I know the arguement of saying it takes a year to get used to each other, look at the Heat. People need to remember the Heat still got to the finals that year its the Miami Heat, not being swept in the first round and being the Lakers..... that being said, why not go all out now, and here's a dream scenerio for them and how it helps other teams.
Trade Gasol to the TWolves for Kevin Love, ( Love needs out of minny and they act like they don't want him anyway, also get a perfect player for Rubio in Gasol, also saves Lakers some money)
Sign and trade Howard to the Bulls for Noah and Deng and possibly Teague ( Bulls get two cornerstone and then amnesty Boozer and trade Kirks expiring contract for a furtue first, save enough money to go after OJ Mayo and next year have a line up of Rose, Mayo, Butler, Gibson, Dwight...... not bad at all.)
Trade Steve Nash for Kyle Lowry ( Toronto wants Nash which would make Lowry expendable.)
Amnesty World Peace.
Next years lineup of Lowry, Kobe, Deng, Love, Noah.... younger and even will work for Lakers cap and can keep kobe, also once his contract expires still leaves room for movements, especially with dengs contract being an expiring one after that year.
You must be a Lakers fan...no way Minnesota does that trade, no way Toronto does that trade after seeing Nash play this year and how old and broken down he looked
Sounds like your dream scenario.....I can do better, with something a teeny bit more realistic.
1. Kobe agrees to be amnestied and to resign following the 13-14 season, which he sits due to his injuries.
2. Trade Gasol to Cavs for Gee and #18 pick (formerly Lakers pick). Cavs will do this since Gasol can start at the 5 and tutor Zeller. Cavs will draft SF with first pick so Gee is expendable.
3. Trade Nash to Pacers for Orlando Johnson and #23 pick. Pacers gets the veteran pg the need.
4. Sign CP3 to a near max deal. With the cap space Kobe/Howards/Gasol/Nash contracts frees up.
5. With just under 10 mill in space, sign a decent PF (Milsap, Hickson, Speights, Landry, West???)
6. Draft Tony Mitchell and Withey with the picks from Clev and Indy.
7. Resign Howard.
8. After next season, resign Kobe.
Dream scenario....highly doubtful, but a teeny bit more realistic.
Definitley more realistic then what has. But cp3 to Lakers? I dont see him leaving what he has with the Cippers for the trainwreck the Lakers are dealing with. He also made comments about the clippers not having enough money to retain Eric Bledsoe.. the only way they don't have enough is if CP resigns.
I agree about CP3...just saying, Dream scenario, that is a "little" realistic. Just saying- Pick the Lakers in NBA2K13 and you can do this without the "Trade Override option" enabled.
Im actually a die hard Celts fan but I respect the game enough to know the Lakers are mostly always gonna be decent. I think Love is gone this season anyway, and instead of doing what they normally do just get young prospects they need an experienced championship guy there with a good coach and two players who know each other well, gasol is still an All Star player when coached right. Plus I think he fits that scheme much more. The Nash for Lowry is tough, I was just giving Toronto their country Hero, and when healthy even this season he wasn't far worse than lowry. The bulls and Lakers swap actually just makes sense to me.
Should the Lakers bomb next season?
I like the Nash trade, but a legit seven footer with All star potential is worth more than gee and a mid first in this draft.... You need to realize Kobe will be back mid next year, he doesn't rely on his athleticism anymore, he's just a smart player, and how can you bet on Kobe sitting if they are in the. Playoff race and he knows he doesn't have much more time.
If a player is amnistied, all other NBA teams are able to make a bid on him and the highest bidding team gets the player, therefore would eliminate Kobe making an "agreement" to come back to LA
They talked about that on ESPN one day. It actually could happen but I think it's very far fetched- The Lakers Amnesty Kobe, he chooses to retire. That eliminates the teams from bidding on him. After the seasonn ends and he's taken the entire season to rehab and reach full strength. He comes out of retirement for the 2014-15 season and sign with the Lakers for a reasonable price. I doubt if this happens because Kobe wants to prove his doubters wrong and return to play this season.
However, if there was ANY CHANCE that Kobe could miss atleast half of this upcoming season, I think this would be the best thing to do.
As Mitch Kupchak, I'd put it this way, "Kobe we love you and we need you to play, but Only when you're healthy Kobe. You have proven enough already. If you cant be 100% this season, sit the season out and we'll sign you in 2014. Use our facilities, mentor the team, spend time with your family and just get back healthy so we could get this championship next season. I guarantee we'll use the money and make sure the roster is loaded and ready for you to get another ring when you step back on the floor. We're not cutting you, we're just outsmarting the system. Think about it and get back to us."
Does that sound ridiculous to you guys?
Kobe is injured so the injury "could take a little longer to heel" or Kobe just says he's retiring if he was amnestied and then decide to come back a year or so later.
The Lakers should just tank next season so they can land Andrew Wiggins. Getting some more draft picks wouldn't hurt either. Finally, Mike NoD'Antoni needs to go.
C'mon now guys. He did say it is a dream scenario. I'm sure the Lakers would love for this to happen so I don't see why you're all bashing him.
But on a more serious note, why on Earth would the Raptors trade Lowry for Nash straight up? I also don't see why the T'Wolves would do the Gasol trade. The Howard to Bulls trade is a longshot, but if the Bulls really wanted to build with a second superstar, they could pull that trade off, but that is also not likely to happen. If Rose came back full strength and Dwight continued his dominance at the center position, it could maybe work out for the Bulls in the long run.
The only plausible scenario you stated was amnestying Metta World Peace, and that might not even happen.
But we can all dream I guess.
Nobody likes a damn thing anyone else is saying. Mark of a great thread.
If Kobe doesn't come back next year, they should tank for Wiggins or Parker next season; plain and simple.
today I was off work I woke up at 10 am I ate frosted flakes, smoked a kush blunt, had sex with my girlfriend and went on facebook. just like ya'll don't give a damn about my personal life , I don't give a damn about another person, &$#%#&@! ridiculous.
get a time machine and collect laker greats through the ages, fire d'antoni and get kareem to convince john wooden to be the coach.
coach: john wooden
or something like that.
well at least this scenerio is more likely than getting kevin love.
What a ridiculous thread. Here's a more realistic scenario which is nice and simple. Dwight packs his bags and signs the max in Houston which is a perfect fit for him and the Lakers spend next year in lottery land.
IF Dwight leaves, Kobe doesn't play the lakers will suck and get a top five pick, I think the lottery is rigged so The NBA would give them the first pick and they Take Wiggins in the 2014 draft..My dream scenario.
Why not do a sign and trade with Houston or Brooklyn (if they are still interested) and actually get something back for him. Maybe Asik, Thomas Robinson and a First from Houston or Brook Lopez and Marshon Brooks from Brooklyn. And KEEP Gasol this team plays better when he is on the court. Also I would figure out some way to make a run at Brandon Jennings because with Kobe out most of next season you need someone to put the ball in the hoop. Then get rid of Nash that was the worst pick up for them last off season.
I wouldn't necessarily say that Toronto would be opposed to getting Nash. Lowry had an up and down season and never really built any sort of cohesiveness with the rest of the team. Nash wasn't in a good situation playing next to Kobe but would be the perfect guy to set things up for Gay, Derozan and Terrence Ross in TO. Not to mention the PR goldmine it would create.
Is a trade like this out of the question?
Toronto would get a true big man at PF that could mentor Valunciunas and would get the greatest Canadian ever to run the show at point. In addition they would get rid of cumbersome contracts like Fields and Bargs. Bargs has been excess baggage for a while now, and the departure of Fields would give more PT for Ross.
The Lakers would lose Gasol and Nash but Gasol wasn't a good fit next to Howard and Nash was a liability defensively and gave the Lakers a ridiculously old backcourt. Bargs would be a great fit next to Howard by stretching the floor, Lowry would give the Lakers a tough defensive PG, while Fields and Amir Johnson would give the Lakers a much needed infusion of youth and talent off the bench.
The Lakers could end up with a lineup like this if they resigned Howard for 2013:
PG Kyle Lowry/Steve Blake
SG Kobe Bryant/Jodie Meeks
SF Ron Artest/Landry Fields
PF Andrea Bargnani/Amir Johnson
C: Dwight Howard/Jordan Hill
While the Raps would look like this:
PG Steve Nash/John Lucas III
SG DeMar DeRozan/Terrence Ross
SF Rudy Gay/Linas Kleiza
PF Pau Gasol
C Jonas Valunciunas/Aaron Gray