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    FastAndFurious
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    ASAP Henry
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    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if I were the Sam Presti I would have traded Westbrook instead of Harden. I get that Westbrook is a stud, but I think Harden is a much more mature player who fits in better to a team system. Westbrook is a little too immature (check his post-game interviews and that annoying dance he does whenever he makes a 3). OKC could have gotten a lot in return for Westbrook. Could have traded him to Boston for Rondo and a draft pick probably. Yes, OKC is still a top 3 team in the NBA, but I seriously think they could have beat the Heat this year if the had kept Harden over Westbrook. Harden is much more of a team player. Westbrook I still have my doubts about u!!!

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  • #749647
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    IDK about that.

    Westbrook has gotten better each year he’s been in the League and while it’s not all because of Westbrook alot of the Thunders year by year success has alot to do with Westbrook, each year he’s gotten better the Thunder have won more regular season games and went further in the playoffs.

    Westbrook has never been hurt and he’s the best athlete at his position, he rebounds,defends, and averages more assist and takes better care of the ball(by a slight margin) than Harden.

    Westbrooks positives outweigh his negatives a ton, I’d kept Westbrook, and you see the Thunder made it a point to keep Westbrook instead of Harden….there’s a reason for that.

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      Comparing a PG’s assists to a SG’s assists hardly seems fair.

      And while Westbrook does the other things basically as well as Harden or better, there is a huge difference in their scoring ability. Harden is way ahead of Westbrook as a scorer. Look at shooting percentages. Harden has an elite 60% TS%. (And this is the third year in a row where his percentage has been elite.) Westbrook has a below league average 52% TS% (and this is now the fifth year of his shooting percentage being kind of meh). Now of course Westbrook takes hard shots and lots of them, so I’m not going to say that Westbrook is a bad scorer or even say that he is average scorer. He is good. But when Harden tries to score he is much much more likely to get points than Westbrook. There is just no comparison. You can’t just ignore all the missed shots and empty offensive possessions, they do actually matter.

      Finally to put this difference into comparison, this difference is about the same difference between Lebron James (63%) and Gallinari (56%). That is how huge the gulf is between these guys on an efficiency level.

      I still say keep the squad together and worry about the financials when they actually become a problem. But yes, Harden is better than Westbrook. No question in my mind. And Westbrook is having a fantastic year. And he might get better. But Harden will probably also get better.

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    ASAP is right westbrook is immature, harden is a better fit on ock then Westbrook, westbrook takes a lot of poor shots, as for harden he attacks the rim and is more of a threat offensively then Westbrook because of his penetration to the rim, Westbrook is more of a 2 then a 1 and he doesn’t get anyone in the offense involved. If they were to trade rondo for westbrook they would be more of a tougher team to beat because rondo impacts the game in many ways and would get the ball to harden and durant when they want it. Ock is still a great team with Westbrook, but I remember a year ago they asked gms around the league who would they prefer Westbrook or harden and I think around 80% said harden that’s pretty impressive if u ask me. Harden is showing the nba he doesn’t need durant or Westbrook to be a winner and to do that in the west conference is hell of an achievement.

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