[TRC1991Participant]

As you all probably know, the measurement chart is available. Here are my winners and losers so far.

 

Winners

F/C- Nikola Vucevic. Tallest player at the combine measured in at 6’10.25” barefoot and 6’11.75” with shoes on. At essentially 7’0” 260 lbs., this soft-touch big man also scored around 6% on the body fat which is insane, along with a 7’4.5” wingspan. His stock was helped big time.

PG- Isaiah Thomas– He was the shortest player at the combine, but dont get me wrong, he measured ginormous compared to what I thought he was going to measure. Having watched a ton of husky games these past few years, I had convinced myself he was going to measure 5’6.5” barefoot and 5’8” with shoes but being 5’10.25” with shoes on and a stacked 186 lbs. with 6.7% body fat really helps his case.

SF- Kawhi Leonard– Pretty ridiculous just how well he measured. With shoes on, hes 6’7”, he weighed an impressive 227 lbs. with just 5% bodyfat. Tied with Greg Smith for the longest hands at the combine and 2nd to Greg Smith with hand width (keep in mind he’s 2 inches shorter than Smith). Leonard also had a retarded wingspan of 7’3” which is 9” longer than his height without shoes (6’6”)

SG- Klay Thompson– Measured noth of 6’7” with shoes on helps his stock a lot.

PF- Michael Dunigan– Super impressive being 6’10” 237, 7’3.25” wingspan, big hands, not high on body fat. Climbed into the mid 2nd round with that performance.

PG- Iman Shumpert– Wow. 6’6” 221 lb. point guard. Impressive nba body with a 6’9.5” wingspan and big hands. Stock is boosted.

PG- Charles Jenkins- His height turns out to be legit. North of 6’3” with shoes on, a 216 lb. build with just 4.3% body fat. Build like an NFL safety, Jenkins also had the same hand width of 6’11” jeremy tyler

C- Jeremy Tyler- His measurements defined his position. 6’11” 262 with a 7’5” wingspan. He had a little bit high on the body fat scale and his hands are small but you cant teach size and length like that.

PF- Greg Smith– 6’9” 252 pounder had the widest hands at the combine..12” which is staggering if you look at your hand and picture it as the width of a ruler. He had only 7% body fat and his wingspan was a swell 7’2.5”

Losers

PG- Kyrie Irving- He didn’t participate in the drills and his 191 lb. frame wasn’t in the best shape as he registered 10% body fat. His wingspan was also rather pathetic. His height was nice but his standing reach was a joke and his hands arent big either.

PF- Markieff Morris– He measured under 6’8” barefoot which isnt impressive. Had over 10% body fat, and didnt even have a 7’0” wingspan…Also, this shocked me. His hand width was tied with Alec Burks for the lowest at the entire draft combine. His brother didnt measure very well either.

PF- Jamie Skeen– Measured only 6’6.5” barefoot didnt help his cause and his hands are really small. His wingspan was decent but freakishly impressive and his body fat % was up there by the 10 mark.

PF- Trey Thompkins– Didnt even weigh in at 240 lbs and still had an abnormally high body fat % (15.5-highest at the combine). He measured good on heigh, hand size, and wingspan but his body fat raises a red flag.

F/C- Jordan Williams– Turns out he probably will have to play the 4 at the next level seeing as he only measured 6’7.75” barefoot. Was hoping to see him measure closer to 6’8.5” barefoot but it is what it is. His body fat was north of 12% also

Jury still out

PG- Kemba Walker- It was nice to see him measure 6’1” with shoes which will hopefully quiet a lot of the haters, and his 184 lb. frame isnt too frail but his wingspan, hand length, and standing reach were all indications that he isn’t very long.

SF- Chandler Parsons. 6’10” 221 lbs. helped his cause a lot but the dudes wingspan is shorter than his height w/shoes on. Serious t-rex arms.

SF- Jordan Hamilton– Could get away with listing himself at 6’8” 230 judging by  his measurements but his wingspan was weak and his body fat hovered around 10.

I’m excited to see how high these guys all jump and see how many reps on the bench press they all put up.

 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

1 source has it Isaiah Thomas posted a 38 inch vert

[TRC1991Participant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjXaD0lOP0

 

1:40 for a sick dunk by amaning

4:40 for a sick dunk by Isaiah

[PrecociousNeophyteParticipant]

 nice analyzation… I was surprised that the Morris twins measured that bad and I like when Chad Ford said that Trey Thompkins had to lay off the Big Mac’s… Greg Smith hand width is also very amazing just held my hand up to a ruler and could not believe it.

[B FreeParticipant]

Parsons’s height without shoes is 6’8.75 wingspan is 6’9.5

Parsons was a win. I also liked Dunigan because he left college slow and overweight and now he looked long and lean.

[tli232]

First of all, wtf is "analyzation"? That was pretty funny.

Do other people feel the same way about the importance of hand  length/width? I mean, I feel like it only matters significantly for Big Guys because a third their paychecks revolves around the ability to catch and dunk. I see how big hands help them there. 

However, with respect to the guards, I really don’t see hand size as important as it is for big guys. I mean if a guy can handle the ball, he can handle the ball. This is done through watching game tape, not looking at the guy’s hands. 

Anyone else feel similarly?

[i’m jus so offendedParticipant]

 yo me too dude, that is alien like…does Greg Smith have to choke a biatch??!!!!

[Lotto StudParticipant]

"Do other people feel the same way about the importance of hand length/width?"

It’s really not a factor for DRose & he cannot palm the ball.

[ghettosermonParticipant]

Dang Greg Smith is a specimen. If basketball doesn’t work out for him with his height, bulk, and hand size he should try out for an NFL team, he is the prototype build to be a TE conversion project.

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

 Big hands help a guard with one-handed passing, but that is about it and you don’t have to do fancy passes to be successful. Some people say that smaller hands are helpful for shooting accuracy. 

I haven’t really seen much evidence that super big hands are all that helpful. But long arms are clearly helpful. Most people are just +1" over their height, but for NBA draft guys, that is T-Rex time. And these guys who are +7" is crazy. But then so are their crazy hops or being seven feet tall, it is all crazy stuff. 

[Blazetrees23Participant]

4th best player in this draft

 

Smoke trees

[OhCanada-Participant]

How about Benson being under 220 pounds.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 The vertical leap is important, I understand that, but the 185 bench press is irrelevant, I bet Isaiah Thomas puts it up at least 20+ times, does that mean he should be 1st round..? Nope

[JNixonParticipant]

PF- Greg Smith– 6’9” 252 pounder had the widest hands at the combine..12” which is staggering if you look at your hand and picture it as the width of a ruler. He had only 7% body fat and his wingspan was a swell 7’2.5”

His production at Fresno State against the who’s-who of average bigs left something to be desired, but he’s a physical gift. His hands are enormous.You can see during drills how easily he palms the ball. He’ll have no problems catching post entry passes outside of his area at least.

[lukestine13Participant]

well i guess we know why he’s got swagger don’t we with hands that big. you know what that means…….. if basketball don’t work out he could always get a job in the film industry.

[canesboy6Participant]

Yo, I wont say that last comment was Homo. Ill just say that Charles Barkley wouldn’t mind it being in his locker room.

[AKOOParticipant]

Are very important, unless you are as strong as a bull or as tall as Shawn Bradley, Bol, or Ming you will not be getting rebounds just standing there. So, these tall guys that are glued to the floor will not look so good when those verticals, max vert reach and standing reaches come out.

[lukestine13Participant]

 yeah if you did that you’d have grant hill show up make a buzzer like noise and say that aint cool to use slurs  to describe stuff in that way.  loved the charles barkley reference though.

[ghettosermonParticipant]

The bench press is not entirely useless. While I wouldn’t put too much stock in it I do believe an either high or low number does matter. Sure bench is not the overall barometer of strength but it does show who is a hard worker and has been in the weight room. 185 pound bench also shows muscle stamina and mental stamina more than pure max strength. If I see a big man who can’t bench 185 at least 5 times that’s worrisome. Those who have strong bench numbers generally have strong core’s and a workers in the gym. A strong bench also can often have a direct correlation with strength in post defense.Yes you can make the argument of Kevin Durant not being able to bench 185, but how many people have his skill set. If I’m looking at a late 2^nd prospect who can’t bench 185 I probably look at someone else if the two are comparable skills wise. The bench test and many of these other tests are not about functionality of basketball, they are just as much about preparedness. All of these players know they will be tested on it so you want to see who has been working on their bench. It’s a definite cause of concern if someone doesn’t train for every aspect of the biggest job interview of their life. Of course bench is more important for some than others, especially bigs, but on a case by case basis I wouldn’t rule out bench as completely useless.

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