A lot of people have been comparing Jabari Parker to Carmelo Anthony due to his high skill level, scoring instincts, and ability to make things happen despite not having elite athleticism. Is he the next Melo? Carmelo Anthony is my favorite player and I would hate to get my hopes high and get burned for a third time.( Michael Beasley and Derrick Williams were also compared to Melo).
Personally I thought he looked terrible on TV a week ago... No where near Carmelo in high school... I understand he is coming off of injury and everything, but I just think his game is behind what Melos was..
I think he was some weight to lose, and I think he needs to shake the rust off, and he should be a very good player, but not quite the player carmelo is.
Not carmelo but better than Williams and Beasley for the fact that he's going to be a pure small forward and not one of these tweeners. But I agree with WolfRob, he looked out of shape and shaky on ESPN last week, but lets give him time to get back in a rhythm and watch him develop in college.
that was his first game in like five months because of an injury. He only played in 3 minute spurts. Hopefully espn puts him on again in a month so that we can watch him when he is in rhythm. He has the potential to be similar to melo but he has more passing ability and probably wont be as good of a scorer as melo.
Yes you are right. I hope he can recover his shape. He has tremendous talent. No one knows if he perseveres maybe he can surpass or equal the talent of melo. He is still young.
No because he's not the scorer that Melo was, nor is he built to physically dominate like Melo since he lacks Melo's dynamite first step. He's an all around skill player with a good floor game.
He is a much better creator than Melo was at the same stage, but not the same scorer. If he doesn't score he will give you 7-8 assists. Very versatile.
I doubt Carmelo ever scored only 5 points in a high school game especially if it was televised. There are not many pure scorers on Earth like Carmelo.
I had to stop posting on this site after a while because sooooooo many new users and jock riders... No one for real knows basketball anymore and it's clearly "what have you done for me lately" type of atmoshphere around these parts or people have a shotty memory...
Asking some of these people on here for opinions isn't worth it... This time last year A LOT of posters on this site STATED Carmelo was overrated and Dano G. was much better!!! Yes, that was said... They didn't take into account that he came off 2 surgeries OR a lock-out in a shorten season... All that didn't matter... I also stated OJ needed a new team where can start and start fresh... A ton of issues there too... So, take what they say and this with a grain of salt... Do your own research and formulate your own opinion... This site isn't what it used to be and I've been screaming my disgust with it for a while now... Maybe the ad money is worth more than the content to you Aran?? Who knows??
Now back to your question, YES he is just as good as Melo (if not better) at the same age... Actually Jabari is probably stronger and longer than Melo at this age... Mike and D-Will played nothing like Melo to me while coming out... Mike did have a similar post game, but was more of a 4 and neither had the handle... People claim Jabari isn't efficient and Melo wasn't that either... You can actually check Melo's pre draft comparisons and profile on here to see he wasn't considered athletic or having a quick first step... I've seen a ton of games from Jabari and I can say he has the handle, mid-range, and post game similar to the current Melo... Melo as a HS senior versus Jabari right now??? Jabari is better...
"I didn't like what I seen last game" Are you kidding me?? Like one game of your viewing automatically throws out countless hours it spent scouting this kid?? FOH...
No one even said "I didn't like what I seen last game". Your little rant seemed stupid buddy. I don't recall a bunch of people saying Dano G was better then melo, but whatever fires your engine.
and folks agreed with it... That's what the point system is right??? Agreeing/disargeeing what people say??? I can't remember who said it, but I do remember getting upset at the amount of ppl agreeing with it... Then the following year Melo is in MVP talks, no one remembers the CRAZY, CRAZY, CRAZY amount of threads about Melo being overrated and Knicks should trade him... Funny thing is a follow a few basketball heads on Twitter and FaceBook... People was commenting on how dumb that sound "Gallo is better than Melo"... Like really? Few people on this site said Melo wasn't a Superstar... Nuggets got the better deal out of the trade because Gallo is for certain going to be an All-Star... LOL... Sometimes y'all have me question my own opinions with some of the ridiculous things said on here and the amount of love it recieves...
Well since you want an exact quote "Personally I thought he looked terrible on TV a week ago"... Then went on to back up your claim like having a nagging injury isn't relevent to his poor play... Am I missing something???
I will say, while once again tuck comes with a rather acerbic and semi-condescending tone, I think he raised a good point about people judging Jabari Parker off of the game they watched on Thursday. This kid is a definite baller and I think his playing in that game was probably not in his best interest in terms of public opinion for those expecting to see the #2 player in the country (by many). He is actually sitting this next week out and is still coming back from an injury that kept him out a large portion of the summer.
From having seen Jabari play the last couple of years, can say that he does remind me of a Carmelo type player, maybe not with the same type of athleticism, though his is slightly deceiving. He is a flat out dangerous scorer at times, has a very smooth shooting motion and can contribute to the game in a variety of facets. People seem to be down on him due to a "what have you done for me lately?" type of attitude, just still tend to believe that Jabari is the guy right after Wiggins in 2013. He has a defined position and role with a chance to be a very nice consolation for some team in 2014. Think he and Wiggins have definite All-Star potential at the SF, which is a position that can use more of it. Judging him off of a game where he is a shell of his normal self is discounting that he is still in recovery and will more than likely be back to his normal, dominant level once that happens.
on this site... Either they like what you say or don't... It doesn't matter... You can have a wonderful Topic and post done up with quality references and research STILL get neg... This not even me, I've seen a few people who had legit arguments about something (some things I didn't agree with) and still get neg... What the Keef song say?? "A Puck Ninja that's the Hit I don't like"... Majority of the folks here are that... I'll give credit when credit is due... I will even say I'm wrong, but I have short temper for people who discredit people's work without leaving a comment... I also have a short temper for people who are too lazy to do their research before opening their mouth... I'm sorry but taking one year's worth of basketball play and thinking it's golden is absurd to me... Some people are worse and take 16 games... Or like Wolf just did and take only one lonely ass game... I understand it's a free world and people are entitled to their opinions, I get that... I just think majority of us are of age to do the work and research before making unjustified comments...
Believe it or not all you guys are responsible for what people think in the basketball world... It's not as acclaim as a Skip Bayless, but still relevent... You can type in LeBron's overrated or D12 and instantly a few threads from this site comes up on Google... You think a post that receives 8+ likes about how Dano is better than Melo doesn't alter someone's opinion on him especially when Melo is playing terrible??? Journalists are taking the easy way out now... I've seen a couple Topics on this site the "surpisingly" became blog posts or articles a week later... If you are on Twitter follow Black Sports Online dude... He might be the worst... That guy never do his homework and it's sad that he is well respected...
If you do not agree with someone, say it, that is fine. Just to make a blanket generalization kind of makes it seem like you are looking down on just about everybody. I think a lot of people do not get your references or maybe do not feel they are as funny as you may (for instance, think dropping all the n-bomb's in the "Boondocks" post you did that one time went over most peoples heads. Plus, who is Keef? I listen to hip-hop, just do not get that reference). Remember you once saying "b!tches love the way I speak". Well, that may be so, we are not them, though. Think sometimes you have to give respect to get it.
Definitely feel some of the negging here is ridiculous, particularly on posts that have their $hit together. However, you can take that in a number of different ways. One thing I know that tends to get negs is people not being able to admit they are wrong. At the same time, things change and peoples opinions can change as well. I remember people saying stuff about Josh being better than Melo (never bought it, believe I stated so), do not remember Danilo being in that convo though it could have happened. So what? You do not have to buy it and you would have been right. Feel good about that and move on.
I am also not a huge fan of the "what have you done for me lately?" or as I call it "Janet Jackson" type attitude. The thing is, not everyone watches the same amount of basketball or has the access/desire to do so. A lot of different types of fans on here, all of whom love basketball, some just have a different type of love or perception. Believe me, there are posts on here that make my head want to explode, just feel that usually does not do much good for anybody. Why not try to educate someone rather than go on a manifesto about everyone? Just my perception on what you could maybe do differently to buck the "neg trend" yourself. You know your stuff and are confident in your opinion, though if you maybe changed your tone a tad and maybe took things a bit more lightly, people would respond better.
I compare Jabari Parker to Nicolas Batum or Grant Hill with his savvy game, versatility and IQ. I dont see him having the same scoring instinct Carmelo had. He was THE dynamic scorer on a loaded Oak Hill squad, and was getting looks as an NBA two guard with his creative ball handling, inside out game and his threat from deep. He became more of a pure SF after gaining weight in college and showing little passing ability, but still averaging 10 rebounds a game.
Parker is more of a 22-8-6 guy in his prime. Not the 28-7-3 guy Carmelo is.
Havent seen the kid play a full game, only seen highlights, ahh you mentioned Grant Hill-wish the ankle injuries didnt take away his greatness, he was something else in those ugly Pistons Jerseys.
Back to Jabari, I'll be watching him next fall wherever he goes to
Mormon version of Jereme Richmond. Not based off one game. I have never been a fan of his. Good feel for the game but doesn't have the athleticism to dominate at the next level that his size and competition allow him to now. Robert Smith did say he would be the best player to come out of Simeon but I don't see whatever everyone else does.....
I'm not sure why people always say Beasley and Derrick Williams compared to Carmelo coming out of college because as I remember it, Beasley was this super-smooth, super-stoned Derrick Coleman 2.0 SF/PF tweener coming out and Williams was a PF/SF tweener who used his supreme power and athleticism to dominate at the college level.
Carmelo was a Small Forward who had a silky smooth mid-range game and was powerful with his back to the basket or when driving to the hoop. He did however have one of the same negatives as Beasley and Williams did coming out: awful on defense.
i think that they are almost the same but with different motors. Melo is my favorite player but before this year he played only when the game was big enough. It seem like Jabari play hard every game. But at the high school level Jabari is more explosive at the rim. He will never have the Jab step or Jumper that Melo got tho.
2012 IHSA Boys Class 4A Championship - Proviso East vs Simeon
Melo wasn't this prolific scorer in HS either... His entire HS career he only averaged 22 points... He WAS capable of doing much more, just like Jabari... Are people using Melo today vs. Jabari today??? Melo didn't have that post game until like his 3rd to 4th year in the league... He was VERY jump shot happy until Karl told him to go to the cup more... He dominated in College because he owned that elbow/free throw line area with the ability to hit tough shots... Melo was barely 220 lbs as a HS freshman... Jabari weighed that LAST year... I really think Jabari plays like KD going to the rack and handles with Melo's post/mid-range game... Probably not as efficient as these guys NOW... But with their moves at this age and a good motor/personality I don't see why he can't be Melo if not better... That's just my assesment though...
The other comparison mentioned on his profile page is Paul Pierce so could he perhaps be more like him scoring wise than Melo. I can see parts of Melo's game in Jabari but not the explosiveness that Melo has. I would discount Parker's recent game as he only just returned from injury and needs to get his sharpness back and will shed the little extra bulk he is carrying fairly quickly.
If Parker's not a Melo type player, I don't know if he's going to be Pierce either. Pierce was a better scorer in his prime than Melo due to a much better three point stroke. He also possessed a great first step and got to the line as much if not more than Melo did.
As many of you stated comparing JP to Melo is an unfair one because Melo was a different type of player then. JP has great skill as a 3, Melo is a 2 that gained weight. I don't see JP having the scoring ability because he doesn't have the moves that Melo has. Since High School Melo has transformed from a 2 to a 3 to a 4 and has been ultra successful and comfortable at all three positions. I've watched ton's of JP and I'm still not convinced that he will be a great Pro.
The comparison between Melo and Parker is faulty. Like Siggy said, Melo's always had an explosive first step. He's loved the long-two but what's kept him from being Beasley is how aggressively he attacks the basket, despite getting his shot blocked as much as anybody in the game, which translates to getting to the line. Parker has the versatile scoring game that Melo has, at least against high school defenders but without the quick pace. Unless you're an elite shooter, which I don't think Parker is, you have to be unstoppable off the dribble to be an elite perimeter player. I don't think Parker's shown that ability.
Parker reminds me more of Joe Johnson without the excessive and unappealing 18 dribble iso game. Both are more smooth than quick and explosive, possess very good handles and have floaters once they get into the lane.