[Lotto StudParticipant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMrDjJz6ugU

[delfamParticipant]

I’m still not sold on Smart, yes he is a great leader but is he too big to play PG? Yes Deron Williams is a bigger PG but Im not sure if Smart can cover the quicker PG’s in the league or if he’s quick enough himself to beat his defender. He’s an interesting prospect for sure though.

[delfamParticipant]

I’m still not sold on Smart, yes he is a great leader but is he too big to play PG? Yes Deron Williams is a bigger PG but Im not sure if Smart can cover the quicker PG’s in the league or if he’s quick enough himself to beat his defender. He’s an interesting prospect for sure though.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Quickness shouldn’t be a factor, he’s a lot quicker than Andre Miller who happens to play the 1 and defends the position.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Quickness shouldn’t be a factor, he’s a lot quicker than Andre Miller who happens to play the 1 and defends the position.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

I’m not sure if u ever saw Smart play if you think Deron is bigger or if u feel like Smart will have any trouble matching up athletically.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

I’m not sure if u ever saw Smart play if you think Deron is bigger or if u feel like Smart will have any trouble matching up athletically.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

I don’t consider him a pg. He is a under sized two playing the point.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

I don’t consider him a pg. He is a under sized two playing the point.

[delfamParticipant]

Comparing him to Miller is just dumb. Miller is one of the craftiest PG’s ever and is super skilled. I think Smart will be similar to Brandon Roy where he needs to ball in his hand but is more of a 2 guard. You’ll have to pair him with a unique PG to compliment him.

[delfamParticipant]

Comparing him to Miller is just dumb. Miller is one of the craftiest PG’s ever and is super skilled. I think Smart will be similar to Brandon Roy where he needs to ball in his hand but is more of a 2 guard. You’ll have to pair him with a unique PG to compliment him.

[NickWayne87Participant]

and averages 25ppg and 10ast and is the number 1 pick he made the wrong decision.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

Why? Players make the majority of their money on the second contract. Going back to school and becoming a better player when he comes out will only serve to help him. He will still most likely be a top 5, maybe even a top 3 pick, depending on what team is picking and whether they need a PG or not, and even if he does slide, the difference between the contracts for a number 3 pick and a number 7 is a few hundred thousand dollars, which wont matter if he is a better player and can earn his second contract.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

Why? Players make the majority of their money on the second contract. Going back to school and becoming a better player when he comes out will only serve to help him. He will still most likely be a top 5, maybe even a top 3 pick, depending on what team is picking and whether they need a PG or not, and even if he does slide, the difference between the contracts for a number 3 pick and a number 7 is a few hundred thousand dollars, which wont matter if he is a better player and can earn his second contract.

[NickWayne87Participant]

and averages 25ppg and 10ast and is the number 1 pick he made the wrong decision.

[BenchWarmerParticipant]

Marcus smart is a point guard at heart, and should be going forward. He can be utilized as a combo guard and YES he will be capable of defending pointguards..did you guys watch him last year?

Delfam his point was if slower weaker players can defend the point he most certainly can.

[BenchWarmerParticipant]

Marcus smart is a point guard at heart, and should be going forward. He can be utilized as a combo guard and YES he will be capable of defending pointguards..did you guys watch him last year?

Delfam his point was if slower weaker players can defend the point he most certainly can.

[tdigiParticipant]

One of smarts biggest strengths is his defense, the guy is a bulldog and probably one of the best all around defenders in college basketball.
I don’t think there’s a current nba comparison, possibly Joe Dumars. His decision to go back to college was in part because he wanted to be nba ready at the point guard position. He played every position in high school and ok state was his first time playing point full time.
He’s still a work in progress like most freshman however you gotta look at his work ethic, his leadership, his confidence. I think there’s no doubt he develops a consistent jump shot and by the time he declares for the draft next year we’ll be talking about a possible college POY.
Just as Rose and Westbrook pioneered the super athletic scoring point guard position I predict Smart creates a position of his own, the lockdown bully defender and floor general. No Nba point guard is going to want to play against him.

[tdigiParticipant]

One of smarts biggest strengths is his defense, the guy is a bulldog and probably one of the best all around defenders in college basketball.
I don’t think there’s a current nba comparison, possibly Joe Dumars. His decision to go back to college was in part because he wanted to be nba ready at the point guard position. He played every position in high school and ok state was his first time playing point full time.
He’s still a work in progress like most freshman however you gotta look at his work ethic, his leadership, his confidence. I think there’s no doubt he develops a consistent jump shot and by the time he declares for the draft next year we’ll be talking about a possible college POY.
Just as Rose and Westbrook pioneered the super athletic scoring point guard position I predict Smart creates a position of his own, the lockdown bully defender and floor general. No Nba point guard is going to want to play against him.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

I’m with tdigi on this one. I think if he entered this year he would have been the best player in the draft. He is a point guard, if he was 6’2 it wouldn’t be a question but since he’s a solid 6’4 with a mans body people think he’s a combo guard. When playing for Team USA he was noted to be the toughest defender out there and prides himself on his competitive nature. I’m really hoping the Suns can get him next year if they miss out on Wiggins or Parker.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

I’m with tdigi on this one. I think if he entered this year he would have been the best player in the draft. He is a point guard, if he was 6’2 it wouldn’t be a question but since he’s a solid 6’4 with a mans body people think he’s a combo guard. When playing for Team USA he was noted to be the toughest defender out there and prides himself on his competitive nature. I’m really hoping the Suns can get him next year if they miss out on Wiggins or Parker.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

This is one of those threads if you say anything negative about the players you will get negged.

[tdigiParticipant]

That’s fine that you don’t think he’s a PG but most other people do including GM’s and nba experts. So your probably wrong about it considering he’s going to play his 2nd straight season at Point for Ok State, which is why you got negged in your earlier post.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

Yeah, I can tell by your profile picture you are a huge fan.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

Yeah, I can tell by your profile picture you are a huge fan.

[tdigiParticipant]

That’s fine that you don’t think he’s a PG but most other people do including GM’s and nba experts. So your probably wrong about it considering he’s going to play his 2nd straight season at Point for Ok State, which is why you got negged in your earlier post.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

This is one of those threads if you say anything negative about the players you will get negged.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

I love Smart’s aggressiveness on the court, but he has to refine his game if he wants to be a pg at the NBA level. He is wired to be a scorer and has to improve his shot selection and decision making on the court to really excel as an NBA pg. He is a good passer, but he needs to learn to choose his spots better to really excel at the NBA level. He also should tighten up his handle, although his size and physical strength means he doesn’t need a flashy handle to be successful.

Smart is an excellent prospect, with very high upside, but he isn’t a slam dunk. He isn’t going to be able to bully NBA pgs the way he does college ones and on an NBA team, he is going to have to learn how to play more under control.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

While ur riggt Smart still has a ton of improvement to make in the skills department most notably tightening his handle and becoming a consistent shooter….with that said even in the NBA Smart will be a straight up bully the dude is built like none other. Hes built more like a hybrid pass rusher in the NFL then a combo guard in the NBA.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

While ur riggt Smart still has a ton of improvement to make in the skills department most notably tightening his handle and becoming a consistent shooter….with that said even in the NBA Smart will be a straight up bully the dude is built like none other. Hes built more like a hybrid pass rusher in the NFL then a combo guard in the NBA.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

I love Smart’s aggressiveness on the court, but he has to refine his game if he wants to be a pg at the NBA level. He is wired to be a scorer and has to improve his shot selection and decision making on the court to really excel as an NBA pg. He is a good passer, but he needs to learn to choose his spots better to really excel at the NBA level. He also should tighten up his handle, although his size and physical strength means he doesn’t need a flashy handle to be successful.

Smart is an excellent prospect, with very high upside, but he isn’t a slam dunk. He isn’t going to be able to bully NBA pgs the way he does college ones and on an NBA team, he is going to have to learn how to play more under control.

[NickWayne87Participant]

and would’ve been the best player in the draft why come back when no matter what he does he’s not gonna be considered the best prospect in the draft NO MATTER WHAT. He would’ve went number 2 this year and the only reason he wouldn’t have went 1 is because cleveland has one of the best pgs in the nba and a solid young 2 guard in the making. He would’ve went number 2 without a question. He’d have to have a insanely statistically brilliant and tournament success leading successful season just to have an OUTSIDE CHANCE to go number 2 in the next draft where he without a doubt would’ve went this year. He wont go number 1 no matter what he does, his crossover could cure cancer and he wouldn’t go 1. He could’ve honed his pg skills in the nba. He could continue his education while in the nba or after…..all the PERKS of college life being big man on campus he’d have everyday of his life. He be big man on campus every place in united states he went as the number 2 pick in the draft. it was the wrong decision ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT.

[tdigiParticipant]

3-5 is his current draft range in 14 so not much worse than 2. Plus if Orlando still drafted Oladipo then Smart probably slides to 4 unless Wash traded that pick. Worst case scenario is if Smart has a career ending injury while still in college.
Whoever gets smart next year is going to get an NBA ready point guard.

[tdigiParticipant]

3-5 is his current draft range in 14 so not much worse than 2. Plus if Orlando still drafted Oladipo then Smart probably slides to 4 unless Wash traded that pick. Worst case scenario is if Smart has a career ending injury while still in college.
Whoever gets smart next year is going to get an NBA ready point guard.

[NickWayne87Participant]

and would’ve been the best player in the draft why come back when no matter what he does he’s not gonna be considered the best prospect in the draft NO MATTER WHAT. He would’ve went number 2 this year and the only reason he wouldn’t have went 1 is because cleveland has one of the best pgs in the nba and a solid young 2 guard in the making. He would’ve went number 2 without a question. He’d have to have a insanely statistically brilliant and tournament success leading successful season just to have an OUTSIDE CHANCE to go number 2 in the next draft where he without a doubt would’ve went this year. He wont go number 1 no matter what he does, his crossover could cure cancer and he wouldn’t go 1. He could’ve honed his pg skills in the nba. He could continue his education while in the nba or after…..all the PERKS of college life being big man on campus he’d have everyday of his life. He be big man on campus every place in united states he went as the number 2 pick in the draft. it was the wrong decision ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT.

[moochieeParticipant]

What I don’t get, looking at all these projections for next year, is how Smart was ranked as maybe the 3rd or 4th best prospect in this ‘weak’ draft, but somehow he is still ranked right in the same range and is widely considered the best PG in next years class. Wasn’t everyone saying how bad a mistake he made by coming back? I’m just not understanding the translation being made by some of these scouts

[ItsRainingNegsParticipant]

A healthy Noel is the only player that would have challenged Smart as the best player. There are four players next year that are can’t miss: Wiggins, Parker, Randle, and Smart. I think Andrew Harrison will throw his hat in that ring after this season.

[ItsRainingNegsParticipant]

A healthy Noel is the only player that would have challenged Smart as the best player. There are four players next year that are can’t miss: Wiggins, Parker, Randle, and Smart. I think Andrew Harrison will throw his hat in that ring after this season.

[WinterSoldierParticipant]

It doesn’t matter at all, what someone is ranked a whole year before the draft.

[WinterSoldierParticipant]

It doesn’t matter at all, what someone is ranked a whole year before the draft.

[moochieeParticipant]

What I don’t get, looking at all these projections for next year, is how Smart was ranked as maybe the 3rd or 4th best prospect in this ‘weak’ draft, but somehow he is still ranked right in the same range and is widely considered the best PG in next years class. Wasn’t everyone saying how bad a mistake he made by coming back? I’m just not understanding the translation being made by some of these scouts

[strobox88Participant]

I think a lot of people are going to be surprised by how much better of a player Marcus Smart will be next season. He could be the upcoming season’s Trey Burke (POTY).

[strobox88Participant]

I think a lot of people are going to be surprised by how much better of a player Marcus Smart will be next season. He could be the upcoming season’s Trey Burke (POTY).

[TRC1991Participant]

Hes an absolute beast…im laughing at a lot of these nay-sayers up here

[TRC1991Participant]

Hes an absolute beast…im laughing at a lot of these nay-sayers up here

[Chitown Finest2Participant]

He definitely slimmed down from his freshman season. The way this draft went he look like he could’ve went #2 to Orlando. I would’ve said one but Kyrie wasn’t going for that. Lol

[Chitown Finest2Participant]

He definitely slimmed down from his freshman season. The way this draft went he look like he could’ve went #2 to Orlando. I would’ve said one but Kyrie wasn’t going for that. Lol

[lalailaParticipant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbToaVPE7Uw

watch this one too… it surprises me how high and with such an explosiveness this kid gets his huge 225pound body in the air

[lalailaParticipant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbToaVPE7Uw

watch this one too… it surprises me how high and with such an explosiveness this kid gets his huge 225pound body in the air

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Watch. He chose wrong. Staying is stupid when your considered that early.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Watch. He chose wrong. Staying is stupid when your considered that early.

[trueone313detroitParticipant]

Smart is a cross of Young billups/Westbrook/T Evans type of guard where he will use more strength to get to the hole over extreme quickness. (Westbrook and Reke are quick but with the lack of a J teams back off so they have to play powerball in the lane) He can absorb so much contact and still make a play. Plus his major calling card was defense, if tony allen who isnt the quickest can stay in front of most guards 1/2 why can smart. They have similar tools. Plus he is taller and more powerful built. I see smart a great combo guard and with teams doing so much small ball his transition is going to go smoother. More then half the teams in the league play two pg’s or 3 guard lineups anyway.

[trueone313detroitParticipant]

Smart is a cross of Young billups/Westbrook/T Evans type of guard where he will use more strength to get to the hole over extreme quickness. (Westbrook and Reke are quick but with the lack of a J teams back off so they have to play powerball in the lane) He can absorb so much contact and still make a play. Plus his major calling card was defense, if tony allen who isnt the quickest can stay in front of most guards 1/2 why can smart. They have similar tools. Plus he is taller and more powerful built. I see smart a great combo guard and with teams doing so much small ball his transition is going to go smoother. More then half the teams in the league play two pg’s or 3 guard lineups anyway.

[surveParticipant]

Here is a guy who’s mentality will carry him far. you will be able to get the most out of him because he is extremely confident with a high basketball IQ and superior work ethic. I like the Dumars comparison. He is a combo guard…not an undersized SG. he is a guy who can play both positions equally effective. he may not be an All-NBA performer but he is virtually bust proof barring serious or lingering injuries.

[surveParticipant]

Here is a guy who’s mentality will carry him far. you will be able to get the most out of him because he is extremely confident with a high basketball IQ and superior work ethic. I like the Dumars comparison. He is a combo guard…not an undersized SG. he is a guy who can play both positions equally effective. he may not be an All-NBA performer but he is virtually bust proof barring serious or lingering injuries.

[SiggyParticipant]

I think he’ll be able to defend the position fine. I’d be more worried about him on the other end. Can he get the offense into its sets quickly? Does he have break down ability? Is he skilled enough offensively?
IMO his handle is not that great and his shooting %s from last yr spoke for themselves. His decision making was also very questionable, just look at his A/T and TO rates.

Keep in mind that he has exactly 1 yr of experience running the full time point and that was last yr. In HS he was more of a utility player, playing wherever his team needed him I think he has a steep learning curve still ahead of him and I do agree that his game will start to get picked apart, especially if he doesn’t show much improvement in his skill game and decision making.

[SiggyParticipant]

I think he’ll be able to defend the position fine. I’d be more worried about him on the other end. Can he get the offense into its sets quickly? Does he have break down ability? Is he skilled enough offensively?
IMO his handle is not that great and his shooting %s from last yr spoke for themselves. His decision making was also very questionable, just look at his A/T and TO rates.

Keep in mind that he has exactly 1 yr of experience running the full time point and that was last yr. In HS he was more of a utility player, playing wherever his team needed him I think he has a steep learning curve still ahead of him and I do agree that his game will start to get picked apart, especially if he doesn’t show much improvement in his skill game and decision making.

[JNixonParticipant]

Marcus Smart is a dog man. He will only get better as he polishes his overall game, develops a more consistent shot and makes better decisions, which should come as the game slows down for him. I do tend to think he will always be a bit TO prone though, he plays too aggressive not to.

[JNixonParticipant]

Marcus Smart is a dog man. He will only get better as he polishes his overall game, develops a more consistent shot and makes better decisions, which should come as the game slows down for him. I do tend to think he will always be a bit TO prone though, he plays too aggressive not to.

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