[ultrablue123Participant]

So as we all know there have been numerous comparisons between John Wall and Derrick Rose. So answer this.
1. Who will be better next season?
2. Who’s team will be more improved next season?
3. Who will be better and make a more signifigant impact in the next 5 years?

[Tyreke JohnsonParticipant]

1. Who will be better next season? Derrick Rose, he has already established himself as a top 5 PG in the NBA, John Wall has yet to play any NBA games yet, plus Rose has been to the playoffs already and his team currently is looking to be top 4 in the East with Rose heading the show.
2. Who’s team will be more improved next season? The Bulls without a doubt, they have signed some solid players like Korver, Watson and Brewer and with the addition of Boozer they are much improved, the Wizards are in the rebuilding process at the moment and they are in the bottom part of the East looking at John Wall to restart the Franchise with.
3. Who will be better and make a more signifigant impact in the next 5 years? I like Wall but Rose is just too good to not say, he has a very good feel for the game, terrific scorer,has already improved his mid range jump shot, blinding speed, great finisher around the rim, finishes well in traffic, able to get to the rim easily, and also has better control of the ball and can change speeds easily without causing turnovers. Wall has yet to prove how effective he can be in an NBA setting though I believe Wall will be good it seems right now Rose is better and will continue to be.

[ChewyParticipant]

Rose is a pass first point guard who scored because the Bulls didnt have anyone else. Watch this year with more offensive weapons Rose will be more of a facilitator.

Wall is score first point guard who has good passing ability but is more point minded than assist minded.

Rose is a stone wall of emotions. He is a pg version of Tim Duncan.

Wall created his own stupid flex dance and did it every chance he got……. nuff said

Rose has improved his jumpshot by leaps and bounds since entering the league.

Wall will have to prove that he will put in the effort to get a consistant jumpshot like Rose did. It is not a garuntee that he will.

In college he made CDR look like a first team all american. Led a less talented Calipari team (much) farther than Wall did. (I mean who would you rather have: Cousins or Joey Dorsey, Patrick Patterson and Daniel Orton or Robert Dozier, Eric Bledsoe or Willie Kemp)

[WizardofOzParticipant]

Showing no emotion isn’t good. If you’re a PG, you’re supposed to be vocal and talk to your teammates. Derrick Rose needs to be more vocal and Wall has the upper hand at that.

Wall created a dance. So. He was just having fun. He was a kid in college and was only 19 years old. Give him a break. And do you ever see him doing that dance on the court? When he’s playing in a real game, he’s serious.

[idunnonymoreParticipant]

^^ thank you didn’t said i was gonna say

[idunnonymoreParticipant]

i mean you did say wat i was gonna say

[kobyzParticipant]

somthing i notice is that Wall has problam with controling the ball, he need to improve ball handling, it cause him a lot of turnovers and losing the handle.
i think the main advantage of Wall over Rose is passing, Wall is much better passer, he has great game vision.

[ghettosermonParticipant]

Lol so Rose is a good leader because he doesn’t say anything and Wall is a bad leader because he created a dance? Haha ok, in actuality a floor general needs to be vocal, something Rose is not. Rose still hasn’t learned the intricacies of being a PG which includes setting your players in position. As far as Wall he has shown an ability to lead. Also I don’t think Rose has improved as a shooter nearly as much as you think he does. He still shoots a pedestrian FG % even though he takes a lot of interior shots, and his 3 point percentage is still atrocious. He improved form 22% from the 3 point line his rookie season, to 26% from the 3 point line last year. Nothing to write home about.

[idunnonymoreParticipant]

4 percent is really good in one year in threes. rose is a proven leader sets a great example. wtf are u talking about ghettosermon

[DanEboyParticipant]

ghettosermon….you are completely wrong on all accounts.

His shot out to 20ft is drastically better then his rookie season.

Rose is vocal to his teammates….just not so much the media. Just because he isn’t smiling doesn’t mean he isn’t vocal.

Like Noah said, “Rose is as humble as it gets off the court….on the court, he is as confident as they come.”

Watch a Bulls game.

[DanEboyParticipant]

Tim Duncan has 4 rings……no emotion works for him.

You guys are reaching on this whole topic.

[ChewyParticipant]

What I mean is that I want a pg who will remain confident and unshaken no matter what position he, and his team, are placed into. Ala derricks unwavering confidence and control. Unlike Wall who decided to jack up jumpshot after jumpshot when they obviously had the advantage in the post during march madness. What was his fg% in the game Kentucky got eliminated?

[stanford hoops]

I actually thnk wall looks to pass just as much as he looks to score

[ghettosermonParticipant]

[quote]4 percent is really good in one year in threes. rose is a proven leader sets a great example. wtf are u talking about ghettosermon[/quote]

4 percent from 22% is like saying Ben Wallace improved his FT shooting from 48% to 55%. Anyways I’m not saying Rose isn’t a leader, I’m saying he doesn’t yet have the traits that all elite PG’s have ala Kidd, Isiah Thomas, Payton. There is a difference between leading and being a floor general. Rose is a leader. He sets by example. Shows good work ethic and shows a good example for his teammates. He however doesn’t command his players on the court the way elite PG’s do. I’m not saying he can’t develop this, but he doesn’t have it yet. You are trying to make it sound like I think he sucks. I acknowledge him as a top 10 PG, but I don’t believe he’s an elite PG yet the way you see it.

[weballin.netParticipant]

Who will be better? Rose will be in his third season and has learnt so much, of course he will be better. Despite his youth, he’s already a vet and a all star caliber type of player.
Which team will improve the most? Hard to say if we only focus on how much more wins the teams get. The Bulls have improved their roster a lot with Boozer and Korver. Washington didn’t have any PG last season and now they have one of the most promising ones, and one who make the team so much better.
Who will have more impact five years from now? Fuck it, I go with Wall, he’s a motor who bring every teammate in his trail, and also get the crowd hectic. He’s as athletic as Rose but maybe more violent in the way he uses his speed and athleticism.

[bullsfan121212]

rose is in discussion for top 2 pg in the league not if he’s better than the overhyped rookie. wall will be a top 5 pg at some point but i dont think its gonna be his rookie year. no help around him.

maybe he can shoot 40% and score 20 a game and people will think he is good like brandon jennings

[PlatypusParticipant]

Rose is not in discussion for top 2 pg, 3 at highest but not 2

1 Chris Paul
2 Derron Williams

or as some people see it

1 Derron Williams
2 Chris Paul

[bishopm.dotParticipant]

Derrik Rose is a better point guard for next season. He is on a great team and has shown great maturity in his game. Having better an inside presence in Carlos Boozer and an outside shooter in Kyle Korver will make him a more explosive and dynamic player and playmaker. But I think down the road John Wall will be a top five point guard as well. Wall has a better shooting stroke then Rose had coming out of school. Although Rose is a great athlete, I argue that Wall combination of speed and athleticism is hard to come by.

It’s hard to compare these two player and these two teams. Rose is an established point guard with a team that will be contending while Wall has only played summer league ball and his team is clearly in rebuilding mode.

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