. Also, yes, they all could have taken the option to play pro in Europe, though up until 2005, I had never really heard that as being an option. Kobe might have, that would have been tight, as would have KG. Wonder if KG would have been first pick in the 1996 draft too? Another thing to think about. Well, as I said, comments and thoughts are appreciated, other than "this is too long" or "you are wasting your life". Of both of those, I am very aware :)
- Kevin Garnett- G'Town
- Darius Miles- St. John's
- Dwight Howard- UNC
I heard Deshawn was almost lock for Ucla
K.G would have had to go Juco with his grades
Na, DeShawn was committed to Kansas, I was in high school and really pumped and he declared kinda late too so it was kind of a shock.
- Garnett told John Thompson during their interview together that he would have went to G'Town if he went to college.
- Darius Miles was slated for St. John's around the time of the Mickey D's game I clearly remember him going there if he did not go pro.
- Dwight I'm not all that sure, but I think with Roy Williams going to have the Top class that year he would have went there with J.R. Smith & Marvin Williams
Yeah, I remember him saying that too, I think Deshawn had problems with grades too, I think that was part of the reason he declared kinda late too.
You were right about Miles to St. John's, that was where he was set to go. KG to G-Town though? I never really heard that one. Well, Quincey, I still think KG might have had a chance, I heard his grades were fine but his test scores weren't, but he could have potentially made it in. The reason I wrote JUCO was because I knew you were going to bring it up, and you did, lol. Also very much agree with Joe Wolf, think Stevenson was headed to Kansas. Dwight Howard UNC though? Maybe, it would have been possible. Where you getting this from tyga? You were right about Miles to St. John's though, that was where he committed, to Mike Jarvis. Man, I wish I had remembered that one. Now that I hear what you are saying, I think KG was possibly blowing smoke, but it would have been interesting. Heard he was a Michigan man at the time though, things were leaning that way. Also, I do not know if playing with JR Smith and Marvin Williams would have swayed DH, but he would have won the chip hardcore with that team that won it with just Marvin as a frosh.
"Where you getting this from tyga?"
I always remembered DMiles to St. John's that stood out to me, because I use to love watching them back when they had Lopez Artest Hamilton Postell.
Here are some notables you forgot about......I'll let you fill in the blanks
- Tony Key-
- DeAngelo Collins-
- Lenny Cooke-
- Ricky Sanchez-
- Keith Brumbaugh-
Tony Key-Believe he was linked to either Kentucky or Tennessee, though he played HS in LA than went to JUCO there. Think he would probably have gone to Kentucky, just sort of remember that connection. He did end up going to Los Angeles CC I believe, so JUCO did seem like a strong possibility to start things off.
DeAngelo Collins-Though I remember UCLA being in the conversation, Scout listed Fresno State and San Diego State as possibilities. Would probably go with Fresno State, though I am unsure as to whether he would also have to go the JUCO route.
Lenny Cooke-Think academics were an issue with Lenny as well, but had he gone to college, believe it would have been at St. John's.
Ricky Sanchez-Seemed like he was set to go to Memphis before declaring for the draft.
Keith Brumbaugh-Remember him being committed to Oklahoma State
Think the reason I probably did not answer these was that I focused on the guys who had actually played in the NBA. Unfortunately, none of these guys ever actually played a NBA contest.
You know what you're right. He had Ucla high but then ended up committing to Kansas. I forgot about that.
I think Dwight would have went to GT
You were right about that one, I meant the Dwight Howard and KG. Should have edited it, sorry. Yeah, I should have done those undrafted guys as well. Most of them did not really have schools, but if I had to guess for Cooke I would think St. John's. I think Collins would have gone to Fresno State, though San Diego State was also a possibility. Keith Brumbaugh was going to Florida, than I think he switched to Oklahoma State. Ricky Sanchez I think went to HS in Florida, though he was born and I think might play in Puerto Rico. He might have been one of those guys who goes pro straight out of HS. Tony Key ended up playing JUCO after he was not drafted, so I think he probably does the same thing, I had no idea where he would have gone to college.
Man, one thing tyga. I like how you are inquisitive and that you ask questions, but why do you always seem to wait for everyone to give their opinion and answer before giving yours. It is kind of suspicious man, and as much as you are maybe afraid of getting negative feedback when you do, don't be. I like the points because they let you know people are following you, whether it is they respect what you say or appreciate you doing it or the opposite. But, if you are going to write everything in hopes of getting positive points, I have news for you, as of right now, they have no apparent monetary value. If someone does not agree with you, who cares? I still think you should write your opinion on these things rather than just leaving lists for people to do all of the time.
I swear I remember KG wanting to go to Michigan because of the Fab 5.
Houston was the favorite for Rashard Lewis, but then the coach who recruited him got fired. I don't remember who the other options were.
As for KG:
"As for college, was Garnett going to Michigan? He told Student Sports Magazine in the fall of 1995 that, "Everybody had me going to Michigan for a long time. I led people on that I was going to UM. If I would have gone to college it was going to be Maryland. I was going to shock'em all.""
In the end, he went to the NBA. One could only predict where he actually would have gone, I think Michigan, DePaul and Maryland are as good a guess as any. Judging by the stories surrounding his test scores, I think ending up playing at a NCAA D1 institution might have been shocking enough :)