[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Is he one and done?  I think he should stay one more year but with the CBA, he might leave.

Franchise player?  I think he’s going to be a very good NBA player, possibly a 20-10 guy, but I have a hard time calling 20-10 guys franchise players, but sure fire special big for the next decade.

Comparison?  I like to say Elton Brand, not tall but has long arms, good wingspan and really uses his body and is skilled with his back to the basket, which is rare now a days.

[the lake show]

Simply put. No one has even the slightest idea if he will become a franchise player. Being only a freshman he has alooong way to go until he gets into his prime years. One thing i said last year and i will repeat, This kid is pretty athletic for his size and gets up quicker and higher than some people think. He has dunked on a couple of 6’9 and above big men off the drop step. His game isn’t based on using his jumping ability which is good but he can get up higher then people think (kinda like Love and his 35inch vert). I like how he uses his basketball IQ in order to beat big men who jump higher, he does what you are supposed to do and that’s use you’re body to bang into the player before going up and that negates his ability to jump high to block you’re shot.

It’s very hard to figure out who is gonna be a franchise type player players that people figured would be good but wasn’t screaming " he’s gonna be a franchise player" are

Dwill

Paul P

KG

CP3

Kobe

Broy

Amare

Wade

Melo

You do have some who people knew (as much as you think you can know) would be franchise players

Shaq

Yao

Tim Duncan

LeBron

[the lake show]

Simply put. No one has even the slightest idea if he will become a franchise player. Being only a freshman he has alooong way to go until he gets into his prime years. One thing i said last year and i will repeat, This kid is pretty athletic for his size and gets up quicker and higher than some people think. He has dunked on a couple of 6’9 and above big men off the drop step. His game isn’t based on using his jumping ability which is good but he can get up higher then people think (kinda like Love and his 35inch vert). I like how he uses his basketball IQ in order to beat big men who jump higher, he does what you are supposed to do and that’s use you’re body to bang into the player before going up and that negates his ability to jump high to block you’re shot.

It’s very hard to figure out who is gonna be a franchise type player players that people figured would be good but wasn’t screaming " he’s gonna be a franchise player" are

Dwill

Paul P

KG

CP3

Kobe

Broy

Amare

Wade

Melo

You do have some who people knew (as much as you think you can know) would be franchise players

Shaq

Yao

Tim Duncan

LeBron

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

I see him as Kevin Love minus the court vision and passing ability, not as good as Love but similar body and player. At worst he can be a better rebounding version of Carl Landry.

Is he a franchise player? To me, NO. He’s not a game changing big man and doesn’t provide the defensive presence to be a franchise PF. I also question his conditioning, will he be another Sean May? So it really makes me question whether he’s worth a top 5 selection.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

I see him as Kevin Love minus the court vision and passing ability, not as good as Love but similar body and player. At worst he can be a better rebounding version of Carl Landry.

Is he a franchise player? To me, NO. He’s not a game changing big man and doesn’t provide the defensive presence to be a franchise PF. I also question his conditioning, will he be another Sean May? So it really makes me question whether he’s worth a top 5 selection.

[kobyzParticipant]

at first i compared him to Luis Scola, i thought of him that in the NBA he is someone who score and put numbers but not bring much success to the team and play horrible defense, now i started to see that he is somewhat more athletic and more complete than i thought and i increase his comparison to Carlos Boozer but that at best!

[kobyzParticipant]

at first i compared him to Luis Scola, i thought of him that in the NBA he is someone who score and put numbers but not bring much success to the team and play horrible defense, now i started to see that he is somewhat more athletic and more complete than i thought and i increase his comparison to Carlos Boozer but that at best!

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Isnt it funny, that if Sullinger was 7 feet and playing the way that he is ,he’ll be called a franchise player?

And everyone would be saying he’s the numer 1 overall pick…..

But since he’s 6’8 everyone is saying he’s not a franchise player? People are saying he’s a top 5 pick….

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Isnt it funny, that if Sullinger was 7 feet and playing the way that he is ,he’ll be called a franchise player?

And everyone would be saying he’s the numer 1 overall pick…..

But since he’s 6’8 everyone is saying he’s not a franchise player? People are saying he’s a top 5 pick….

[the lake show]

^^ thats so true. so many people base everything on height more than skill

[the lake show]

^^ thats so true. so many people base everything on height more than skill

[B-ball fanParticipant]

There is a big difference between a 7 footer and someone who is 6’8" in the NBA.  A 7 footer with Sullinger’s skills would be much more dominant offensively and defensively. They probably would have injury issues, though.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

There is a big difference between a 7 footer and someone who is 6’8" in the NBA.  A 7 footer with Sullinger’s skills would be much more dominant offensively and defensively. They probably would have injury issues, though.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Yes, a big reason why hes not a franchise PF is because of his height and explosiveness. Hes 6’8 and he barely makes any impact on the defensive end in college, hes averaging 0.5BPG, ive seen college guards average more than that. Thats why I can’t call him a franchise player, and thats why I dont think he warrants a top 5 selection. Hes good on the offensive side, but offers very little on defense.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Yes, a big reason why hes not a franchise PF is because of his height and explosiveness. Hes 6’8 and he barely makes any impact on the defensive end in college, hes averaging 0.5BPG, ive seen college guards average more than that. Thats why I can’t call him a franchise player, and thats why I dont think he warrants a top 5 selection. Hes good on the offensive side, but offers very little on defense.

[the lake show]

You dont have to be explosive or very tall to be a franchise player. That seems to be a big misconception among fans

[the lake show]

You dont have to be explosive or very tall to be a franchise player. That seems to be a big misconception among fans

[the lake show]

Just like you dont have to be real tall or very fast to be a franchise point guard. I already made a list of players who no one was labeling franchise players while they were in college but they ended up becoming franchise players. I’m not sure that it matters anyway because no Franchise play wins alone. You dont have to be a franchise player to win a title and be a allstar

[the lake show]

Just like you dont have to be real tall or very fast to be a franchise point guard. I already made a list of players who no one was labeling franchise players while they were in college but they ended up becoming franchise players. I’m not sure that it matters anyway because no Franchise play wins alone. You dont have to be a franchise player to win a title and be a allstar

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

He is very skilled,but yeah if he was 7 feet he would be a beast. In the NBA I think he will be good,but he won’t bully guys the same by being a lot stronger. He bullies guys in college. Guys in the NBA at his position will be taller just as strong and seen it all. I think his medium range jumper will help him have a very strong NBA career,but he won’t physically dominate guys on a regular basis like in college.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

He is very skilled,but yeah if he was 7 feet he would be a beast. In the NBA I think he will be good,but he won’t bully guys the same by being a lot stronger. He bullies guys in college. Guys in the NBA at his position will be taller just as strong and seen it all. I think his medium range jumper will help him have a very strong NBA career,but he won’t physically dominate guys on a regular basis like in college.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

so can you name me a franchise PF that is no taller than 6’8 with below average explosiveness? And going back to the 80s and 70s dont count because players were shorter back then. Usually if your a great undersized PF/C, they usually have something to make up for it whether its explosiveness (Barkley) or an elite wingspan (Elton Brand), Jared Sullinger has below average explosivess and its clear that his wingspan is no more than average because he doesn’t block any shots.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

so can you name me a franchise PF that is no taller than 6’8 with below average explosiveness? And going back to the 80s and 70s dont count because players were shorter back then. Usually if your a great undersized PF/C, they usually have something to make up for it whether its explosiveness (Barkley) or an elite wingspan (Elton Brand), Jared Sullinger has below average explosivess and its clear that his wingspan is no more than average because he doesn’t block any shots.

[MBRHParticipant]

 the ignorance in these posts….

[MBRHParticipant]

 the ignorance in these posts….

[arman]

 sullinger will surprise everyone and end up being second best player(behind Kemba) in this class…Eddy Curry had size,explosivnes and retarded wingspan,where is he now ?

[arman]

 sullinger will surprise everyone and end up being second best player(behind Kemba) in this class…Eddy Curry had size,explosivnes and retarded wingspan,where is he now ?

[DanEboyParticipant]

^ Kemba Walker will not be the best players in this class. Not if Irving comes out.

[DanEboyParticipant]

^ Kemba Walker will not be the best players in this class. Not if Irving comes out.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Arman, you have said some wild stuff on some posts lately..And i keep quite becuz i was Respecting your thoughts and Comments until you said Kemba Walker is the best player in the 2011 Draft Class..That is completely Foolish…Are you related to him? Becuz Walker will be  drafted in the 10 to 25 range …

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Arman, you have said some wild stuff on some posts lately..And i keep quite becuz i was Respecting your thoughts and Comments until you said Kemba Walker is the best player in the 2011 Draft Class..That is completely Foolish…Are you related to him? Becuz Walker will be  drafted in the 10 to 25 range …

[JoeWolf1]

 Lol, of course height makes a big difference, especially when you’re talking 4”, It’s easy to say if Sullinger was 4” taller people would be talking about him being #1 overall, take it the other way and if Sullinger was a 6’4” and playing the way he is?  P.J. Tucker was a 6’5” power forward who averaged like 16 pts and 10 rbs close to Sullinger and he was a 2nd rounder.  

1 or 2” either way I’ll give you that, scouts will take a less skilled 6’9” or 6’10” guy over a 6’8” guy with game and get burnt I agree there, but 4” in position changing, 4” more and he’s the next dominant center #1 pick and 4” less and he’s an early 2nd rounder at best.

[JoeWolf1]

 Lol, of course height makes a big difference, especially when you’re talking 4”, It’s easy to say if Sullinger was 4” taller people would be talking about him being #1 overall, take it the other way and if Sullinger was a 6’4” and playing the way he is?  P.J. Tucker was a 6’5” power forward who averaged like 16 pts and 10 rbs close to Sullinger and he was a 2nd rounder.  

1 or 2” either way I’ll give you that, scouts will take a less skilled 6’9” or 6’10” guy over a 6’8” guy with game and get burnt I agree there, but 4” in position changing, 4” more and he’s the next dominant center #1 pick and 4” less and he’s an early 2nd rounder at best.

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