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  • #51283
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    Wetalkinboutpractice
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    Why doesn’t Orlando take a look at Jennings, just see if he is willing to accept a deal similar to the one Teague recently signed. Some might say he would be a bad influence on a promising young core of players, but if you can bring in a talent like Jennings at a fairly recent price with a tough but PG’ friendly coach in Vaughn that could bring out some of the best in BJ.

    With Jameer Nelson expiring Jennings could be in position to be the lead guard of the future for Orlando along with Oladipo/Harkless on the wings and Tobias/Nikola up front.

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  • #821259
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    HobbyOG
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    Do they have enough money? he’s not going to take less then 8 mill…

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    • #821539
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      esperanzafleet69
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      i bet at this point, he’ll take anything just so he doesnt have to sign miluakee’s qualifying offer (4.5 mil). im sure orlando could make it happen if they wanted to.

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    • #821443
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      esperanzafleet69
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      i bet at this point, he’ll take anything just so he doesnt have to sign miluakee’s qualifying offer (4.5 mil). im sure orlando could make it happen if they wanted to.

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  • #821356
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    HobbyOG
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    Do they have enough money? he’s not going to take less then 8 mill…

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  • #821267
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    They want to develop their young players, and I feel adding a low efficiency 20 ppg player would be a waste of money. Orlando is going to be bad, but developing a talented group of young players and hoping to grab Randall or Wiggins is a way better move than adding an expensive 20 ppg scorer who will help you win about 5 more games, but not make a lot of sense going forward.

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    • #821315
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      aivsdirk
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      Jennings is proven, a little shot happy at times but he has got his team to the playoffs twice. What is this 2014 draft bandwagon everybody hopping on? These past 3 drafts have been filled with mostly role players. How do you know this upcoming one will be different? Seems like a lot of the same to me; athletes, whose physical tools outshine their basketball iq and talent. Wouldnt say right now id would bet on wiggins or whoever in this class over jennings.

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      • #821329
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        JoeWolf1

        Jennings is a nice enough player, but in my opinion he’s way too expensive for a guy who is a career sub 40% shooter. Sure, he’s proven and would win the magic 5 or possibly more games, but I just don’t think he’s a good fit with that kind of core group. You think I invented the craze for the 2014 draft class? It’s gonna happen, man, and Orlando isn’t going to pay 8-10 million a year to win 5 more games and add a PG that will make 39% of the 17 shots he takes. It’s a bad fit.

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        • #821357
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          aivsdirk
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          i understand where you are coming from. I still believe jennings can improve both in fg % and assists but i respect your position based on what you have seen from him. I respectfully agree to disagree

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        • #821454
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          aivsdirk
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          i understand where you are coming from. I still believe jennings can improve both in fg % and assists but i respect your position based on what you have seen from him. I respectfully agree to disagree

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      • #821426
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        JoeWolf1

        Jennings is a nice enough player, but in my opinion he’s way too expensive for a guy who is a career sub 40% shooter. Sure, he’s proven and would win the magic 5 or possibly more games, but I just don’t think he’s a good fit with that kind of core group. You think I invented the craze for the 2014 draft class? It’s gonna happen, man, and Orlando isn’t going to pay 8-10 million a year to win 5 more games and add a PG that will make 39% of the 17 shots he takes. It’s a bad fit.

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    • #821412
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      aivsdirk
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      Jennings is proven, a little shot happy at times but he has got his team to the playoffs twice. What is this 2014 draft bandwagon everybody hopping on? These past 3 drafts have been filled with mostly role players. How do you know this upcoming one will be different? Seems like a lot of the same to me; athletes, whose physical tools outshine their basketball iq and talent. Wouldnt say right now id would bet on wiggins or whoever in this class over jennings.

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  • #821364
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    JoeWolf1

    They want to develop their young players, and I feel adding a low efficiency 20 ppg player would be a waste of money. Orlando is going to be bad, but developing a talented group of young players and hoping to grab Randall or Wiggins is a way better move than adding an expensive 20 ppg scorer who will help you win about 5 more games, but not make a lot of sense going forward.

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  • #821277
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    They plan on trying/playing Oladipo at the PG next season. They haven’t found a suitor for Afflalo and feel that since Oladipo performed well enough in Summer League playing the point, that he’d be better suited playing the point throughout the NBA season. He’d have a veteran in Nelson either starting ahead of him or backing him up, so signing Jennings would stunt whatever developmental plan Orlando has for him.

    Jennings will most likely take the qualifying offer from the Bucks and become an unrestricted free agent next summer, leaving him the chance to get a big pay day from the Bucks or from whatever franchise feels like they want to pay for his services.

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  • #821374
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    They plan on trying/playing Oladipo at the PG next season. They haven’t found a suitor for Afflalo and feel that since Oladipo performed well enough in Summer League playing the point, that he’d be better suited playing the point throughout the NBA season. He’d have a veteran in Nelson either starting ahead of him or backing him up, so signing Jennings would stunt whatever developmental plan Orlando has for him.

    Jennings will most likely take the qualifying offer from the Bucks and become an unrestricted free agent next summer, leaving him the chance to get a big pay day from the Bucks or from whatever franchise feels like they want to pay for his services.

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  • #821273
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    I think they will of the Bucks take Nelson in return for Jennings. Maybe Nelson and a 2015 protected first round pick for Jennings?

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  • #821366
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    I think they will of the Bucks take Nelson in return for Jennings. Maybe Nelson and a 2015 protected first round pick for Jennings?

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  • #821271
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    I think they will of the Bucks take Nelson in return for Jennings. Maybe Nelson and a 2015 protected first round pick for Jennings?

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  • #821368
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    I think they will of the Bucks take Nelson in return for Jennings. Maybe Nelson and a 2015 protected first round pick for Jennings?

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  • #821279
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    Brennan23
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    JoeWolf: I know your a legend and I am sure I will be negged to hell, but you do know it’s spelled Randle right ?

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    • #821281
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      JoeWolf1

      I’m prone to spelling errors if I’ve been awake for less than an hour, haha

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    • #821378
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      JoeWolf1

      I’m prone to spelling errors if I’ve been awake for less than an hour, haha

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  • #821376
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    Brennan23
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    JoeWolf: I know your a legend and I am sure I will be negged to hell, but you do know it’s spelled Randle right ?

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  • #821295
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    Brennan23
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    Understandable.

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  • #821392
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    Brennan23
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    Understandable.

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  • #821297
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    Brennan23
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    Understandable.

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  • #821394
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    Brennan23
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    Understandable.

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  • #821313
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    aivsdirk
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    i agree with this because i thought about this a couple times. Bj is 23 i think. Thats a perfect age to back up jameer and be that guy for them moving forward after jameer leaves. He would be a much better peice moving forward than stunting oladipo by forcing him to play pg, as we saw in summer league he can get past pgs, because of athleticism and size but setting up team mates he is a less than average experiment. He is a energy 2 that is most effective in that position, and this is precisely why i feel if they had a young pg in jennings who could maybe get counsel from vaughn and nelson who both know what it means to build a winning culture.

    He will be playing with a big in vucevic, and we know bj hasnt played with a center of the caliber of this guy, and maybe a big who can score for himself will have a positive effect on bj, knowing he has a low post presence and not just a put back guy like he did with sanders. We know jennings likes to run, not saying this past year he didnt have guys to run with him, but there were a couple less guys on the bucks who could help on the fastbreak in comparison to the magic with oladipo, harkless, harris, osby, vucevic, and o’quinn all more athletic and more powerful finishers to feel the lanes for jennings to pass to than what the bucks had.

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  • #821410
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    aivsdirk
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    i agree with this because i thought about this a couple times. Bj is 23 i think. Thats a perfect age to back up jameer and be that guy for them moving forward after jameer leaves. He would be a much better peice moving forward than stunting oladipo by forcing him to play pg, as we saw in summer league he can get past pgs, because of athleticism and size but setting up team mates he is a less than average experiment. He is a energy 2 that is most effective in that position, and this is precisely why i feel if they had a young pg in jennings who could maybe get counsel from vaughn and nelson who both know what it means to build a winning culture.

    He will be playing with a big in vucevic, and we know bj hasnt played with a center of the caliber of this guy, and maybe a big who can score for himself will have a positive effect on bj, knowing he has a low post presence and not just a put back guy like he did with sanders. We know jennings likes to run, not saying this past year he didnt have guys to run with him, but there were a couple less guys on the bucks who could help on the fastbreak in comparison to the magic with oladipo, harkless, harris, osby, vucevic, and o’quinn all more athletic and more powerful finishers to feel the lanes for jennings to pass to than what the bucks had.

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  • #821323
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    BrentSuriaga01
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    A developing team take a cancer who will suck a lot of cap space and can only lead them in mediocrity?

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    BrentSuriaga01
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    A developing team take a cancer who will suck a lot of cap space and can only lead them in mediocrity?

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  • #821327
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    Siggy
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    Because they don’t want him, nor should they.
    If you heard or read the reasons why they took a kid like Oladipo, you would understand why they would avoid someone like Jennings. They want tough, competitive, hard-working, selfless players who have good character and smarts.
    Jennings doesn’t fit the culture they’re trying to build. Yeah he’s young and he’s show flashes but that’s it. There are plenty more reasons not to want a player like him.

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    • #821347
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      jennings is tough and competitive from what i see, now those other qualities he can speak for himself on those, but you dont think oladipo who has the mindset he has with the atmosphere they are creating in orlando could has a positive effect on jennings? I mean the core young guys would be around the same age growing together each year. We prolly still going to disagree, but jennings was always a alpha male in highschool, then he made it to the league and got handed a team who wouldnt have done anything if he didnt take alot of shots. Is that his fault? With his iq could he average more assists? Yes he could and i do wish he would, but look what was handed to him. Im just saying i think maybe it could work in orlando, especially playing behind jameer and getting a new outlook on things. Either way if he stays in milwaukee he will still be competing for a playoff spot because he finds ways to help his team win games regardless.

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      • #821369
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        His shot selection is his fault. A player can always choose to LOOK to get better shots either for himself or others. A good shot even by a lesser NBA player is still a good shot. Blaming his FG% and poor shot selection on his teammates sounds a like a bunch of excuses.

        You mention his IQ. His lack of bball IQ is why he’s as ineffective as he is. NBA players can still be more productive with lower bball IQs, but that requires some level of physical dominance, which Jennings doesn’t have. I think another reason why he settles for a lot of tough shots is because he is not a good finisher. He’s got all the quickness and shiftiness to get into the paint, but he is not a good finisher, in large part because of his thin frame that cannot absorb contact.

        The Magic aren’t looking to shape and mold character. They want the the player to have high character coming into the organization. They don’t need nor should they want Jennings.

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      • #821466
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        His shot selection is his fault. A player can always choose to LOOK to get better shots either for himself or others. A good shot even by a lesser NBA player is still a good shot. Blaming his FG% and poor shot selection on his teammates sounds a like a bunch of excuses.

        You mention his IQ. His lack of bball IQ is why he’s as ineffective as he is. NBA players can still be more productive with lower bball IQs, but that requires some level of physical dominance, which Jennings doesn’t have. I think another reason why he settles for a lot of tough shots is because he is not a good finisher. He’s got all the quickness and shiftiness to get into the paint, but he is not a good finisher, in large part because of his thin frame that cannot absorb contact.

        The Magic aren’t looking to shape and mold character. They want the the player to have high character coming into the organization. They don’t need nor should they want Jennings.

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    • #821444
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      jennings is tough and competitive from what i see, now those other qualities he can speak for himself on those, but you dont think oladipo who has the mindset he has with the atmosphere they are creating in orlando could has a positive effect on jennings? I mean the core young guys would be around the same age growing together each year. We prolly still going to disagree, but jennings was always a alpha male in highschool, then he made it to the league and got handed a team who wouldnt have done anything if he didnt take alot of shots. Is that his fault? With his iq could he average more assists? Yes he could and i do wish he would, but look what was handed to him. Im just saying i think maybe it could work in orlando, especially playing behind jameer and getting a new outlook on things. Either way if he stays in milwaukee he will still be competing for a playoff spot because he finds ways to help his team win games regardless.

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    • #821373
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      Wetalkinboutpractice
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      I see exactly where you’re comin’ from but I just believed it looks like an interesting opportunity to increase the talent level off the roster. Especially considering they will most likely be too good next season to net a top five pick barring any major injuries.

      We’ve all seen what a change in enviroment can do for a player especially if he’s put in a postion where he’s forced to reform.
      Maybe, just maybe (although unlikely) what’s gone down this summer could humble Jennings. And this could be chance for his game to catch up to his talent.

      Nonetheless people don’t change overnight, nor should we expect them to. And that’s why it’s difficult to take an 8million dollar flyer on a talent like Jennings. Considering what they’re trying to build as I mentioned earlier.

      I’m not saying the Magic should sign Jennings, I just thought it was an interesting topic to discuss. AKA boredom.

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    • #821469
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      Wetalkinboutpractice
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      I see exactly where you’re comin’ from but I just believed it looks like an interesting opportunity to increase the talent level off the roster. Especially considering they will most likely be too good next season to net a top five pick barring any major injuries.

      We’ve all seen what a change in enviroment can do for a player especially if he’s put in a postion where he’s forced to reform.
      Maybe, just maybe (although unlikely) what’s gone down this summer could humble Jennings. And this could be chance for his game to catch up to his talent.

      Nonetheless people don’t change overnight, nor should we expect them to. And that’s why it’s difficult to take an 8million dollar flyer on a talent like Jennings. Considering what they’re trying to build as I mentioned earlier.

      I’m not saying the Magic should sign Jennings, I just thought it was an interesting topic to discuss. AKA boredom.

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  • #821424
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    Because they don’t want him, nor should they.
    If you heard or read the reasons why they took a kid like Oladipo, you would understand why they would avoid someone like Jennings. They want tough, competitive, hard-working, selfless players who have good character and smarts.
    Jennings doesn’t fit the culture they’re trying to build. Yeah he’s young and he’s show flashes but that’s it. There are plenty more reasons not to want a player like him.

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