The Lakers got beat by the Bulls today, the Lakers made a run in the third, but the Bulls pulled away in the last 5 minutes and won it. This is probably the biggest dissapointment in NBA history. The 2nd best shooting guard of all-time still averaging 30 a game, a 2 time MVP still putting up 12 and 9 a game, the best center in the game and a three time DPOY, a perennial All-Star still in his prime, and another former DPOY in Ron Artest.
This is getting crazy, I mean, 17-24?????? This is unprecedented, has there ever been a bigger failure than this in sports HISTORY? I know that there's still time to fix it and if they do fix it they could go far but this is turning into a worst case scenario or the Lakers, a full-fledged nightmare.
It is excruciatingly painful to watch Pau Gasol right now, He should be playing CENTER, and be on the BLOCK, not taking jump shots and threes. Guys, this is the same guy who Team USA had to double team and STILL couldn't stop. And don't even get me started on the disaster that has turned out to be Dwight Howard. Dude is non-existent, I'm starting to think Joakim Noah could help this Lakers team more than him.
D'Antoni has failed, flat out failed, I know it's up to the players to execute but he hasn't put them in a position to succeed.
The Lakers best chance is to trade Howard for Horford and Korver and play Gasol at center and run with it(But I know it won't happen)
And who is that man posing as Carlos Boozer and where has he been for the past 2 years? This man is reborn, didn't have a great game today, but the past 3 weeks or so he's been on a tear, averaging 22 and 11. He's starting to live up to that huge contract.
I'm sure that this isn't even as close to as big of a disappointment this team has been, especially to Lakers fans, but I'm still bitter about the late 90s/early 00s Braves teams that had the greatest pitching rotation ever with Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, and Rocker, even though I was only about 6 when they were together lol
But yeah I agree with you, I was one of the people that never thought they had a chance at winning the championship (at least this year), but I didn't think they would be this bad. I can't believe how bad Pau is playing, and their bench does close to nothing for them. It's hard to watch
Like Chuck said, Kobe should be looking forward to how much money he's going to save not buying playoff tickets.
Bryant is having bad nights, poor shooting, he is old but still in a very good level, just bad luck recently.
Gasol is slow, injuries had take the best of him, and he is old.
Howard is young, but coming from a surgery and not being himself lately.
Artest was a DPOY he is not that good anymore.
Nash is or was one of the best passers of the NBA, his defense is, well, non existent, he still has some fire but is 38 years old, dude should be a backup.
Howard is not running like Amare, Nash is not the same that won the 2 mvps, Artest is not the run and gun Shawn Marion, and not even playing the defense he is known for. Kobe is being ineffective and Gasol looks slow as a slug.
This team appears good on paper, but it is not, 3 great names on the decline of their career and a child in the post(Howard) not even phil can fix the lakers.
They're paying for not hiring Phil Jackson right now, their situation wouldn't possibly be as bad as it is now if they hired Phil. Its not even close, he looks more like a genius every passing day.
They obviously can't go to Phil Jackson now and their current roster obviously isn't working so does Gasol or Howard even have any trade value now?
From the moment they hired D'Antoni I said his system won't help this Lakers team as a whole. I'll admit, I didn't expect things to be this bad at this point, but I didn't think the Lakers could be real contenders with D'Antoni at the helm.
The bulls superstar is injured and beat a team with 4 superstars....
BUT TIME TO SEE SOME TRADES!!
No Deng tonight either. So basically a 34 year old Rip Hamilton, Kirk Hinrich, Carlos Boozer, and Joakim Noah beat Kobe, Dwight, Pau, Nash, and Metta. And the crazy thing is that we all know this wasn't even a fluke.
Man, Jimmy Butler is going to be a really good defender. He looked great on Kobe last night.
ive given up. Watching tonight, i turned it off with 6 minutes remaiing and it was 4 point game. I just knew what was coming and decided not to watch.
Im NOT saying jordan hill means the differnece between making th eplayoffs or not but losing him hurt big time Jamison might be the worst defedner i have ever seen. I mean he brings negative hustle and defense. Lakers need mroe guys that play with heart and hustle.
Hollinger's playoff odds give the Lakers a .2% chance of winning the tittle: the same as Toronto and Milwaukee.
^well book the cruise!
As far as Boozer goes I gotta ask... is it his contract year?
So what are the odds that Dwight re-signs with the Lakers?
I'd put em around 25%. This is what he wanted but it doesn't look like he likes playing with Kobe and vice versa. I don't think he has the personality to handle this type of pressurized situation either. He doesn't respond to criticism well and he's used to people kissing his ass.
I also have to wonder if his back problems are just the beginning. His back issues were similar to what Larry Johnson had early in his career and he was never the same physically after they started. It's almost February and he doesn't even look close to being 100%. He's also dealing with that shoulder problem too.
I think both he and Gasol look like damaged goods because that's exactly what they are.
i blame all this on the d'antoni hire. i mean, the team wasn't looking great at the start of the year, but wasn't looking awful either. now, d'antoni has inherited a roster that looks NOTHING like a d'antoni roster. they're old, they're big, they're slow. some fool somewgere just decided that because of his relationship with nash, he'd be good fpr them.
This is certainly not a happy man....
This just goes to show that money can't buy championships. Miami struggled their first year together even though they won. Sure the Celtics won the first year they came together but how much noise have they made since? I think Antawn Jameson is not playing well because of his sporadic playing time.
Lol, knowing the Lakers they're probably going to pull of a Pau Gasol for Kevin Love trade at the deadline. They always manage to do something lopsided.
I definitely agree with @morestealsthanscores, I think the D'Antoni hire was a bad move... They should have stuck with Phil Jackson. He even thought he was going to get the job!
I just think that it's time now that we realize just how important Phil Jackson was to the team. More so than Kobe was to it. And when people look back in history and say that the only help that MJ had was Scottie, I think Phil Jackson was an even greater contributor to the team. Remember that without MJ the bulls still went 2 rounds into the playoffs.
Gasol is a finesse big and can play away from the basket whilst not having a genuine 3 point range, I would have thought that he and D12 could co-exist in the paint. Utah have two bigs who play together neither of whom are finesse guys and the Spurs ran Robinson and TD together as volume scorers for a few years.
The biggest disaster for the Lakers could be if D12 did move on and they missed out on the play offs. You could see them getting lucky in the lottery and then everyone claiming it is a fix.
^ The Lakers don't own a 2013 pick. Either it goes to Cavs in a swap with Miamis pick and then that goes to the Suns or the Suns get it if they miss the playoffs.
Im not even a Lakers fan and it hurts me to watch them. I wanted the Laker-Heat NBA Finals matchup this year but we're obviously not getting that. They all are sucking right now. Except for Earl Clark who is making a name for himself in the midst of all of this BS. i'll list my problems in the order that I think they are the most responsible.
1. Mike D'Antoni- He's not that good of a coach. It worked in Phoenix with Amare and Nash but thats it. He couldnt do it in NY, and he's flunking out of LA and should be fired immediately. Not knowing who he wants to play, when to sub, what identity he wants for the team, its terrible.
2. Jim Buss- Firing Mike Brown after 1-4 was a horrible move all the way. Didnt even give the man a chance with the full roster. But Hiring D'Antoni was even worse.
3. Pau Gasol- I know he hasnt been played rightfully, and he is a starter in the league, but when he's out there, he has to play better. He's one of the most horrible defenders in the league. And he's ultra soft on offense. If I was coaching it would be hard for me to play him simply because he doesnt compete. He just doesnt. Effort goes a long way and he doesnt give effort. He's slow and barely attempts to make any contact with other players.
4. Kobe Bryant- Has to hold his self accountable more. HE scores, always have. But what elsse is he doing to make this thing work smoothly? He's pointing fingers constantly. With this team he has around him, HE out of all people should know how to make it work. He's jacking up 25shots but saying he's trying too get DH the ball as much as he can. With this team around him, Kobe should never have games where he's taking 25-35 shots.
5. Dwight Howard- Yea he's recovering from back surgery and still putting up good numbers, but no, he's not dominating like he should be. Dwight has to sell out each game. With his maximum effort every game, it'll be a big difference. Whether they win or not, he should be able to say he left it all on the court. He's letting everything around him frustrate him and it shows, he doesnt look happy. He has to impose his will, whether he fouls out or not. He has to get back to being dominant EVERY NIGHT. Not 2games on and 2games off.
But the fnniest part about this whole situation is it's not like tha Lakers are down right now but still holding on to the 8th spot in the west or tied for it lol they're not even close to being in the 8th spot, they are #12 in the west!
Kobe has got to be pissed.
Kobe said that he is trying his best to take care of Dwight. He's constantly trying to get him the ball and it gets him out of rhythm. He said he has a shot and goes up to shoot but then passes it to Dwight and it leaves him looking stupid sometimes. Well Obviously Kobe. Wow.... this sounds like another excuse from Kobe . If anything it sounds looks like bad judgement by him. IT showed a couple times last night, where he jumped in the air to shoot but Jimmy Butler was all over him causing Kobe to pass the ball to the open air because everyone is thinking he's going to shoot. That comes from taking a bad shot in the first place. And to put that on Dwight is just nonsense. Dwight is a great rebounder, along with Tyson Chandler, Reggie Evans, and Randolph. If you watch those guys in particularly, you would notice that they box out on offense just as much as they box out on defense. When it looks like there is going to be a shot taken, they spin off there man (who is watching the ball) to get position for the offensive rebound. Why on earth will anybody think that Kobe is about to pass the ball midway out of his attempt at a jump shot, anyway. You can Blame Dwight for a lot of things, but definitely not that.