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  • #45809
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    KHAM83
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    Recently there was a post linking to articles about Wall not being a franchise player. Since his return, he has been putting IP numbers, and in limited minutes. In 23 mpg for 4 games, he’s avg 14 and 8, still on 42 fg%. Last night he put up 14/12/4 boards in 25 minutes against Denver. Numbers looks good, but they can be misleading. Has anyone actually watched his games and can provide your analysis on him? Is he showing that he can still be that franchise guy Washington drafted him to be?

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  • #740161
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    RapCity
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    Numbers aren’t misleading at all. And during his 4 games back the Wizards are 3-1 as well. He looks like he finally under control, plays the pick and roll a lot better and is playing with confidence. His jump shot is still shaky but I expect that to improve with time as well. Wall has really impressed me since his return and I really like how there young backcourt looks, him and Beal have a bright future.

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  • #740167
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    RUDEBOY_
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    People 4get that Gary Payton,John Stockton & Steve Nash struggled in their early years in the nba…I wouldnt call a guy with averages of 16pts & 8 asts in his rookie year a bust.. ..But people expected much more from Wall…How lucky is Wall to have a fututre Hall of Famer in Gary Payton and a former All Star in Sam Cassell to get advice from?

    Gary Payton says he’s been talking to John Wall about succeeding in NBA http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/17/gary-payton-says-hes-been-talking-to-john-wall-about-succeeding-in-nba/ via @basketballtalk

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  • #740172
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    esperanzafleet69
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    i think what people REALLY forget is that the wiz have basically an entire new team from last year. john wall was their ONLY real scoring option. this is really his first time with any sort of offensive interior presence. he is definately a franchise guy, but he plays in one of the toughest divisions in basketball on one of the worst teams.

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  • #740174
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Wall still needs time to get his legs underneath him. He’s going to have good games and bad games. The sample size is too small to tell whether he’s improved or not.

    I didn’t like last game that he had 6 turnovers in only 26 minutes. The game before that, he had 10 assists and only 1 turnover in 26 minutes though.

    Hopefully, this guy can put it all together. He’s exciting to watch.

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  • #740176
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    surve
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    he is franchise level talent….if he can stay healthy, I am confident he will continue to improve…particularly as he gets better players around him.

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  • #740178
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    Stew
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    Even tho i didnt expect him to take this long to get to that level i know he can be I still believe in him something tells me hes gonna put it all together

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  • #740182
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Rajon Rondo, John Wall, Russell Westbrook

    Who are we most likely to see a quadruple-double from in their career?

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    • #740189
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      BenchWarmer
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      Id say Russell or Rondo. But if I had to pick any player in the league right now to get a triple double I think id go with Paul George

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      • #740250
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        boomdizzal
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        if i had to pick a player who can get a triple double id pick lebron james hands down

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    • #740195
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      SubZero
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      I might be thinking of someone else, but didn’t John Wall have 7 steals or so the same game he put up a triple-double a year or two ago?

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      • #740215
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        BenchWarmer
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        I remember seeing the boxscore for that. Was it CP3?

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  • #740187
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    RUDEBOY_
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    TOL23,all 3 players are capable of it..But I’ll say if it happens, it might be Wall or Rondo…

    Alot of guys will do it,if u Are counting turnovers also? lol

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  • #740198
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    Hitster
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    Wall still has the upside to become a franchise player, he is easing himself back into rotation and rightly isn’t being rushed, he’ll need time to get his full playing speed back and will learn how to develop his game and control the tempo much more. John Wall will learn he does not have to win games on his own and with advice from Sam Cassell and Gary Payton he’s got two excellent players and proven winners to help him develop his game. A key development for a PG as well as improving their own game, is making their team mates look better and Wall seems to be learning this.

    Cassell will provide in game advice and will no doubt help draw up plays with Coach Wittman for Wall whilst Payton can provide an outside and honest perspective to Wall about things he may notice in his game and how he dealt with certain situations.

    I’m looking forward to seeing Beal and Wall in tandem for a prolonged period as the season progresses.

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  • #740204
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    RUDEBOY_
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    I Would love to see Cassell get the head coaching job after the season..Wittman doesnt know WTF he is doing

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  • #740208
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    Mr. 19134
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    Agree the Wiz should make Cassell the coach atleast hed give them some direction. RW is running that franchise into the dirt.

    Im excited that the Glove is working wit Wall. GP will tell Wall to his face what he needs to fix and show him how. Hell keep Wall humble and motivated.

    I didnt like the Beal pick cuz I thought the Wiz needed a guy like Waiters or Lilllard who could take ball handling duties away from Wall, or Barnes if they wanted an athletic floor spacer to run wit Wall n hit kick outs. But Beal is proven to be everything they hoped for.

    I just felt like Wall is more dangerous when paired with length like wit Young, McGee and Blatche. They werent smart players but they all have crazy length and it alloowed Wall to just lob it at the rim.

    The people saying Wall isnt a franchise player are probably the same people who said Blake isnt one. Wall needs a complimemt. Wall might not be the next CP3 or Rose, but hes still aa future superstar.

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  • #740259
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    Sam Cassell would make an excellent Head Coach in my opinion, he has won titles, been an All Star so knows his way around the NBA. Payton would make an excellent assistant at this stage of his career I think, the guy could almost be a defensive co-ordinator similar to what Coach Thibs was in Boston before he got his own gig.

    Of course Payton may have a lot of outside commitments so maybe he prefers the unofficial mentor type role at the moment.

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