I still have no idea how Kahn has lasted this long. Love sounds kinda whiney compared to KG but he has a point with the endless wasted draft picks.
How was your food at the downtown Philly steakhouse? We got more than enough good food for you to try for the next 7 years if you want!
In seriousness though, the T-Wolves been had been a pathetic organization. Just mess up after mess up. I would make a joke about how maybe Kahn was the one smoking too much weed, but that's just an unfair and offensive statement to smokers everywhere.
Winning solves these types of issues and the Wolves are going to start winning a lot of games. They just need some time playing together and jelling. I'm not saying Kahn had a plan or can draft, but he got the last off season right and the team will come together and start beating people. Then everyone will be happy.
I think Kevin needs to shut up and realize just how big of a loss Rubio is
C'Mon Condrin you're better then that. Yes losing Rubio was a significant loss, BUT, the point of the article was that had Khan made even half decent descicions they it wouldn't of been that big of a loss. The Wolves should of had a guy like Steph Curry or Brandon Jennings along with Rubio. This isn't hindsight, we all knew that Curry, Jennings, and Holiday were going to be better then Flynn. Well everybody except Khan and Syracuse fans. Most of us realized that Paul George would be better then Wesley Johnson. Wesley Johnson was a terrible pick at 4, I did think Wes would of been a solid player, but not at 4 over guys like Cousins, Monroe, and George.
Remenber why the Wolves drafted Wes in the 1st place instead of drafting a center to compliment Love was because Khan just signed Darko to a big deal. So Khan obviously thought Darko was a better player then Demarcus Cousins and Greg Monroe.....think about that one...
We all heard it before but still, Rubio-Steph Curry-Paul George-Love-Kanter looks like a very formidable lineup. Imagine how many assists Rubio would of averaged last year had he had that type of talent.
Reading about how Randy Whitman told Love not to shoot 3's made me crack up laughing. He's another guy who I can't believe still has his job.
Like the OP says, he has a point with the wasted draft picks and free agents being signed to big contracts like Darko only to be gone soon later. Then the owner has the cheek to put him down because he hasn't led them to the playoffs?
He should feel encouraged with the way Rubio, Pekovic, Kirilenko etc have played but I think he does has the right to leave at the end of his contract because there clearly wasn't much of a plan when he was busting his ass off getting better and better.
That was a good read.
Hey could this open up a Love to the Lakers for Gasol and pieces. I mean it looks like he is going to leave no matter what. I am sure Minny could get a better deal for him but still we are talking about Minny here. Anything is possible.
silly laker fan.
PS, its more likely a greek player plays in the NBA.
No way Love goes to the lakers.
Khan might be dumb enough to actually make that trade. If I'm the Lakers I would trade Howard for Love and be done with it.
Star players elevate their teammates.
Ricky Rubio is hurt, so it is hard to judge the current team but I dont think it was put together poorly at all. If Love was THAT good, the team as it is presently constructed is good enough to be a playoff team. It isn't a very good organization, but the players they have put in place are not bad at all. Love seems pretty arrogant, he's one of those guys who thinks hes better than he actually is.
Maybe this is just semantics, but I consider a star player to be a very productive player you can rely on in the clutch (which Love is), while a superstar is the transcendent talent that puts up big stats and dominates games to the point of making an average team a contender.
Regardless, however, what's the point of T-Wolves trying to slight Love? He can't be too much more productive than he already is. There is usually a reason you make a comment like they did, which is to stoke a fire in someone performing below their potential. I just don't see their rationale.
You beat me to it.
I mean, Kevin Love is very good... However, who does this guy think he is? He acts like he's not a part of the losing culture. Somebody needs to tell him that if he was that good, he'd be elevating the play of his teammates. The players put around him haven't been that damn bad. The team has gone through a ton of injuries as well.
Love has made some very arrogant comments and does seem to have an over-inflated view of himself. I don't know if that's the mindset he's given himself to push himself to become better against the doubts of others, but it's very annoying.
I don't think Love is a superstar at all. The quote the owner made was right on to me. Love can fill a stat sheet, but it's never resulted in wins.
Kevin Garnett maxed out the potential of everyone on the timberwolves, they may have sucked some years, but his leadership and workethic made them a lot better. Kevin love just complains all the time. He was out of shape until his contract year where he lost 20lbs in the off season. He needs to bring it with his work ethic and leadership night in and night out (I know he works hard but a leader never complains). Lebron never complained in cleveland about his supporting cast who were terrible and helped them over achieve, I know he left but they had nobody and proceeded to have the worst record the next year. If kevin Love left the timberwolves still win 40 games because of rubio and the supporting cast.
So Kevin Love was out of shape the year he averaged 20 and 15? Right, well regardless of what shape you thought he was in Love has produced big time at every level of basketball. Look at young bigs like Favors who come in great shape yet was he able to put together a rookie season like Love? In fact Love's rookie season itself was very solid for a 19 year old big as they rarely average double digits points their first year in the league.
No team is going to win a title with Love. He will probably leave and gang up with some of his "buddies" and play for a contender. Not that I disagree with this, but its just the point that he won't be a winner on his own.
And hes just acting as if he is above their organization...based on what? Who are you, Kevin Love?
Kahn needs a bit of slack here. He has put a decent team in place with the massive handicap of playing in Minnesota. I mean noone wants to go play in Minnesota. Their greatest ever free agent signing was seemingly a toss up between Mike James and Joe Smith lol. It isn't easy when literally noone wants to come play for you. It just seems to me Love is using this an excuse to leave in a few years. He was born and raised in Santa Monica which is the polar opposite to Minnesota and would much prefer to live in a warm weather city with a better team. I really hope he stays though, I like the timberwolves as currently constructed.
This article is weird. It doesnt really bug me and I can understand some of what he is saying, but I do not see the point of the article. Seems weird for Love to come out and say all this stuff in the middle of a competitive season. That being said, I am getting really tired of Kevin's constant complaining on the court. He literally doesnt even run back on defense half the time because he is too busy complaining to the refs. He does it multiple times each game and it is so stupid.
He's a star who thinks he's a superstar.
I think he must know that he isn't a superstar, but it's a natural reaction to be defensive when someone tries to rub it in your face to the media.
This story should not even be a surprise. Management is where everything starts for an organization. If the players do not trust management's ability to make decisions, they will not try hard. Its simple, think about your own jobs... do you try hard if your boss is a moron? When an organization has a reputation for being poorly managed, players will not want to go there, especially when it is in a cold-weather state. If you are the best player on your team and you know that you will never be able to make a run at the playoffs because management cannot secure the talent you need through the draft, or free agency, you will get frustrated.
I have never thought Kahn was a good GM. Yes, he drafted Rubio and Rubio has some potential, but that was years ago and Rubio has not even played one full season. Also, take a look at how that draft happened; Kahn passes on Steph Curry to take Rubio (who did not want to go to MN) and Johnny Flynn, then drafted and traded Ty lawson for garbage, all bc he thought johnny flynn was legit....That turn of events went about as bad as anything could... the only way it could be worse is if Rubio decided he did not want to go to the NBA. However, if it happened any other way, MN is a much better team. I think that says everything anyone needs to know about his judgement.
Nonetheless, this summer Kahn picked up Kirilenko, and gave him a $6m raise over what he was being paid in russia (usually players go to russia to make more $, not the other way around), gave Brandon Roy $5m (should be a min contract...he has no knees) and then gave Batum a contract that he could not actually give him through the cap. Wow, I wonder what other professionals think of a GM who DOES NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE CAP WORKS? Now look at their team, they have 5 pgs and no shooting guards! after this summer they are going to be capped out because they will need to match Pekovic. They can't even make any big moves in Free Agency. Sorry MN fans, but there needs to be some sort of miracle (like Rubio coming back from knee surgery and averaging 20 and 10) in the next 2 years or Kevin Love is walking...
I said it a couple months ago and I will say it again, the T-Wolves are just buying their time until K-Love becomes the next Dwight Howard crisis. It's pretty obvious he's already wanting out, just a matter of time....
How am I silly i guess you were the same people who thought Lakers could not get Nash or Howard and it happened. Gasol would actually work better with Minny anyway because they play at a slower pace. Minny is looking to do a most Euro baller team.
I know you are mad that the Lakers have a bunch of rings and will find a way to get some more. Don't hate me, hate the game.
I'm honestly shocked that so many people disagree with this article. I think it's right on the money and this was an interview not something Kevin went out his way to say. You can't hit in every draft but Khan made some really obviously bad choices.
Like even if Flynn did pan out what did they expect was gonna happen when Rubio came stateside? Flynn is way too short to play SG and isn't a great shooter anyway. Atleast with Curry they would of been able to play him at SG with Rubio which would of been amazing.
They just let Beasley walk instead of trading him last year like they should have.
I loved Derrick Williams in college and even thought Cleveland should of drafted him first before coming around to Kyrie. But I never thought Minny should of drafted him because they have no use for him. He simply doesn't fit at all and never did. Kanter IMO was the obvious choice and their were wispers that the Wolves even considered Biyombo who would of been a better pick.
They going to end up overpaying for Pekovic too.
And to act like Kevin Love isn't a superstar is beyond ridiculous. I guess that year Kobe missed the playoffs he wasn't a superstar right?
I guess Lamarcus Aldridge is no longer a stud because the Blazers will miss the playoffs right?
LOL, K.Love is no superstar... All-Star, yes. D.Rose, CP3, Dirk, Lebron, Durant are the Superstars. The Wolves where playing better before Love came back since he return their offense has become stagnant again.
This is not a popular opinion, but i think rubio's impact is overstated.
Well you are wrong. In 2010 the wolves were the worst team in the league on defense. We add Rubio for 2011 and immediatly we are in the top 15 on defense and in the playoff hunt. Rubio goes down and instantly we drop back down to one of the worst defensive teams and go from 21-20 to 26-40. 18-13 with Rubio in the starting lineup and 8-27 when he was not. Kevin Love is the best player on the Wolves. Rubio is the most valuable.
even though kahn has made mistakes.... the wolves still have a possible playoff team when healthy..... idk if that is out of luck or what