my fault 4 posting dis again put it in da wrong spot, t-mac is a better passer and was more athletic than Durant at his age. Durants is longer and taller but physically his body needs 2 mature
When KD came out that's the closest person they could compare him to... But Other than the height and length, I don't see the comparison... KD shot comes off so easy, while T-Mac shoots in streaks... Offensively T-Mac had everything Kobe got now... KD is missing a lot from that aspect of his game... Tracy was stronger more of an athlete than what KD is... And a better defender than KD... A healthy T-Mac would be challenging Kobe for the best in the league because he REALLY didn't have any holes in his game... Tracy was a beast man... KD can score but what else does he provide?
well of course not cuz KD iz still gettin' but how bout da future, i agree T-mac wuz a beast and KD duz need to add a few things 2 his game 2 be even like T-mac
was faster also
I think Durant has a better rebounding game, and its getting better, but ya, t mac had better D, and more athletic. I have to admit tho, they are both just as exciting to watch; t-mac in his day, and KD now.
I think Durant, hell I know Durant will end up being better than McGrady ever was....in only his second season he shot 47 percent from the field overall and about 43 percent from three.....McGrady hasn't EVER been that efficent his whole career you can go look that up and it's only durant's second year. He's a good rebounder for his position already and will only get better....at his best he may be throwin up 30 and 10 on avg. He's actually like a mix between Mcgrady and Nowitzki to me, but he'll wind up being better than both.
wut makes him like Nowitzki?
KD definitely has his own style of play, but in terms of comparisons I would say he plays much more like Dirk than TMac. TMac survived early on by being long and extremely explosive. KD is more like Dirk in that they are both close to 7 feet, long, smooth shooting, and fluid athletes rather than super springy.
hakaan said it ace...the fact that he's close to 7 feet, shoots a high percentage from three and and the freethrow line and will end up being about as good of a rebounder as nowitzki and they are both potent scorers except durant is even more so.
he wouldnt challenge kobe because his defense was never on kobes level ..he could challenge him offensively minus the fourth quarter ..as far as tracy and durant...what was mcgradys second year stats compared to kds first year ( since kd went to college for a year)
Is truly a special player, he'll be the player I'll watch grow. Sure he's athletic, but he relies more on skill and craftiness than his athleticism. Which is remarkable for someone who is still so young. He could be the most polished 20 year old player the game has ever seen. Imagine him in five years, he truly is going to be a beast. Funny thing is, he still flies under most people's radar.
you made a very good point that i forgot to bring up..kd relies on skill to do what he does which is rare because most players dont rely alot on that untill they get up there in age
actually KD even though he went to college came in about the same age as T Mac and right now he is progressing at a better rate than T Mac. Durant is more of a scorer though and T Mac was like a big point guard. Durant will be more effective to me than T Mac because I think Durant will work harder than Mcgrady and he is getting better over all. He was putting up all around numbers his second year. Durant would be a good person to work with Kobe to add a post game and he could be unguardable.
Tracy locked up a few people (big dog, ray allen, vince), but of all the guys that shouldn't play D, it was Tracy... He had to do so much for his team... Ima tell you the starting line-up.... Darrell Armstrong at point, Tracy at 2, (rookie) Mike Miller at 3, Bo Outlaw at 4, and the gay dude John Amechi at 5... That's why you really didn't see him play D like that... He's the only person other than AI that can get a pass from me... But he gave Kobe hell when they matched up against each other... His 2003 numbers were INSANE... You better go check the records... KD can flat out score, and hopefully he stays healthy, but the 2003 McGrady was better... Matter of fact the 2003 McGrady was better than the LeBron James of today.... Yall sleeping on the sleepy eyed fellow...
you might wanna check the records..he wasnt a rookie when he went to orlando...if we going by records/stats imm check it out and see mcgradys stats in 2003 compared to lebrons...and the surrounding cast which im sure are near even though lebron is a winner seeing as he lead a team of no names to the finals a couple years back as well as this years team to the conference finals
YR TM G GS MIN FG FG% 3P 3P% FT FT% STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS
02-03 ORL 75 74 39.4 11.1-24.2 .457 2.3-6.0 .386 7.7-9.7 .793 1.7 0.8 2.6 2.1 1.6 4.9 6.5 5.5 32.1
team record 42-40
G MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT STL BLK TO PF AST PTS
Season 81 37.7 789-1613 .489 132-384 .344 594-762 .780 1.3 6.3 7.6 1.69 1.15 2.98 1.72 7.2 28.4
team record 66-16
magic other players.that year...grant hill averaged 14 mike miller averaged 16 drew gooden averaged 12
Grant Hill played all but 20 games that season... Mike Miller got traded for Drew Gooden and Drew Gooden got injured shortly after that... Come again?
29 games:)....lebron right now was better then mcgrady in 2003..from the stats stand point to the team record stand point to getting out of the first round to lebron getting mvp...im more then willing to sit and wait to see what proof shows mcgrady was better then lebron is now
Tracy had a better OVERRALL game than the King... When I said a HEALTHY Tracy would challenge Kobe for the best in the league that is what I mean... Sit yo azz down younging...
younging?..yeah i guess 27 is young these days..anyway i already put up there overall stats and for some strange reason i dont see where mcgradys game was overall better..more assits lebron..more boards lebron...oh and the more triple doubles ...mcgrady did average mor epoint though..does that mean he was better over all??
Have a better team than what Tracy had back then... Did you see the starting Line-up? The same MVP that was given to Steve Nash twice? And Dirk once... While D-Wade beat LBJ in majority of the STAT catergories and had worse of a TEAM and still didn't get MVP? LOL... Or like how MJ got beat out by Karl Malone for MVP? LOL... If you look at Tracy OVERRALL game back then, he didn't have a flaw... Now, look at your boy, LBJ... Where should I start?
lol..give it up..no one is taking mcgrady then over lebron now to build a team..and i never had him challenging kobe in any year...he might have been behind him never neck and neck though..im sure kobes numbers would have been redunkulous if he played with orlando
LeBron is missing post game, defense, a consistent 3pt, mid-range.... And you dare to say he's better? This is 6 years into the league just like Tracy was... I really didn't see a flaw in his game back then...
Because Tracy is 30 you NUT... And Tracy was better than KOBE back then... And I'm a Kobe FAN...
i did..big flaw called being a winner
riiiiight better than kobe..on that note im no longer comming back to this fourm..good day..lol
The K.D Mcgrady comparison okay,let not forget how much of monster T-Mac was,saying that Durant could end up having a better career,but in TMac's prime I would take TMac even though we don't know how high Durant's ceiling of potential is (looks unlimited),yet I digress,I've read a intriguing comparison for Durant which is George Gervin not bad
And what has LeBron won? LOL... MVP? And that's thru the media- the same media who said whoever finish with the best record is getting their vote... What has he won? What has he done to warrant the best? You tell me give me something please... Im begging you? He hasn't won ish...
I agree to a certain extent,T-Mac orlando and Kobe were equals at one time,it's sad to see how far he fell such a short time.Can you say Hardaway
They were... I couldn't name a flaw in their games... Or which one did something better than the other REALLY... Only thing left was the numbers... People just don't understand how good T-Mac was... An ESPN writer wrote a story about Tracy and the downfall of his career... Recently too...
Yea, that Orlando T-Mac was my favorite player at one point. They didn't have nothing for that boy. He used to give Kobe the business. Kobe couldn't post him or shoot that fadeaway over him... T-Mac's length was a problem. T-Mac had 3-PT/Mid Range game, bounce (one or two foot bounce), could post you, handle, pass... play D. That boy was nasty. I think Kobe would be better now even if T-Mac was healthy though, because Kobe's killer instinct is only 2nd to MJ's.