The Lakers, according to sources who spoke with Peter Vecsey, offered Pau Gasol in a trade with the Timberwolves for Kevin Love.
The trade offer came following the canceled trade for Chris Paul.
Rubio and Gasol, with the other young players around them sounds like a nice core...It gives Gasol a chance to be the 1st option 20/10 Pf/C, and he's tall enough to start in a lineup with Beasley, Johnson or Williams at Sf and Pf, the Wolves also have Randolph who could benefit(along with Williams and Beasley) greatly from Gasol's veteran presence...The Wolves would still need a sharp shooting Sg(I think they would best served to go after Rudy Fernandez)...
The Wolves do need to trade 1 of the 4 young players they have at Pf...getting Gasol would make sense to me, he could help bring along the young bigs like Beasley, Williams amnd Randolph while pairing up with Rubio and giving Spain anew favorite NBA team, they need Rudy Fernadez too IMO( he's the perfect fit at Sg and can fill it up next to RUbio and Gasol)...
The Lakers would be getting a very good Power Forward and he fits well next to Kobe and Bynum, he can play pick and pop and hits the glass like an animal...they would have to resign Love to fat contract and that may make further moves harder but this is a great 1 for 1 IMHO...I wonder why the trade never got off the ground...
Good Trade for both if that happens.
I already stated my belief a year ago that Love could a top tier Power Forward in the NBA for the years to come. He could be one of the best Power Forwards in the near future. Already is today, but just not top 3 yet. He is the best rebounding big man in the NBA. Can shoot the outside shot. Bang down low. He could be a perfect 2nd option to kobe, and when kobe retires could hold it down for LA while LA is rebuilding as a young team. Gasol on the other hand would bring veteran leadership and experience for the young Timberwolves. He would be a good Number one option while Minny is developing its young players. Also it could relieve some of the stress on the two forward spots as he could start at Center with Any of the MANY young forwards that the wolves have right now (Williams,Beasley,Randolph,Johnson,Tolliver). Imo the Lakers get the better side of the deal as Love will only get better and Gasol will only get older. However overall it would be a solid trade for both teams. As i see Minny developing to a very good team in the future.
Love would've been a great 3rd option on the Lakers...
But the Lakers would've lost a lot of length and defense with that trade.
In my opinion I wouldnt do this trade is I was Minny if I lost Rubio, as the Spanish Connection would be an instant hit here and abroad, on and off the court. Conversely I would only do the trade if I was the Lakers if Rubio was included. No matter the depth acquired at any position, this trade would ultimately shape the fortunes the Lakers for the foreseable future, and with no plan at either guard spot post Kobe has got to be an uncomfortable proposition for Lakers fans and management.
Gasol is their best trade chip, and I personally cant see a trade involving Gasol that doesnt include a true ball handling prospect, with Philly with Holiday, Minny with Rubio, Ellis in Golden State who would benefit the most playing alongside Kobe, and even Jennings in Milwalkee. But th Lakers want, and need help at the guard position to continue to be relevant championship contenders in the future.
Whoever says this is a good trade for both teams is either a Lakers fan or a retard.....or both
But you are obviously a troll and will never be respected on this site...Your 1st post should be your last...tell me why a Gasol/Love trade wouldn't be good for both Teams...Gasol is longer and more skilled than Love right now, he's the better player for sure. he's a legit 7 footer with offensive skills that are world class, Love is the younger of the two, has had a great career early on with great stats to show for it, but he hasn't helped the Wolves rack up W's and Gasol and Rubio would be a great duo from a Basketball and Business stand point...I admit I hate the thought of the Lakers getting another young stud but they have two very good trade chips in Gasol and Bynum(so a trade for a great p;ayer is not out the realm of reality)...
You however are a true troll with 0 basketball IQ and I'm willing to bet you wont respond to the challenge I lay forth...
Gasol is in his 30s and on the downside of his career...
Love is 23 and still getting better. He also gets paid significantly less. He is one of the rising stars in the NBA and will grow with future studs like Williams and Rubio. Love is the perfect compliment to Rubio as Love is great at pick and rolls and is one of the be best shooting big men in the game.
And to say Gasol is the better play for sure is plain ignorant and stupid.
You say Love hasn't helped the Wolves to wins, but you think Gasol would've? What a stupid comment. Gasol has been helped by Kobe.
And I am a Wolves fan, so I watch Love every game and would not trade him for Gasol. Not even close.
And LA doesn't really have any great trade chips. Gasol is old and paid waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than he's worth, not to mention Bynum gets injured all the time.
You have not convinced me on why this trade would be good for the Wolves and never will.
You say Love hasn't helped the Wolves to wins, but you think Gasol would've
Pau led the grizz to the playoffs to 3 straight nba playoffs, love hasn't led wolves to .500 record. Not saying id do the trade but just throwing out stats
That was also like 7-8 years ago. A 30+ old Gasol won't be able to do that. Love also has had to play with retards on his team. This year the Wolves will be a good team and surprise people. They are a good young team. There is no reason at all Minnesota would do this deal.
and he won a NBA title against Wade and Lebron(who are younger and beter athletes as well)...age doesn't matter in the NBA...ask Tim Duncan, Boston's Big 3 and Kobe Bryant...Pau is 30 going on 31, but he;s still a better overall player than Love is right now, Love is a better rebounder and 3 point shooter, what else does he do better than Gasol??? You mention the fact Love is cheaper, you do realize players get extensions and Love is due for this SUMMER...he could cost 3 times the amount of Gasol's currnet deal, Love will command a 14 to 16 million dollar deal for more than 5 years, Gasol is being paid 14 million per over the next 2 years...The wolves would actually have more cap flexibility by making this deal...He then there are the basketball reasons as to way this deal makes sense for the Wolves, they have no real C and Gasol could easily be the answer there...The Wolves have 4 Pf's under contract right now, and sliding Love to C has not worked out in Minnesota, Gasol however won a Championship ring playing Center in LA(Bynum was hurt and largely ineffective in the NBA finals)...Bottom line is Love is not on Gasol's level right now and may never be at that level, stop looking at Statlines and Ages and look at their overall Impact on a game, Gasol is widely considered one of the Best Big men in The World, Love is still looked at as an anomaly and has over exceeded expectations for himself, no one saw him dropping 20 and 20 regularly, no one...Gasol would instantly make the Timberwolves a respectable team out West, with Love they are still looked at as a laughing stock Franchise...The Wolves would be better with Gasol, that's the truth and I love me some Kevin Love...
Only a closed minded Troll with 0 basketball IQ would think it's a bad trade for either Team, hell the Lakers could probally get Luke Ridnour and Wayne Ellington to add some depth as well...I'm sure Kaun would love to get Rubio more playing time and pairing him up with fellow Spainard Gasol on top of that...The Wolves would only need Rudy Fernandez to play the SG and that Team would take off...If they moved Wes Johnson for Rudy and a Draft pick in 2012(the Nuggets own theirs and NY's pick in 2012 I believe) they'd be good to go IMO...
I got to agree with uwbadger here. This would be a horrible trade for the twolves.
You dont trade a young and improving player like Kevin love for an aging Gasol
gasol for love would only make sense if minny was contending this year. which is not the case...
I don't know why the Lakers' over value their players. I mean, Gasol is no where Love's level right now.
As much s I love Kevin Love's game, he's not on the level of Gasol, even at 30 years old...Gasol would help bring in a winning attitude and provide a consistent # 1 option and leader...Rubio, Johnson, Williams ,Beasley, Randolph and Darko would all benefit greatly from Gasol being there...The Team would have an actual Idenity and not just be a collection of spare parts...Gasol lead far worst Teams in Memphis to better records than Love in Minnesota and Love has some real talent around him...Love has a collection of top 10 picks around him...Rubio, Beasley, Williams, Darko, Webster and Wes Johnson, they also had Johny Flynn and Traded away Ty Lawson for nothing...there is no excuse for the overall direction the Wolves have gone in Love's tenure and it may be time to put up some W's or face change in Minnesota...
The real question is will Kevin Love resign in Minny??
Add Gasol to the Wolves for Love and they are still far from a championship contender. So trading one of the best up and coming bigs in the league for Gasol makes little sense imo. I understood it from the standpoint of making Rubio more comfortable, but he seems just fine.
that must be one of them pipe dream trades just to see if kahn really knowsw what he is doing. Just because the lakers got pau for next to nothing doesnt mean another team is just going to hand over another player of that caliber for next to nothing. I know i am gonna get negatives for this comment but Kahn is all that stupid. case and point Al Jefferson he was able to get two protected first rounders from utah for him. best move the twolves ever made was dumping the blackhole onto someone else. its to bad it had to be to my team though.
I also agree that this would be a dumb trade for the Wolves. How does this make them better? It would make no sense for the Wolves to trade Love for Gasol, especially since you can make the argument that Love is a better player. Not to mention Gasol is much older with a much larger contact.
The Lakers would have to give up more than just Gasol to get Love imo. But realistically, unless they wanted to trade Bynum for him, the don't really have anything they can offer.
I think Minny would benifit for having a vet like Gasol whose game does not focus on playing above the rim. Gasol would have given them 6 solid years and some direction and experience. Also Gasol for Love straight up would be dumb because despite hype and numbers on a bad team Gasol is the superior talent.
Sheltwon is one of the few posters that watches the game...Love's stat are great but they haven't brought in W's...the Lkaers made a trade for Gasol and won a Championship...Gasol is twice as skill offensively and three times the defender Love is...their passing is about even, because Love can outlet pass with the best of them, but Gasol is a better half court set passer...would Love resign in Minnesota if they continue to lose games, my answer would be NO!!! He's already slept on Now, why would he continue to be hidden away in Minnesota...I agree the Lakers would probally have to include a 2012 first round pick to make it a sweeter deal for The Wolves, but people keep forgeting how good a PF/C Gasol is...he could be the best thing to happen to the Wolves since KG...I absolutly get whjy people wouldn't want to trade a younger player for a veteran but this case is different, The Veteran is a better fit and Team Leader than the young one...also you all keep forgeting that Love will be asking for a huge extension, I ask is he worth all the Money he'll be asking for in Minnesota????
Gasol maybe able to win you more games currently (I still think Love is already better), but you have to be insane to say this a fair trade. Unless the TWolves are going all out for this season, which would be ridiculous, you don't trade a potential superstar who's already putting up superstar numbers.
Gasol is near the end of his career and isn't the same player he was on the 2009 and 2010 finals teams. By the time all of the TWolves players reach their potential to make a playoff run, Gasol will be washed up and Love will still be putting up 30/20 games.
...I agree the Lakers would probally have to include a 2012 first round pick to make it a sweeter deal for The Wolves
Yeah because a late 20's first round pick really sweetens the deal.
This was obviously one of those BS trade offers that everyone includig the Lakers knew would get rejected.
It would be interesting if the Wolves said, "Ok, throw in Bynum, and we'll throw in Randolph.)
Scarecrow thinks it should have been accepted
The Gasol for Love trade was one of the most interesting rumours that I have heard in recent months and I was wondering just how it would have worked as the salaries in no way match and with the Lakers being way over cap would they not need to be within certain parameters or as the T-Wolves are under cap are they allowed to take on Gasol’s far greater salary?
If the Lakers had to take on salary levellers then I suppose Darko and Ridnour even Beasley might have to go in the trade unless the Lakers could somehow bring the Odom exception into play. The above may be a bit of a motley crew but I could see someone like Darko being a useful bench player for the Lakers as a defensive specialist.
Also does anyone else feel that Pau Gasol may be getting a bit annoyed by seeing his name constantly banded around in trades as he has helped the Lakers to 3 Finals appearances and two titles in his time there and as an All Star/near franchise level player who must be near or at his peak he has done all the Lakers have asked of him. I have not heard Kobe demand that the roster be changed or upgraded, we all know that Kobe is untouchable in LA due to his none trade clause and the success that he has brought the Lakers. I wonder if Kobe may be secretly happy with a Gasol or even Love type top running mate who will never really challenge his authority on the team. Lets say a Dwight Howard or a CP3 had/does end up in a Lakers line up and there was a power struggle with Kobe in a year or two’s time like what happened with Kobe and Shaq in 2004 then I could see a Kobe in his mid 30’s being the odd man out as the team would surely have to go with the younger guy unless Kobe being the player that he is was still at the top of his game.
K-Love may be a stats monster and one of the most exciting prospects in the NBA but I don’t see him bringing the Lakers the success that Gasol has helped Kobe achieve unless they were hoping to then still try and get Dwight Howard later on this year.
Gasol at the T-Wolves would immediately be the main offence rather like in his Memphis days and would give them a proven All Star veteran presence and he could play at 4 or 5 enabling Coach Adelman to put out a run and gun team if required.
The other wildcard is has Love perhaps indicated he will not extend with the T-wolves so he could look for a sign and trade this summer or even do another year on the roster and become unrestricted in 2013. The 2nd scenario is perhaps worse as the T-Wolves could get nothing back for Love and he’d probably be the top FA in 2013, maybe looking at options now covers all bases for the T-Wolves. Gasol is 32 this year but he is still a top NBA frontcourter and would surely help the team to progress so he’d be a nice person to get in exchange for Love.
I really really hope this post comes back at the end of the year when the Wolves actually have a decent record and we can all laugh how the young Kevin Love didn't bring W's when he had the worst coach in the NBA (seriously, why in the unhily F### would you run the offense through Darko, Kurt?) and practically no supporting cast.
I love Pau. He's great, but has clearly entered his decline phase. In addition, he's ridiculously expensive. He's arguably better than Love right now, but unless a first round playoff exit is the endgame for your team, you never ever take the declining old guy over the young superstar. And please, don't compare this to KG for Al Jefferson. Al has never touched Love's ability, and KG didn't transform the Celtics alone - they already had 2 big veterans and lucked into a superstar guard late in the first round.
The Gasol for Love trade is not an interesting rumor. Anyone who thinks this makes sense for the twolves does not know basketball or is a Lakers fan. The only way this would make any sense at all is if Love came out and said he would not sign an extension in MN and he has not done that.
well you guys should have kept dwane Casey, he got fired a year and a half into being a head coach with a 20-20 record that season, maybe if you kept him around Love could been coached extremely well but unfornately twolves have made a lot of questionable decisions. but even with a bad coach love could have atleast guided his team to a better record then he has
I'll be interested to see how K-Love develops under Coach Adelman as he has only had half a dozen games on no pre-season as such. If Rick can manage to gel all of the T-Wolves young talent then they could start going somewhere. He is still surely assessing his options and getting playing time under the belts of Rubio and Williams, decisions have to be made going forward for this team.
Casey absolutely never should have been let go, but how is that in any way Love's responsibility? Basketball is in no way an individual game. Love did damn near superhuman things to get his team wins, 30-30, really?, and they still gave DARKO the highest usage rate on the team. There is literally nothing any player can do about that.
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