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  • #31340
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    gambitace
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    his potential and hype would have landed him in the top 5 of this draft….

     

    Next year he will not be a lottery pick, mark my words

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  • #559653
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     If you’re talking about Jeremy, I disagree.  I think he’ll be top 5 next year too.  He has great length and transition game and is just a guy who makes big shots, he’s been clutch for U-Conn last year in the tourney and is a baller.  He’s got a good jumper and it’s improving, the kid is the real deal…mark my words.

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  • #559717
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    JoeWolf1

     If you’re talking about Jeremy, I disagree.  I think he’ll be top 5 next year too.  He has great length and transition game and is just a guy who makes big shots, he’s been clutch for U-Conn last year in the tourney and is a baller.  He’s got a good jumper and it’s improving, the kid is the real deal…mark my words.

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  • #559656
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    Anton123
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     I think next year he will be selected where he belongs (be that top 5 or mid first). 

    IMO it’s better to be selected where you belong than too high. It’s awful when people expect very much from you and you can’t fulfil their expectations.

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  • #559721
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    Anton123
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     I think next year he will be selected where he belongs (be that top 5 or mid first). 

    IMO it’s better to be selected where you belong than too high. It’s awful when people expect very much from you and you can’t fulfil their expectations.

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  • #559658
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    providencefriars1
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    Ya Jeremy is a top 5 pick but Doron is like 18-25 probably

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  • #559723
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    providencefriars1
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    Ya Jeremy is a top 5 pick but Doron is like 18-25 probably

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  • #559669
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    careful
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     I disagree. I think Jeremy Lamb will still be a top 5 pick.  He’s got great shooting touch, doesn’t make stupid mistakes, and has length that allows him to make plays on the defensive end.  He also has a floater that is unstoppable.  He’ll be Uconn’s go-to scorer next year.

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  • #559733
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    careful
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     I disagree. I think Jeremy Lamb will still be a top 5 pick.  He’s got great shooting touch, doesn’t make stupid mistakes, and has length that allows him to make plays on the defensive end.  He also has a floater that is unstoppable.  He’ll be Uconn’s go-to scorer next year.

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  • #559673
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    McDunkin

    After watching Tristan Thompson get drafted #4…im not calling anyone a top 5 anything until the night of the draft

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  • #559737
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    McDunkin

    After watching Tristan Thompson get drafted #4…im not calling anyone a top 5 anything until the night of the draft

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  • #559679
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    BasterdInABasket
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    I agree he should have came out. He got a championship and is coming off a great tourney run, putting up solid numbers in every big east and ncaa game. He’ll have to show that he can be a go to man this year not playing besides colleges best player. It was a big risk for him to come back, going from top SG and top 5 in 2011 and now having to do it all over again and more. I applaud him for comign back though along with other guys that could have been top 5.

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  • #559743
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    BasterdInABasket
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    I agree he should have came out. He got a championship and is coming off a great tourney run, putting up solid numbers in every big east and ncaa game. He’ll have to show that he can be a go to man this year not playing besides colleges best player. It was a big risk for him to come back, going from top SG and top 5 in 2011 and now having to do it all over again and more. I applaud him for comign back though along with other guys that could have been top 5.

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  • #559683
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    Platypus
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     with not knowing what will happen in the lockout i think it was a smart idea

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  • #559747
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    Platypus
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     with not knowing what will happen in the lockout i think it was a smart idea

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  • #559696
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    NO EZ BUCKETS
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    I disagree, with the possible lockout that was a good idea. Jeremy now gets an opportunity to be a leader and be "the man" on UCONN.

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  • #559761
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    I disagree, with the possible lockout that was a good idea. Jeremy now gets an opportunity to be a leader and be "the man" on UCONN.

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  • #559704
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    yellowdunker
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    Jeremy Lamb will be a for sure lotto pick @ 6’5” he’s defensive minded first then score not to metion he did a little playmaking for Kemba so he can come to the leage as a combo gaurd. with this weak draft that just passed he wouldve been top 3 IMO.

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  • #559769
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    Jeremy Lamb will be a for sure lotto pick @ 6’5” he’s defensive minded first then score not to metion he did a little playmaking for Kemba so he can come to the leage as a combo gaurd. with this weak draft that just passed he wouldve been top 3 IMO.

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  • #559712
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    gambitace
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    He lived off of spot ups….and teams playing zones because of Kemba….but we’ll see….

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  • #559777
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    gambitace
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    He lived off of spot ups….and teams playing zones because of Kemba….but we’ll see….

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  • #559714
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    gambitace
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    and he wont be a lottery pick because of defensive potential to guard the wing….

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  • #559779
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    gambitace
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    and he wont be a lottery pick because of defensive potential to guard the wing….

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  • #559742
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    I don’t think he would have gone top 10 this year but he probably would have gone anywhere from 10 to 20.  I think he can go top 10 next year since I think he can be the best shooting guard out there.  It’s not really the first contract that matters, but the second one.  I think another year in college will help him more with the second contract.

    I think Jeremy Lamb could be picked by a lot of teams next year.  If the Bobcats don’t get a top 3 pick then they might go with Jeremy Lamb to be their shooting guard since they already have Kemba/Agustin at point, and Bismack and Tyrus Thomas up front. 

    The Cavs won’t have a great fit in the draft next year unless they can get lucky and get a top 3 pick and select Harrison Barnes.  Other than that and Perry Jones the lottery will be filled with tweeners and some point guards, no centers, then a ball-dominant Austin Rivers who may or may not fit in with a guy like Kyrie Irving.  … Jeremy Lamb might be a good pick for them if the Cavs end up in the 6-8 range.  I doubt they take Jared Sullinger even though he might be the best guy available in that range.

     

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  • #559808
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    I don’t think he would have gone top 10 this year but he probably would have gone anywhere from 10 to 20.  I think he can go top 10 next year since I think he can be the best shooting guard out there.  It’s not really the first contract that matters, but the second one.  I think another year in college will help him more with the second contract.

    I think Jeremy Lamb could be picked by a lot of teams next year.  If the Bobcats don’t get a top 3 pick then they might go with Jeremy Lamb to be their shooting guard since they already have Kemba/Agustin at point, and Bismack and Tyrus Thomas up front. 

    The Cavs won’t have a great fit in the draft next year unless they can get lucky and get a top 3 pick and select Harrison Barnes.  Other than that and Perry Jones the lottery will be filled with tweeners and some point guards, no centers, then a ball-dominant Austin Rivers who may or may not fit in with a guy like Kyrie Irving.  … Jeremy Lamb might be a good pick for them if the Cavs end up in the 6-8 range.  I doubt they take Jared Sullinger even though he might be the best guy available in that range.

     

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  • #559752
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    cward23
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    top 5???? I like his game as well as the next guy but he will not go ahead of

    Sullinger
    Barnes
    Davis
    Gilchrist
    Rivers
    Q.Miller
    McAdoo

    He MIGHT be a top 10 pick next season

    This year we will see what he is really made of not that defenses won’t be soley focused on Kemba

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  • #559819
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    top 5???? I like his game as well as the next guy but he will not go ahead of

    Sullinger
    Barnes
    Davis
    Gilchrist
    Rivers
    Q.Miller
    McAdoo

    He MIGHT be a top 10 pick next season

    This year we will see what he is really made of not that defenses won’t be soley focused on Kemba

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  • #559754
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    "After watching Tristan Thompson get drafted #4…im not calling anyone a top 5 anything until the night of the draft"

    Exactly. Plus, I have to see how he plays without Kemba Walker. I really do. He’s a talented player with some tools to be a high pick, but I have to watch him play when he’s gameplanned against by Big East teams.

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  • #559821
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    JNixon
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    "After watching Tristan Thompson get drafted #4…im not calling anyone a top 5 anything until the night of the draft"

    Exactly. Plus, I have to see how he plays without Kemba Walker. I really do. He’s a talented player with some tools to be a high pick, but I have to watch him play when he’s gameplanned against by Big East teams.

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  • #559776
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    Tristan Thompson is very underrated..I really believe that if he was 6’10 or 7 feet,he might’ve went number 1..Becuz he plays the way a big man should play..Once he polish his offensive game,he’ll be fine..

    His selection at number 4 reminds me of that 2008 draft when almost everyone was surprised to see Russell Westbrook go number 4..They were saying that was too high for him..Alot of people were expecting Bayless to go number 4.

    .And the 2003 draft, when everyone was expecting Miami to select TJ Ford or Chris Kaman…

    They were saying Wade was too short and couldnt shoot to play shooting guard..And they said Westbrook couldnt shoot and hadnt played point guard before..But now both those guys are All League Performers…..

    Give Cleveland a BIG THUMBS UP for selecting the best available player…..

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  • #559843
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Tristan Thompson is very underrated..I really believe that if he was 6’10 or 7 feet,he might’ve went number 1..Becuz he plays the way a big man should play..Once he polish his offensive game,he’ll be fine..

    His selection at number 4 reminds me of that 2008 draft when almost everyone was surprised to see Russell Westbrook go number 4..They were saying that was too high for him..Alot of people were expecting Bayless to go number 4.

    .And the 2003 draft, when everyone was expecting Miami to select TJ Ford or Chris Kaman…

    They were saying Wade was too short and couldnt shoot to play shooting guard..And they said Westbrook couldnt shoot and hadnt played point guard before..But now both those guys are All League Performers…..

    Give Cleveland a BIG THUMBS UP for selecting the best available player…..

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  • #559790
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    cward23
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    I can’t see Thompson going number one even if he is 6’10. Big men with that size don’t go number one if there strength is just rebounding and defense. You only go that high because of what you can do on offense. That doesn’t mean you will Have a better career but who was the last guy to go number one who was limited on offense but a good defender and rebounder?? There have been guys taller than him and just as good at rebounding and defense but didnt go nuber one.

    And all the guys you named were better offensive players than Thompson which is why some may say he went to high. I think he went to high because there were better players available. I don’t see much of a difference between Tristian and Hickson to be honest except Hickson was a slightly better offensive player when he came out after one year and he was a year younger (Tristian is 20)

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  • #559857
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    I can’t see Thompson going number one even if he is 6’10. Big men with that size don’t go number one if there strength is just rebounding and defense. You only go that high because of what you can do on offense. That doesn’t mean you will Have a better career but who was the last guy to go number one who was limited on offense but a good defender and rebounder?? There have been guys taller than him and just as good at rebounding and defense but didnt go nuber one.

    And all the guys you named were better offensive players than Thompson which is why some may say he went to high. I think he went to high because there were better players available. I don’t see much of a difference between Tristian and Hickson to be honest except Hickson was a slightly better offensive player when he came out after one year and he was a year younger (Tristian is 20)

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  • #559792
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    Tristian Thompson must have impressed Chris Grant for him to be taken at 4 but if he was after a big then we know that Jonas has buyout issues and Biyombo is a long way off so perhaps he had to reach for Thompson. I had Thompson outside the lottery in my mock which I soon realised was wrong but I never thought he would go top 5.

    Jeremy Lamb is a top 10 prospect and if teams do need an SG lets say Cleveland end up high in the lottery again then he could well go very high although I’d be surprised if he went ahead of Davis, Barnes and a couple of others.

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  • #559860
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    Tristian Thompson must have impressed Chris Grant for him to be taken at 4 but if he was after a big then we know that Jonas has buyout issues and Biyombo is a long way off so perhaps he had to reach for Thompson. I had Thompson outside the lottery in my mock which I soon realised was wrong but I never thought he would go top 5.

    Jeremy Lamb is a top 10 prospect and if teams do need an SG lets say Cleveland end up high in the lottery again then he could well go very high although I’d be surprised if he went ahead of Davis, Barnes and a couple of others.

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  • #559794
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    First of all two years ago, I remember Willie Warren was a top 6 to top 10 projection. Then he goes back to school, struggles a bit, and gets drafted in the fifties! And he was probably drafted by teh Clips because Blake probably wanted to play with his college buddy. Nothing is for cetain. How will he handle going from robin to batman. I hope he plays well, and in my opinion, he is a 7-12 pick, with potential to be a one or two time all star.

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  • #559862
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    First of all two years ago, I remember Willie Warren was a top 6 to top 10 projection. Then he goes back to school, struggles a bit, and gets drafted in the fifties! And he was probably drafted by teh Clips because Blake probably wanted to play with his college buddy. Nothing is for cetain. How will he handle going from robin to batman. I hope he plays well, and in my opinion, he is a 7-12 pick, with potential to be a one or two time all star.

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  • #559900
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    ^^^ and that could happen to Lamb who didn’t have to face as tough of defense last year because of Kemba ala Warreen with Blake, But now he will.

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  • #559830
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    ^^^ and that could happen to Lamb who didn’t have to face as tough of defense last year because of Kemba ala Warreen with Blake, But now he will.

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  • #559904
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    JoeWolf1

     We also have no idea who is going to be one and done.  Not high hype HSS’s have great freshman years and some end up playing 2, 3, or even 4 seasons.  When 9 of the projected 2012 lottery are incoming freshman you know all of them aren’t going to be in the draft next year.  Especially with all the great sophomore players that are coming out next year.  

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  • #559834
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    JoeWolf1

     We also have no idea who is going to be one and done.  Not high hype HSS’s have great freshman years and some end up playing 2, 3, or even 4 seasons.  When 9 of the projected 2012 lottery are incoming freshman you know all of them aren’t going to be in the draft next year.  Especially with all the great sophomore players that are coming out next year.  

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  • #559949
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    BasterdInABasket
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    Its hard for me to buy the lockout uncertainty for some of these guys. The NBA will be back some time this season and money is money. Risk coming out next year in a much more talented class and youre leaving a lot of money on the table. http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9303 The difference between dropping 4 spots (1 to 5, 2 to 6 and so on) is 1.5 to 1 Mil a year. Thats potentially a lot of money guys like Lamb and Sullinger risk losing not coming out so financially it i doesnt make sense.

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  • #560019
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    Its hard for me to buy the lockout uncertainty for some of these guys. The NBA will be back some time this season and money is money. Risk coming out next year in a much more talented class and youre leaving a lot of money on the table. http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9303 The difference between dropping 4 spots (1 to 5, 2 to 6 and so on) is 1.5 to 1 Mil a year. Thats potentially a lot of money guys like Lamb and Sullinger risk losing not coming out so financially it i doesnt make sense.

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  • #559962
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    That is a nice amount of money but at the same time they would still be maing millions. Sullinger and Lamb left more than that going back to college so i doubt its more of a risk to make 1.5 less when you are already making millions compared to making nothing in college

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  • #560031
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    That is a nice amount of money but at the same time they would still be maing millions. Sullinger and Lamb left more than that going back to college so i doubt its more of a risk to make 1.5 less when you are already making millions compared to making nothing in college

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  • #559994
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    I don’t see how Jeremy Lamb would have been a shoo-in for a top 10 pick.  Kemba only went 7th and he was THE TEAM.  Brandon Knight went 8th, Jimmer went 10th, and Klay Thompson and Burks went after that.  Kawhi Leonard was supposedly a top 5-10 pick and he fell to 15.  I am not sure that Jeremy Lamb would have necessarily gone ahead of those guys.  If he improves I think his draft position will still be in the 10-15 range which it probably was this year too. 

    Next year’s draft will SUPPOSEDLY have a lot more talent but some of those guys might not come out, and some of the top projected players might pan out.  I think another year will help his development, and even if he loses a couple of spots, the most important thing is that SECOND contract. 

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  • #560063
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    I don’t see how Jeremy Lamb would have been a shoo-in for a top 10 pick.  Kemba only went 7th and he was THE TEAM.  Brandon Knight went 8th, Jimmer went 10th, and Klay Thompson and Burks went after that.  Kawhi Leonard was supposedly a top 5-10 pick and he fell to 15.  I am not sure that Jeremy Lamb would have necessarily gone ahead of those guys.  If he improves I think his draft position will still be in the 10-15 range which it probably was this year too. 

    Next year’s draft will SUPPOSEDLY have a lot more talent but some of those guys might not come out, and some of the top projected players might pan out.  I think another year will help his development, and even if he loses a couple of spots, the most important thing is that SECOND contract. 

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  • #559998
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    jeff416
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    Kemba went 9th.

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  • #560067
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    jeff416
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    Kemba went 9th.

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  • #560139
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    tke744
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    Top 5 in 2012 draft? Barnes, sullinger, perry jones, anthony jones, the other 4 starters from kentucky. I am having a hard time believing he will be top 5. Obviously i am missing a lot of people from that list, but i doubt Jeremy lamb will be better then enough of thsoe players to be in the top 5. Theres the rest of the players from UNC and Baylor as well, so i dont know he would have to kill it this season to be top 5. Who should have left is Jonas Jenkis, that guy was a lock first rounder IMO but i dont know if he gets in this year.

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  • #560072
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    Top 5 in 2012 draft? Barnes, sullinger, perry jones, anthony jones, the other 4 starters from kentucky. I am having a hard time believing he will be top 5. Obviously i am missing a lot of people from that list, but i doubt Jeremy lamb will be better then enough of thsoe players to be in the top 5. Theres the rest of the players from UNC and Baylor as well, so i dont know he would have to kill it this season to be top 5. Who should have left is Jonas Jenkis, that guy was a lock first rounder IMO but i dont know if he gets in this year.

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  • #560172
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    cward23
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    He wouldn’t be top 5 if the draft only consisted of UNC,UK players and Jeremy

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  • #560105
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    cward23
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    He wouldn’t be top 5 if the draft only consisted of UNC,UK players and Jeremy

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  • #560135
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    providencefriars1
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    umm bud I hope you mean Terrance Jones is better than Lamb not Anthony Jones because there is no way in hell thats true. Also John Jenkins will be a first rounder or early second rounder this year.

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  • #560201
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    providencefriars1
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    umm bud I hope you mean Terrance Jones is better than Lamb not Anthony Jones because there is no way in hell thats true. Also John Jenkins will be a first rounder or early second rounder this year.

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  • #560149
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     Man honestly, I think if he would’ve entered the draft this year, there’s a chance he wouldn’t even be selected in the 1st. Look what happened to a guy like Tyler Honeycutt goin in the 2nd round, Jordan Hamilton falling to 26, I’d take those guys before taking Lamb. There was a reason he and his father decided against entering this year, the feedback they got probably wasn’t too favorable, they probably heard something like 20-40 depending on the workout process since it was so early like May or so. Imagine him in a workout setting, I could certainly see him struggling getting in his on shot off against more physical wings and not being able to even defend them consistently. He has a lot to work on to become a better player and more prepared player for the next level. He has a lot to work on to get better for even for college ball! He played well off a top 10 pick (Kemba), so it was easy for him to find his spots without the focus on him.

    But the thing though, its like everyone wants to see Lamb become an All-American right away next year, and if he doesn’t, label him a disappointment or bust. I think he’s a 3-4 year guy, who’ll improve every year and get stronger while expanding his game. And next year there’s a good bunch of talent on that team, so I don’t expect him to have to carry the load. What his freshman year did was put him on the nba radar, but to say he’s a bonified top 5 pick might be pushing it a bit. Then again, next year around this time I may be eating crow, we’ll see…

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  • #560215
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     Man honestly, I think if he would’ve entered the draft this year, there’s a chance he wouldn’t even be selected in the 1st. Look what happened to a guy like Tyler Honeycutt goin in the 2nd round, Jordan Hamilton falling to 26, I’d take those guys before taking Lamb. There was a reason he and his father decided against entering this year, the feedback they got probably wasn’t too favorable, they probably heard something like 20-40 depending on the workout process since it was so early like May or so. Imagine him in a workout setting, I could certainly see him struggling getting in his on shot off against more physical wings and not being able to even defend them consistently. He has a lot to work on to become a better player and more prepared player for the next level. He has a lot to work on to get better for even for college ball! He played well off a top 10 pick (Kemba), so it was easy for him to find his spots without the focus on him.

    But the thing though, its like everyone wants to see Lamb become an All-American right away next year, and if he doesn’t, label him a disappointment or bust. I think he’s a 3-4 year guy, who’ll improve every year and get stronger while expanding his game. And next year there’s a good bunch of talent on that team, so I don’t expect him to have to carry the load. What his freshman year did was put him on the nba radar, but to say he’s a bonified top 5 pick might be pushing it a bit. Then again, next year around this time I may be eating crow, we’ll see…

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  • #560160
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    tke744
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    thanks for the correction dude ya anthony jones = anthony davis plus terrance jones, ahah. That wasnt on purpose just wasnt paying attention when i typed it.

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  • #560226
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    tke744
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    thanks for the correction dude ya anthony jones = anthony davis plus terrance jones, ahah. That wasnt on purpose just wasnt paying attention when i typed it.

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