The Los Angeles Lakers have fired Mike Brown after a 1-4 start.
Lol was bound to happen just thought he'd get a couple more games.
Now, lets wait for the replacement to roll in. Guessing Kobe is the interim, right?
It wasn't Mike Brown's offense. He can't coach offense. It was Eddie Jordan's offense and Kobe was the one who suggested using the Princeton, which BTW is actually very similar to the triangle. Would people be bagging on the triangle as well if they were using that instead?
Anyways, it's a good move. Mike Brown's cheerleading just wasn't good enough.
The pinch post action. Pinch post action turning into modified pick n roll off of the hand off. The double post action. The inverted offense, with the bigs being key decision makers up top, with cutters running off both sides of the bigs. The point not being the primary ball-handler or distributor. They are both offenses predicated on multiple touches (P-Jax would often require a certain number of passes per possession). Back cuts based on how the strong side is being defended. I can go on.
Furthermore, Eddie Jordan's offense is not a pure Princeton offense. It is a "Princeton Principles" offense. It is a hybrid offense with Princeton principles built into it. If you watched the Wiz when he was coaching them, you would've never thought that they were running a pure Princeton offense, because the offense also involved a ton of iso. No team in the NBA runs a pure Princeton offense because the dribble drive and breaking down the defense in that fashion is such an important part of the NBA game. Not even Adelman runs a pure Princeton offense. In fact he runs, a hybrid of Princeton and Triangle.
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Eddie Jordan got fired at wizards and 76ers right? then why the hell is he running the Lakers Offense,
one more thing, when running a Princeton offense does it need to have a legitimate center? i mean could you just run the game with 5 skilled Small forwards?, because in the wiki it says that "strategy which emphasizes constant motion, passing, back-door cuts, picks on and off the ball" would be great if it was run in Denver though
um, not really.. the triangle does work a lot on the wings, but it also works with bigs in the low post.. placement of the pf/c are basically the exact opposite of the princeton offense, where the forwards work out on the high block allowing more back cuts..
No one thought he'd make it through his a 4 year deal but damn! They're a week and half into the season. Who do they bring in now??
really...? if true it's sooner than expected.
im happy. I just never saw the defensive improvment that he was supposed to bring to override his lack of offensive knowledge. If they were busting ass on d last season and this early portion of this season, then ill roll with some average O. But the team never got it going at either end. Now the question is who is next.
Their problem on defense is a lack of team speed, which, in a speed league is a big disadvantage.
could phil jackson be the next coach ?... or they go with jerry sloan. Either one of them would be a great choice and a real upgrade over mike brown.
I'm still wondering if Ettore Messina could have been the choice ...
It's crazy how often the guy in charge says a coach is safe and its nearly always the kiss of death. Jim Buss just yesterday said Mike Brown was safe and maybe the offense was the problem...today he gets fired.
I thought it needed to happen, but never thought it would happen so soon. Awesome.
Stan Van Gundy
Now that would be hilarious.
Somehow, I think Stan Van feels like Nate Silver did on Tuesday night.
Not Surprising at all...Earlier this week,I Predicted it would be within 10 games....Lakers arent the type of franchise that likes to be ridiculed....And with that lineup,there was no excuse!!!!
Their Defense was much WORSE than their offense!!!!
I'd say this is panicking if I have ever seen it.
If only Ettore Messina would have stuck around one more season...I think he figured this would have happened last season.
that princeton offense really isnt the problem with this team...it can be really effective for them...their problem was just horrible defense and a very poor bench...also some players just didnt seem to be that motivated when they were playing...im almost 100% sure the lakers are talking to phil right now and we will see him as the coach in no later than a week.
oh yeah, itd be funny if howard was the one who got him fired too...
DEATH STARES WORKS EVERYTIME!!!
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Lakers are dumping Princeton offense, sources tell Y! Sports. "This (firing) was about the offense, more than anything else," source says.
If that's the case, then they should fire Eddie Jordan as well. That was his offense.
Everyone talks about this team as a juggernaut, but remember Nash has really only played one game. He got hurt early in the second game and while he took the court again he was not even 70%. And Dwight is still getting into game shape. Kobe has been fantastic and seems to be ready to reduce his role. He is averaging 17 FGA per game this year (and that includes his massive 40 point game) instead of the 23 per game he averaged last year. On lower shooting he is hitting a ridiculous percentage. It is kind of scary considering the role Kobe is on that they are losing games.
New coach needs to survive until Nash gets back. Spread the starters around. Two out of Howard, Gasol and Kobe should be on the court at ALL times. If that means Gasol sits after five minutes and then comes back later and finishes out the first half with a lot of the bench players, that is fine. But this bench can't be trusted by themselves at all. Once Nash is back, you can go with two out of the big four at ALL times. That should be enough.
And one of the worst defensive, so the problem as stated is defense and bench depth-quality.
It would have been more reasonable to dump Brown for his lack of defense and leadership.
Mike Brown wasn't the right guy for the job anyway. I don't know what Jim Buss was thinking coming in and making that decision... Way to waste his daddy's money. Brian Shaw should've been the guy to replace Phil Jackson.
However, there's no doubt the Lakers need a BIG time coach. Jerry Sloan is out there, but is he a LA guy? I don't know. I'm sure Phil Jackson will come out of retirement if that money is right (however how much difference is there between the triangle and the Princeton offense though?).
If Phil Jackson turns them down..Look for them to possibly hire Mike Dunleavy!!!!
itd be funny if the lakers trolled dwight by hiring stan van gundy...could you imagine LOL
If they want Howard to extend they don't think its funny. But I know you're kidding.
Its a good move at the right time, I was saying the other day, if they were going to get rid of Brown, they needed to do it right now so they can start looking towards trade deadline.
Brown shouldve never gotten the job anyway...not over Shaw...or Adelman for that matter. Even still, he is a scapegoat...I think their problems are bigger than Brown. I thought the acquisitions of Howard and Nash were overrated. People thinking by adding them they automatically are entitled to be in the top 3 teams out West.
They've got work to do to get the offense like they want...but they have some serious defensive issues that even if they win games in the regular, postseason will be their ending. They lack team speed. There's no Matt Barnes, a year later they are still missing the versatility that Odom brought off the bench, and Metta is just not the defender he once was.
As stated above....they need a better bench. Basically they need new personnel to go along with their stars....AND a big time coach.
I also kind of think people need to be patient... Dwight Howard isn't the same player right now. Once he's 100%, I think that defense is A LOT better even with the lack of speed on the perimeter. I mean, it's not like Orlando was that fast on the perimeter.
But Howard isn't right... He's two or three steps slow. He's gotten dunked on more this season than in his entire NBA career. He's gotten his shots blocked by players he'd have dunked in the rim with the ball last season. I don't even think he's 70% of the athlete he normally is.
This seems like weird timing. I mean, if it only took a 1-4 start to get him fired, you would think that they probably should have just gone ahead and done it in the offseason. Otherwise, itmight have been prudent to at least wait a month or so
How about Mike D'Antonie. He could whip up an offense for this team, and he already knows how to utilize Nash. The defesne wouldn't be as bad as Pheonix was in his days, I would assume since they have two solid defenders in Howard and Peace.
After the awful pre-season and poor start the odds on Mike Brown going steadily grew and now he has got the chop. A lot will depend on how the Lakers want to play it as they either go for a big name shorter term veteran Coach or maybe a younger long term guy.
Big name guys will want money and perhaps their own coaching staff, the Lakers are rich but having to hire new staff and pay off the others especially Mike Brown would be costly combined with the luxury tax hits they will take. Plus they need the right man to convince D12 to extend and someone Kobe will work with. The real fun could start if Kobe and D12 prefered different guys.
Phil Jackson is an obvious choice to return and maybe a deal for this season and next could tempt him. Mike D'Antoni as mentioned above would be logical with Steve Nash but he failed at the Knicks and never got Phoenix to an NBA final. Could Brian Shaw maybe be prised back from the Pacers if NBA rules allow, he knows the team, the system, Kobe respects him and he would not be the most expensive guy to hire.
Mentioned dunleavy.. but u still a bum
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