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- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 11:28am #45228
MUbballfanParticipantCan’t wait to watch him next year.
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druneave3ParticipantFits, he will be an average NBA player.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 11:35am #734544
druneave3Participant^
Kyrie Irving doesn’t count, only played 11 games.
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/21/2012 - 11:56am #734758
akhan786ParticipantWhy does it matter how many games he played under Coach K? What do you think he would’ve been worse if he played a full season at Duke?
Asinine. Kyrie is a Dukie for life as much as it pains so many haters to say it.
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- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 11:36am #734545
Lebron’s HairlineParticipantWait so will he play the 4 since Rodney Hood is coming back? As a UNC fan I’m depressed… Well at least I can bank on the I’m chance of Wiggins picking us
0- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 2:24pm #734592
jwostrumParticipanti think the chance of us getting wiggins jumped dramaticallly. he will not only play parker more if he picks carolina, but also he will have a chance of winning the game, unlike with fsu.
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- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 11:37am #734543
Hi its BenParticipantlol really?^
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 11:41am #734546
Sewok15ParticipantI think he is overhyped quite a bit myself. I think he will be a decent NBA player but I don’t see him being a perennial all-star like some are predicting. 5 points in a televised HS game isn’t a good sign even though he is coming back from an injury. He will fit well in Dukes system and will surely i further mprove his all around game under Coach K but I don’t see him being anything more than a Luol Deng type player which isn’t really a bad thing considering he is a 16ppg career player. He might make an all-star game or two but I don’t see him being the best player on a championship caliber team.
0- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 11:54am #734549
druneave3ParticipantDeng comparison is good. Not an elite athlete, I think he will also struggle to get his own shot in the NBA much like Deng, as well as being able to finish. He is a better passer and has a better feel for the game though, savvy, and has better mid-range. Definitely not #1 option on a championship team, like Deng. Same size, similar body, and both a bit awkward in their movement but Parker much smoother. Both struggle to move their feet.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:08pm #734555
Sewok15Participant-5 for saying he is overhyped….Come on people he was on the cover of Si and was called the next Lebron. I am not saying he will be a bust but the guy was talked up so much. Watching tape of both players it is obvious why Wiggins is ranked ahead of him. Wiggins has that superstar potential that sets him apart. I think Jabari will be a great college player but I don’t see him being a superstar in the NBA.
0- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:42pm #734566
Bird_YearsParticipantSI said he was “the best High School player since Lebron”, just based upon his achievements in High School, they didn’t imply that he was the best pro prospect since Lebron.
But I agree that Wiggins should be ranked ahead of him, especially cause I’m from Toronto and I hope Wiggins wants to make a return and make the raps relevant again
0- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 6:56pm #734658
Sewok15ParticipantSaying someone is the best HS player since LeBron (who SI catapulted to stardom as a high schooler) insinuates that he will be the best pro prospect since LeBron as well. After all people aren’t getting the magazine to read about HS basketball. They want to know who is next on the NCAA scene (for a year) and of course the NBA. Putting someone on the cover of SI isn’t just a look how good of a HS player this kid is…it is look who is the next big thing like we predicted just like Lebron 10 years ago. If you think any differently about SI’s intentions you know nothing about marketing.
I am American but would still love to see Wiggins play for the Raptors and have them be a relevant squad for the first time since Vince Carter was around.
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- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 11:47am #734547
McDunkinsucks for Alex Murphy though
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:00pm #734551
TearDropsParticipantWigginsis going to Kentucky
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:01pm #734552
TearDropsParticipantWiggins is going to Kentucky
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:04pm #734554
MUbballfanParticipantWiggins is going to Florida State
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:18pm #734556
Dale WorthingtonParticipantThis dude’s hype is warranted a la Harrison Barnes. Will be decent in the pros but nothing special.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:30pm #734562
Sewok15ParticipantSo the hype is warranted but he is nothing special? Which is it?
0- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 1:09pm #734577
Dale WorthingtonParticipantMy bad, won’t let me edit…his hype is UNwarranted.
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- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:42pm #734565
M.GarveyParticipantHe’s incredible smooth with the roc, can pass, and some nice post moves at the HS level. While I think he lacks Wiggins hops, the jump shot is the ultimate equalizer, I’ll wait until next year to make a judgement on whether he’s Grant Hill, Carmelo, Loul Deng or just Gordon Hayward
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:50pm #734567
A Shitty MockAside from Wiggins you can say anybody from the 2013 will be ok and nothing special and that’s fine with Me,
BUT Jabari, Jabari is going to be a beast… his game is super advanced already. His shot is WET, most importantly off the dribble.
People should forget last game Jabari even played, THAT WAS NOT HIM!!!!!
This guy will be an all star, count on it.
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Deng only wishes he had Jabari’s game off the dribble or handles… and Gordon Hayward… Really? GORDON HAYWARD???0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 12:58pm #734570
A Shitty MockJust watch all the Jabari haters disappear when he starts killing it again!!!
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 1:01pm #734572
M.GarveyParticipantI went first ballot hall of famer (no ankle surgery) to Star aka God of FIBA bball to good #2 guy, to a decent guy who can shoot a bit
Maybe Hayward was a bad name but I couldn’t think of anyone. Like I said I have seen one full game of his which is on YouTube, the 4A championship, so I’m waiting to make a judgment call on him.0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 1:06pm #734575
Wahoo757ParticipantHere’s to hoping he stays for two years so I can watch him play live at John Paul Jones Arena. Although it’s highly unlikely considering how talented this dude is.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 1:22pm #734582
NorthBoundBallParticipantI don’t know if they will ever go head to head in High School but College is looking strong as of now. There is no way Wiggins goes to Kentucky, Wiggins all summer long wanted to challenge Jabari, now FSU is an easy choice for him. Jab vs Wigg.
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/21/2012 - 11:38am #734752
MUbballfanParticipantIf its Jabari that Wiggins wants, he’d be better suited going to UNC in that case. Still in the ACC, but now his team is Jabari’s team’s biggest rival and they would play a minimum of twice.
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- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 2:25pm #734591
Ghost01ParticipantI love how many people have only watched this guy play in youtube videos and everyone who has actually followed him thinks hes going to be a straight up stud, but you guys are the real geniuses, you know hes going to be “just decent”, because those youtube videos revealed all to you.
Major difference with Harrison Barnes: Playing in Iowa isn’t winning 3 (maybe 4) straight state titles in Chicago. He will be an absolute force for Duke, and I think Wiggins is as big a stud you will see come out but they are both great. Assuming Cook and Suliamon don’t go pro, with Rod Hood joining the mix, Duke looks to have a great squad again next year.
0- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 2:26pm #734593
SiggyParticipantA major difference b/t Jabari and Barnes is the difference in ball skills. Both could shoot, but Jabari’s a better ball-handler and passer with a better knack for creating his own offense off the bounce. Jabari’s floor game is way better than Barnes, who, when he puts the ball down looks like a horse with blinders on.
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- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 2:27pm #734594
dolla130Participantcrazy how he is being called over hyped when almost everyone on this site thinks shabazz is the second best thing since water if anyone is overrated its him , jabari is 10x the player, yeah he put on a few pounds but he is working his way back from his injury ,he is a silky smooth player,a guy who will make his team better just by being on the court he is super talented, great shooter, has a great offensive game already at such a young age, can pass, rebound and a good post game and is a very good athlete, crazy to say hes overrated
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/21/2012 - 11:41am #734754
MUbballfanParticipantShabazz is not overrated, but Jabari is better imo. Shabazz is averaging 18 ppg on like 48% plus he’s still working his way back from injury/suspension.
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- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 4:13pm #734608
BlueRivers25Participant2012-2013
Starters:
Cook
Suliamon
Hood
Parker
MarshallBench:
Thornton
Hairston
Jefferson
Murphy
Semi
JonesHahahaha hahahahaha
0- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 4:48pm #734616
sameolGParticipantDon’t forget Andre Dawkins is coming back too!
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- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 4:48pm #734618
omphalosParticipantGreat decision by Parker; Coach K has a history of helping skilled SFs improve their draft stock and Parker is the best SF prospect he’s had in a long time.
If Wiggins chose UNC this would be a great rivalry.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 6:03pm #734647
akhan786ParticipantWith the amount of talent on Duke’s roster next year, Jabari picked a great situation where he can adjust to the college game slowly.
To be honest, I don’t know if he’ll be the best player on the team but I think reasonable numbers to expect would be 12-14 ppg 6-7 rpg and 4 apg.
It’ll be interesting to see if he’ll stay more than one year, because this kid really seems to want an education.
Really glad he committed to Duke since he is pretty much the perfect Duke kid.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 6:41pm #734655
Sewok15ParticipantDeng Averaged 15 and 7 as a freshmen at Duke and went pro. He is a very good pro but not great. That is what Parker will be in my opinion. I am getting killed for saying he is overhyped but a lot of it stems from Sports Illustrated comparing him to Lebron. The next Lebron isn’t even on the radar yet but everyone is looking for the next big thing. Wiggins is closer to that potential but even that is an extreme stretch.
Parker seems like a good kid and I have nothing against him but from what I have seen I am not overly impressed. I am a Duke hater but even I can say that he made a good decision. Coach K is a great coach but seems to be better at coaching teams than individuals. That is probably why he is the perfect Team USA coach and an amazing college coach but isn’t really known for developing pros despite bringing in great talent. Jabari will fit like a glove in Coach K’s system and appear worthy of a #2 overall selection but I would put him closer to 5th as far as NBA potential goes.
0- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 7:17pm #734662
akhan786Participant“isn’t really known for developing pros ”
One of the biggest myths in NBA development and college coaches. College coaches are supposed to get their kids drafted high in the NBA.
Their success from then on is all on them. Calipari did his job by getting Anthony Davis and MKG drafted #1 and #2. If they somehow turn out to be busts (I don’t think they will but I’m just using this as an example) it shouldn’t be counted as a negative on Calipari because he did all he could.
I do however agree with you that Jabari may not be a perennial All-Star guy and his ceiling is somewhere near Luol Deng with the potential to be better because he has a better handle at a younger age.
People say Jabari is overrated but I don’t think so. Their opinion is based on one magazine that got a little ahead of themselves and posted Jabari on the cover without asking the Parkers themselves.
If you actually have been following his recruitment I think his hype is just at the right place and no rational person thinks Jabari is the best recruit since Lebron hell Jabari isn’t even the best recruit in his class and a case could be made imo that he’s behind Julius Randle as well.
Regardless, I’m ecstatic that my favorite program is getting a fine young man like Jabari. Should be a great representative of Duke University even if he doesn’t become a star in the pros.
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/21/2012 - 4:23am #734689
phila9012ParticipantThe lebron comparisons come from him being able to pass and handle the ball really good at a young age. He is no where near as athletic as lebron, I think with duke being stacked next year he should be the focal point of the offense, but he wont have the great stats because there are so many other good players on the team.
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/21/2012 - 11:26am #734745
SiggyParticipantThe comparison came strictly from accolades and achievements, not their actual games or pro potential . Jabari’s the most highly decorated HS basketball player since Lebron.
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- Posted on: Thu, 12/20/2012 - 7:34pm #734666
NiceWithTheRockParticipant“I got the hottest prospect in the game wearing my chain” Coach K
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/21/2012 - 12:35am #734684
theballerwayParticipantwhere Randles gonna go, he was looking at Duke too wasnt he. His buddy jones also signed there. Roy.Williams better get on the phone asap.
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/21/2012 - 11:36am #734749
SiggyParticipantHe already eliminated Duke off his list a while ago. One thing that Randle has made clear throughout the recruiting process is that he wants to have the freedom to play his game. He doesn’t want to be pigeonholed as a big man and he wants the freedom to create off the dribble from the perimeter. That’s probably why he took Duke off of his list.
Sounds like he’ll favor teams with less structure and more freedom. I also get the feeling he wants to be the man. Considering all that, my best guess is that Texas is the favorite.0- Posted on: Fri, 12/21/2012 - 11:55am #734757
akhan786ParticipantRandle didn’t eliminate Duke because he thought he wouldn’t be able to play on the perimeter and on the inside. Some of Duke’s best teams have players that can go inside and out like that exhibit A Ryan Kelly this year.
Randle eliminated Duke and UNC because he already knows where he wants to go and Roy and K told him in their in homes to not string them along if he already knew.
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/21/2012 - 12:08pm #734761
SiggyParticipantRandle’s perimeter game is dribble-drive based. He’s not a good shooter. He likes to catch and hold, play with the ball then make his move. He is very much an iso player. IMO, not very fitting for a team who moves the ball on the perimeter as much as Duke does.
If he already knows where he wants to go then he should announce, otherwise he risks having his spot being taken by others. Like if he has his mind made up that he wants to go to Kentucky, he could get beat to the punch by Wiggins or Gordon. Then what would he do? I think he’s still weighing his options and will wait to see who might turn pro.
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- Posted on: Fri, 12/21/2012 - 11:43am #734755
MUbballfanParticipantIf Wiggins were to pick UNC the Duke/UNC games next year could be 2 of the most hyped games in CBB history.
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