[Dc773Participant]

Can someone effectively tackle this question for me? Be honest when answering it: does Jimmer Fredette remind you all of a rich-man’s Jannero Pargo? (Be honest.) Fredette barely gets off the ground, is a gunner, doesn’t play defense well, doesn’t have elite speed or quickness, has a extremely poor shot-selection and gets more pub than deserving of. And for all his flaws, he still gets a respectful alignment of love as oppose to, say, Kemba Walker, who hasn’t had a podcast dedicated to him yet, hasn’t had a child named after him (no need for yet), and won’t get the Jay Bilas(s) or Chad Ford(s) of the worlds going goo-goo-ga-ga over him on Draft night. Am I being a hater? Or does anybody see what I see — and that’s an over-hyped prospect with a basketball ceiling in certain degree with Jannero Pargo? ‘Em not buying what his braintrusts are sellin. Just not.

[Hi its BenParticipant]

LOL

 

Thats all I have to say.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

The shots he takes are pretty ridiculous. But the guy can shoot and very very very well. If I could shoot like Jimmer can than I too would shoot from anywhere no matter who you put on me. Just like Jimmer can and will. 

Now because of his lack of speed and athleticism he will most likely not start in the NBA. But because of his craftiness, great shooting ability, and okay passing game, I see him being a crafty Steve Kerr. Great 6th man energy guy, but start him against NBA starting point guards and you will be running into trouble.

[OhCanada-Participant]

You guys are gonna so gonna eat your words when he is a good NBA player.

[White ChocolateParticipant]

If you watched the BYU-Gonzaga game after he made a three they would show a slow motion instant replay and Fredette was definitely getting really high off of the ground unlike what you said. He does try to force some shots at some times, but overall he does hit deep NBA threes and he is a beast.

[Dc773Participant]

Okay "Cousin", lets see how his ups counter that of Tyrus Thomas’s next season — that’s if he gets go when he arrives in the league within the next few months.

[White ChocolateParticipant]

Tyrus Thomas is going to be guarding Jimmer Fredette whenever they play against eachother in the NBA intersting…

 

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 I agree with you he is a beast but thats only because of his great shooting ability, craftiness and somewhat good passing ability. 

Shooting can only get you so far no matter how good of a shooter you are. If you aren’t athletic, especially in the NBA nowadays, you will not be a starter in the NBA. Unless you want to have a bad starting point guard.

Put Jimmer up against Russell Westbrook, Derrick Rose, Deron Williams, Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Tony Parker, Rajon Rondo John Wall, and he will be stopped. That’s over a third of the NBA’s best point guards now and there will be more like them. One of them very soon is Kyrie Irving (Chris Paul) He can be stopped by over a third of the NBA point guards. Because of that he will be a 6th man energy type player at best.

[White ChocolateParticipant]

Is Steve Nash athletic? Jason Kidd? John Stockton? You do not need to be athletic to be a great point guard in the NBA.

[Michael.S.Participant]

^  But, Just for he record-Kidd was athletic…just saying. Fredette will be fine. Felton, Augustin, Billups, Nash, Chalmers, Hinrich, and even Curry, Jennings, and Williams are good NBA players even though they aren’t overly athletic guys…Again, he will be fine.

[White ChocolateParticipant]

I guess I am just used to him playing in his old age rather than his young age haha. I agree with you though, and by the way Jammin-Lemon do you still do the wallpapers? If you do i have a request and itf you don’t or don’t feel like doing one that it totally cool with me.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Kidd was/is also a 6’4 200lbs PG, but that’s beyond the point.

What Jimmer lacks (athleticism/speed) he more than makes up for it with his ball handling and his ability to change speeds to get defenders off balance. He’s goiNg to be a good NBA guard, I’m not counting on him to be an All-Star but someone who plays a Ben Gordon type role.

[JBrace19Participant]

Jimmer is not an athletic specimen. But he is still pretty athletic, and definately athletic enough to be a good player in the NBA. And we all know he has the range, but he is an underrated ball handler, passer, and defender! He doesn’t get the 7-10 assist per game becuase he doesn’t have the surrounding cast most elite players do. I know he isn’t the best defender out there but he can hang with most guys. I think he will be good enough to start after a few years, especially if he has a veteran like a Nash, Kidd, or Billups to learn from…he is an intelligent player.

[Dale WorthingtonParticipant]

Is Deron Williams even athletic?

[akhan786Participant]

Are you kidding me? Did you see how much air time he gets in his shots. He may not have the best vertical but he does have the uncanny ability of hang time.

Also, though I’m a big Kemba Walker fan, the reason why Jimmer gets more hoopla is because:

1) He’s from a mid-major school but has major game

2) He is practically carrying his team

3) He is easily marketable and speaks eloquently

4) And last but not least he has a hot girlfriend

[JoeWolf1]

 Jimmer’s strength plays a big part in his game too.  He is able to make all the off balance shots, in part, because of his upper body strength.  He also uses that and his wide shoulders to create space against defenders when he’s going to the basket on the drive.  He isn’t that fast, quick, nor does he have a eye popping vertical but his strength will most definately trasnlate to the next level.

[sheltwon3Participant]

I was high on Jimmer at one point but then I realize exactly what role will he play in the NBA. I don’t care what people say NBA wise he is not Nash or Curry. There have been tons of college guys that could shoot from anywhere that are bench players. I remember how Tony Delk was in college and in the pros. He was a bench player that had a 50 point game. He did not stay in the league long and he was hardly ever a starter but sometimes got starter minutes.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 Yeah he’ll have a good NBA career, but like mess.eee said, he will be a 6th man energy type player. I definitely agree, Jimmer Freddette is a smaller Ben Gordon. I still see him struggling against the guys I mentioned earlier. (maybe not Steve Nash or Jason Kidd but definitely the rest of those that I mentioned, and thats still almost a third of league’s starting PG’s today!) And with Irving on the way and others just as good as he is, if not more, then I really don’t see him starting at the next level

Deron Williams is athletic he just hasn’t shown it that much this year because of his injured wrist. But once he gets completely healthy again he will show his athleticism. Do you not remember what he did last season?

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 If you are a PG and you want to start you need to be athletic or else you have no shot, nowadays. We live in a different age and era. There are no more John Stockton’s, Steve Nash’s and maybe even no more Jason Kidd’s Back in Stockton’s day, yeah you could get by without athleticism but since we can’t go back in time and the NBA is only getting more athletic, especially at the PG, you won’t be able to start in the NBA if you are an unathletic point guard. No matter how good of a shooting ability you have.

Like I said before, there will always be more and more athletic point guards. In about 2 or 3 years I think we will see all of the 30 NBA teams with an athletic PG starting. And Jimmer Freddette won’t be one of them. He is a 6th man energy type guy. A smaller but rich man’s Ben Gordon is what I see in him.

[kngojcParticipant]

 But seriously though.. He’s like J.J. Reddick and Steph Curry in college.. Except Reddick got lucky enough to go to the Magic where he’s in a shooting playstyle. If he plays for Phoenix or Knicks he might have a shot at a good career but other than that, I don’t see him being more than a good sixth man like J.R. Smith. Steph Curry got bashed for not being strong or athletic enough and he’s definitely proving people wrong. I don’t see Jimmer making too much noise in the NBA though.

[the I in winParticipant]

I think the things he does well outweight the things he can’t do.  Not saying elite but solid, especially if his wish of playing in NY came true.

[Michael.S.Participant]

sure cousinsfan what would you like?

[iguapops420Participant]

Just woke up. Drank a big mason jar of apple pie Shine last night and sum beeres so I’m feeling too rough for in depth, long thought out post and just say: Freddette is crafty,strong,shifty,decently quick, uses full vert(what little he has) on every jump shot, and has great footwork. With all of these natural tools circled around his SPECTACULAR jump shot(much more shot creating ability than a Steve Kerr type) and can even finish inside similar to Steve Nash. Build of Derrick Fisher, scoring of Steve Nash, and the passing of Kirk Hinrich(Already). While he may not have the best natural tools for defense, that hasn’t stopped a Fisher,Paxson,or Kenny Smith from winning titles simply because they still give the effort and have above average fundamentals/footwork. IMO, Fredette is best suited off the benh as a super sub who changes the pace of a game , but in SOME situations such s LAL,Minny,NY,PHX, and GS Fredette is a more than capable starting guard.

[White ChocolateParticipant]

I got what I want and the pictures, but it won’t let me post them so could I e-mail them to you? 

[The lake show2]

lol. You dont have to be a very good athlete to start or play in the NBA. You have to have skills which he has. People kill me with the you have to be such a athlete to play this or that position or have to be this or that height. You dont have to be fast you just have to be able to be shifty. You dont have to be able to jump real high you just need to know when to jump. You dont have to be real quick you just need to know when to use you’re quickness. Dwill is athletic but he doesn’t beat you with athleticism. Same with CP3. neither blow past you all game or jump over you all game they pick and choose there spots and beat you with skill. And its alot easier to succeed in the NBA at any position when you can shoot because that causes you’re defender not to commit to playing off you.

 

And when he has to play close to you you have the advantage of using you’re body to get you’re shot off or first step

[JoeWolf1]

 @iguapops, I hear what you are saying but your examples are off.

Kenny Smith competed in a slam dunk competition and was very athletic when he was younger and Kirk Hinrich is by far a better passer than Jimmer and was coming out of college.  He averaged 6.8 assist as a rookie and when he was in a starting role before D-Rose came to Chicago never averaged below 6 assists per game.

[Chicago1980Participant]

I totally agree with you DC773 people love this kid yes he is a good college player but I just dont get all the hype over him he has been at BYU for 4 years and people are just noticing him this year.  Also he went to the pre draft camps last year and no one would promise him a spot in the first round that has to tell you something he didnt get that much better over a year. But we shall see.

[Ghost01Participant]

I think theres alot of overreaction on both sides. Fredette has been an outstanding college player, and no one can doubt that. But to make it seem impossible that he has a Pargo-JJ Redick type NBA career is just foolish. He is a low lottery pick in a weak draft, theres no guarantee hes going to be a star. I tihnk he’ll be a decent NBA player, probably more of a sixth man than a starter. But no one knows for sure if hes going to be that great or that bad.

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