[CodySLCParticipant]

I don’t care if this is a so called "weak draft" I still can’t help but be excited. I’m hoping Williams will fall to us. But if not, if Kanter can be a true Center I wouldnt be mad if we took him. Tho we are already have enough bigs in Jefferson, Millsap, Evens, and Favors. Maybe we reach for Knight at 3? At 12 I hope Burkes is their. If not I’m hoping for Leonard.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Let’s say the 1st three picks look like this…1. Cavs-K.Irving 2. Wolves-D.Williams 3. Jazz-E.Kanter…then with the 4th pick the Jazz draft-J.Vessely and start a frontline of Vessely, Favors and Kanter…if they land a 2g like Burks with the 12th pick, its a home run draft…I still see them taking Jimmer with the 12th pick but Burks would be a steal for them too…

[butidonthavemoney]

That would be a dream come true, but there’s no way the Cavs give up the #4 pick for Al Jefferson unless more is involved.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Big Al would be better suited back east, he’s a great Big man, almost all star caliber, I can see the Cavs loving him and CJ for the 4th pick straight up…they got they best gift in the draft with the 1st pick, time to get aggressive if your the Jazz, step up and get that pick…only untouchable players should be Favors, Hayward, Harris, Kanter(3rd overall), Fredette(12th overall) and maybe Millsap…Big Al and any other combo of players can definitely get a good pick from one of the lottery losers with cash to spare, the Raptors come to mind although they want to keep the 5th pick for Knight or Kemba…either them or the Cavs would be my best options to trade Jefferson to…

[CodySLCParticipant]

Id rather keep big Al. He could be our Zach Randolph in the playoffs. None of the remaining players could handle the load down low.

[scootover7Participant]

This might be a stretch possibly but with the 3rd pick i feel that this team should select Jan Vesely.  He’s 6’11 and if AK doesn’t want to be on the Jazz I think this guy could come in and help out.  With the 12th pick if he’s on the board I feel they shoudl take Alec Burks.  IF not then you take either Klay Thompson who is  a 6’6′ Shooting Guard or Jimmer. 

[HitsterParticipant]

Assuming that Williams and Irving go at 1 and 2 in either order then Utah will effectively have first shot at the rest with 3rd pick. I cannot honestly see them being able to trade up as Cleveland will use the first pick and the T-Wolves have draft picks coming out of their ears.

I would say that Brandon Knight is an obvious choice to be considered at 3 as he can develop alongside and around Devon Harris but Vesley is also another logical pick perhaps more so than Kanter or Valanciunas given they have a fairly deep frontcourt already and in Derrick Favours have a long term prospect with high upside. I certainly liked Vesley as an option for them at 6 but 3 might be a bit of a stretch.

[mj23mj23besteverParticipant]

if utah offered big al or the 76rs offered iggy for the 4 the cavs should do it imo getting an established all star caliber player would greatly help clevelands rebuilding process

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 Big AL has a huge contract, and CJ has a contract of 3.7mil. Besides CJ is a free agent next year. Which means the Jazz will not be able to trade him until he is signed. That can’t even happen until after the draft, so I don’t see the Jazz Big AL to the Cavs. I am open to the Jazz trading Jefferson but I don’t think it will be with the Cavs or the Raptors. Why because the Cavs will need to trade a big contract in order to receive Big AL because he has a big contract. The only big contracts they have are Baron Davis and Antwan Jamison. These are two players that I know the Jazz do not want. The Cavs would have to offer the Jazz not only thier 4th pick but also some other picks as well a bunch of players that have small contracts but are also not that good of players. So I don’t think the Cavs in the end would interest the Jazz that much.

The 76ers are a more possible option but there is another problem there too. We all know that Big AL is more truly a PF and does not do well at C. The 76ers already have a good 4 in Elton Brand. True, he is old but he isn’t likely to be moved as his contract is also pretty big. The Jazz would be interested in Iggy, no doubt about that, but unless Brand is moved as well, Jefferson would have to play Center and we all know that is not a good idea. The Jazz and Wolves have already tried that experiment, both have not worked out to well. Jefferson needs to go to a team that needs a PF.

My option for a trade involving Jefferson would be the Pacers. But that is also a longshot. The player that the Jazz would receive in return is Danny Granger. The Pacers might do this to further help Paul George develop. This would give the Pacers a much better 4 (Big AL) and would move Tyler Hansbrough to the bench, a move which most Pacer fans are ok with. Granger is a great SF and would be a great replacement to AK. It is actually very possible that the Jazz do not grab an AK replacement in this draft. Jan Vesely is more of a PF, I think, because he is not a very good ball handler and also not a very free throw shooter. True, he would be a good AK replacement but if he has bad hands, then he will not do so well in the NBA because this is something that cannot be taught and is essential for Small forwards to have. I don’t think the Jazz will want that. The Wizards are reportedly very high on Vesely. The only other SF lottery worthy is Kawhi Leonard. But after a great performace in Las Vegas he too is skyrocketing up draft boards and could be selected as high as 5th to the Raptors. (He would be a bit of a reach if the Jazz selected him with the 3rd pick) So that is why the Jazz should look to trade Jefferson to the Pacers if they do indeed select Enes Kanter with the 3rd.

I also believe that Jefferson, with a little bit of hard work, can become the Jazz’s Zach Randolph of the future. Maybe he won’t play PF like Randolph does. But he can still be the reason why the Jazz make the playoffs next year. He will be one of the older members that Utah will have with AK soon leaving. Consequently he will have the most experience and should be able to help out the youngsters on the Jazz out a lot just like Zach Randolph did for the Grizzlies this year. So now that I have discussed all the possible Jefferson trade offers, and why I think he should not be moved unless the Jazz select Kanter with the 3rd pick, I will move to who I think the Jazz should select with the 3rd and 12th picks.

• 3rd pick: Jazz are reportedly very high on Brandon Knight. So unless somehow Derrick Williams or Kyrie Irving falls to 3, the Jazz should select Knight with their 3rd pick. He has a lot of promise as we all know. He is a gym-rat, plays fast, a very good shooter, developing passing skills, works hard, and he is a big PG. 6’3 to be exact. The Jazz like these kind of PG’s as we all know because they selected Deron Williams over Chris Paul in 2005. Some questioned this pick and thought should have gone for Chris Paul instead. But they have all been proven wrong, and the Jazz used D-will’s size very well. Unfortunately he was traded but now the Jazz can hopefully find his replacement in another big PG, Brandon Knight.
• 12th pick: Jazz can go several options here. They could select Burks if he is available, or they could select Klay Thompson or Chris Singleton or Tobias Harris, or Jordan Hamilton or of course Jimmer. The Jazz despereately an excellent outside shooter, they are among the worst 3pt shooting teams in the league with only two good 3pt shooters. (Hayward and Miles) The Jazz definitely need more 3pt shooters. Burks is not a very good shooter, true he works best in the Jazz’s style of offense since he is a very good passer, but I think it would be better if the Jazz found both a good shooter and a good passer. So that knocks Burks out. (Besides he is also most likely not to be available at 12 since he is the best SG in this draft and could go to the Bucks at 10) Currently this site has the Jazz selecting Klay Thompson. But I’m not buying that he could go lottery. He is not that athletic so I more think his stock is around the mid first round and would therefore be a reach at 12. Singleton or Harris are also options if the Jazz truly want to replace AK. They would good replacements because they both play strong D. Harris is moving up draftboards and I do think he is a sleeper in this draft. Or the Jazz could select Jordan Hamilton who could go anywhere from late lottery to mid first round. We all know that he would work great in the Jazz offense as it is the same offense that he played in at Texas. (This was already previously discussed in another thread)  His drive (motivation and hard work) is not that good, but he is an excellent outside shooter so he might be too good to pass up. So with the 12th pick, I’m hoping that the Jazz select either Tobias Harris or Jordan Hamilton. 

Thoughts?

[CoolidgerParticipant]

Replying to your potential picks, I have to agree that they should take Brandon Knight with the 3rd pick. the frontcourt is loaded with Al Jefferson & Paul Millsap, both very good players. Then, you have Derrick Favors & Jeremy Evans, two rookie big men last year who are athletic, and have lots of potential (especially Favors). Oh, and people forget Mehmet Okur, this guy was an all star 3 years ago. I know he had a slow year last year but he was dealing with injuries. When he’s healthy, while he likely won’t be an all star again, he’s still a good big guy with 3 point range.

 

Then you look at the other 3 positions (PG, SG, SF) and they have Harris, Miles, Hayward & Raja Bell under contract. That’s 4 people to man 3 positions, I think they need more help there then the front court.

 

As for their second choice, I could see it being Jordan Hamilton, but I think that Tobias Harris is a bit of a stretch for the lottery, and consider him more of a mid first rounder. Also, I could see them taking Klay Thompson. The lottery isn’t that much of a stretch, he’s likely the second best pure SG in the draft, a position they need some more help in. Also, you said it yourself. They need more outside shooting. Yes, well, Klay Thompson is not an athletic player, neither is Gordon Hayward, yet they had no problem taking him 9th overall last year.

[kobyzParticipant]

why for Utah to take Kanter?!?! he’s a lot like big Al Jefferson!

i still think that from this draft Alec Burks is priority for Utah to get as SG position is their biggest need and also star potential is very necessary, so i think they should work on getting Alec Burks from this draft, if they could trade down in the process and earn more, great!

[chevilicousParticipant]

Stop projecting the jazz to take a big, its just flat out riddiculous. The only way they take a big is if Derrick Williams falls in their lap at 3 and they hope he can translate to a SF at the next level, otherwise they won’t. I really don’t think Brandon Knight is a stretch at the 3 spot, the kid can flat out ball at the age of 18, put up big numbers as a freshman, and is the 3rd only 2 time gatorade player of the year winner alongside Lebron James and Greg Oden.  That is great company. In case you guys forgot the jazz have one of the best frontcourts in the league already, and are loaded with 5 contracts at the 4 and 5 positions for the next several years, and have Tomic coming over this year or next.

[PlatypusParticipant]

 Al Jefferson and the #12 pick for Iggy and the #16 pick

Jazz be:

Harris – Knight(3rd) – Iggy  – Milsap – Favors

Watson or 2nd rounder  – Bell – Hayward – Okur – big guy with 16

then they put harris on the block for a shooting guard and just wait

76’ers be:

Holiday – Turner – Bertans(12) – Brand – Jefferson

Williams – Meeks – Nocioni / Gary Flowers (2nd round) – Speights / Brackins – Hawes / Speights

 

[HitsterParticipant]

I doubt that Utah would look to trade Al Jefferson yet as he’s only had one year on the team and they gave up a couple of draft picks to get him. I’d guess they would look to try and transform him like Memphis did with Zach Randolph who like Al put up 20/10 on numerous losing teams.

The Iggy rumours have been doing the rounds and personally I see Cleveland as a good place for him to land. If Iggy is in play then Rod Thorn and Coach Collins may well look to drum up attention from this year’s lottery teams to see what sort of package they could offer. The vast majority of high lottery teams all have picks or assets that might interest Philly and it could shake a few contenders to show interest in Iggy as he’s seen as an ideal 2nd/3rd string on a contending team.

The thing that I guess Philly will want to do is to try and stay revelant eg make the play offs next year, after a few quiet seasons they landed Turner last year via the draft lottery and would want him to develop whilst they try and get remaining use out of Brand. I don’t see their front office wanting them to bomb next year and look to rebuild via the lottery long term but if they could move Iggy for a high pick and create cap space to allow them to reshape the roster then they might be interested.

 

 

[CodySLCParticipant]

Al Jeffersons not going anywhere. As of right now he’s our best player. If anyone’s getting traded it will be Millsap and maybe the expiring contract of Okur.

[CodySLCParticipant]

Al Jeffersons not going anywhere. As of right now he’s our best player. If anyone’s getting traded it will be Millsap and maybe the expiring contract of Okur.

Also C.J. has a team option for next season at around 4mill

[CodySLCParticipant]

Al Jeffersons not going anywhere. As of right now he’s our best player. If anyone’s getting traded it will be Millsap and maybe the expiring contract of Okur.

Also C.J. has a team option for next season at around 4mill

[mj23mj23besteverParticipant]

the cavs could send back the trade exemption they have too get a player like big al or iggy with out giving contracts back

[kobyzParticipant]

what do you think on this plan for the Jazz??

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=66uuegx

draft: #3 – Brandon Knight, #12 – best available or Jimmer Fredette

Brandon Knight/Armon Johnson/Earl Watson
Andre Iguodala/Raja Bell/Ronnie Price
Gordon Hayward/CJ Miles
Paul Millsap/Derrick Favors 
Mehmet Okur/Francisco Elson/Kyrylo Fesenko       

[torontoraptors10Participant]

I think the Jazz need to address their C position first as opposed to their PG needs….

IMO, they should draft Kanter with the 3rd pick and Jimmer with the 12th pick.

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