****I know there is already a similar thread to do this, but I wanted to focus it more on that McGary really should declare.****
I'm sold. If everyone remembers this was the McGary that shot up in the summer two years ago and went all the way to being a Top 3 recruit. His stock dropped in his senior year, but now he is finally showing the potential everyone saw on display in his last AAU season.
Athletic, all out hustle, has a great touch and feel for the game. I love players like him because you know he is just a real basketball player. What I mean by this is when I look at a guy like Mason Plumlee I don't see a basketball player I see just an athlete. When I watch McGary I see a basketball player.
IMO I'd take him ahead of Len and Plumlee based on the team. Some people want him to stay another year but I think that is a very bad choice for him.
1) Burke is leaving and though I think McGary can be successful without him, I just don't want what happened to McAdoo happen to McGary next year. If you guys remember, McAdoo had a GREAT tournament and was projected lottery. But with the departure of Kendall Marshall he has fallen to a late first round pick in a relatively weak draft.
2) His stock is as high as it is going to get and with the talent coming into CBB next year that could only hurt his draft position.
3) HE'S ALMOST 21!!! By the time of the draft he will be 21 years old. Think about it. He is only 3 months younger than Kyrie Irving who is just now completing his 2nd year in the league.
Mitch McGary is a great rebounder, especially offensive. No one can argue that. However, besides hustling and rebounding, he hasn't proven to be any type of scorer or defender capable of being a good NBA player. Stay another year, get a post game and maybe learn to hit a free throw. He has a decent little jumper but not enough for a defense to fear it. At best he's a Varejao type with his screens but lacks any kind of reliable offense. Let Burke leave, become a go-to player for Michigan and see what he does.
Ok McGarys offense isn't that bad,people underrate his positioning on when to get the ball when his defender goes to help. He knows how to get open without the ball,kinda like how Ray Allen or Rip Hamilton does on the perimeter , and I guess you could say Amare Stoudemire down low.
McGary also first started getting real playing time and first inserted to the starting lineup once the tournament started and since then he has scoried double digits and shot over 50% percent in every tourney game, including a 25 point game going up against Jeff Withey and Kansases defense.Besides how much players even have a post game in the NBA now a days?Espically athletic hustlers,and I doubt he will develop one in one year of college .Whatever team McGray goes to I bet he will get the ball too,because he will be on the floor for hustle and get his touches because he can pass.So McGary if your out there declare now or you will regret it
No team wants to take a guy in the lottery with a description of "isn't that bad" for a major part of the game. He shows signs of being able to get a post game, yes, which is why he should wait and develop
Is in this draft I was disagree...Espically when your 6'10 ,250 strong,athletic,hustles and gets rebounds.Now we have all seen how faried turned out to be and would no doubt go to top 5 in a redo draft.Now I'm not saying they are the same player but McGray has some of the same qualities.
I keep thinking David Lee, he is an athletic (still carrying a bit of weight, that I am sure he will lose once NBA trainer gets hold of him) his seems to have a nice shooting touch and has an all-around game with ability to pass. Also they are both lefty's.
IF McGary can develop a post game, or a better midrange jumper, then sure he's like David Lee. McGary gets most of his points off of put backs or simple one dribble dunks. He has shown no NBA post game and has a short jumper that's respectable but has to do more than run and rebound to put points on the board at the next level. David Lee was a 4 year college player with better numbers that still was only drafted 30th. McGary seems to have a little more athleticism than Lee at this point but even if he wants to get on David Lee's level, he has a whole lot of improving to do. So no, he should not declare
I agree with everything you just said EXCEPT the athleticism part. David Lee was and is definitely a notch above McGary in that department, though McGary has above average athleticism for his height... either way good points +1
1) I got negged for saying McAdoo and Barnes were not future all-stars because their stats were inflated with an uptempo offense and Kendall Marshall. McGary doesn't get alot of fast break points compared to McAdoo and Barnes - he earns his points by hard work and does the dirty work.
2) I think he will be a late lotto - mid first rounder this year and his stock will prob be around the same next year (maybe a few spots higher)
3) I think he is a bit underrated offensively because Michigan were so stacked. I have seen some glimpses of a jump shot and post up game. I am not saying he is ever going to develop into a 20ppg all-star but Reggie Evans and Nick Collison have made a living out of rebounding and doing all the dirty work. I think he is better skilled offensively than those two but may never put up David Lee like stats.
The guy is a monster on the offensive glass and is a bull at setting screens - stats aside, this is a guy you would want your team....
Honestly I think he should declare too ,If he doesn't do gr8 next year his stock will fall ,that is the problem with staying ,you need to show a lot of improvement next season because if not your stock will drop,also I agree that Burke leaving isn't gonna help him
Lastly he is older than Tobias Harris who played 2 NBA seasons already ,just 1 month younger than Victor Oladipo who is Junior
Honestly he has a lot to lose by not declaring ,
And the Sixers should take him with their pick. Reminds me of Chris Humphries
If he wants to get paid, he should definitely declare. This becomes even more of a no brainer if Michigan wins the championship and McGrady plays well. His shot seems broke and I don't think another year in college is going to give him time to learn to shoot. He's decent size and has decent speed. And if the last thing the scouts see you do is play Center/PG, then they will get all excited and he will get drafted in the late lottery. If he comes back he doesn't even know for sure if he will be a full time starter next year.
He's not ready for the NBA.
After watching him and zeller go against the zone, mcgary handled it 100x better. What does this say about his draft prospects compared to zeller?
The zone vs. Indiana was based around shutting down Cody Zeller. The zone vs Michigan was based around shutting down Trey Burke.
He may have been picked over Anthony Davis and wouldn't have fallen past 2 in that draft or even next years Wiggins/Parker draft. Even though the college game could use him next year, I feel like he's better off declaring. He won't last past the late lottery and could take whatever destination WCS was going to take. Energy bigs are trending now and why wait especially if you risk injuring yourself more than others because of your style of play.
Something I thought would never be said,
Does Cody Zeller project as a better prospect than Mitch McGary?
He's 37-53 at 69% in the tourney. He has energy, move fluidly, a nice passer and ball handler for a big, plus seems confident from 15. He also has that Gronk appeal of a fun loving guy who probably is a good teammate seeing as though he patiently sat the bench most the season even as UM bigs were stinking up the joint.
I had no idea he was almost 21. He should definitely enter. I have to give props to rudeboy for being the guy who said all season long to watch out for McGary as a darkhorse #1 pick and while that probably won't happen I could possibly see a GM taking him in the top 5 now.
i would have to agree, i would declare this year especially because next years draft looks to be 1 for the ages. the only concern IMO is that come draft night maybe he will be 1 of those guys who just sits in the green room all night and gets drafted early 2nd round. Ive seen it happen. expectations leading up to the draft seem to fluctuate and strange things happen on draft night. However i feel like he definitely should just enter June's draft. Next years draft is too loaded and he really has nothing to lose
He'll declare, with Burke and like GRIII (likely) leaving Michigan will suck next year. You would have to be an idiot not too.
They obviously won't be as good as they are this yr, but they won't suck next yr. Not with their incoming class, the holdovers and that coaching stuff. Beilein won a share of the B1G regular season last yr with much less talent.
This incoming class that they have isn't quite as good as last yr's, but it's only a notch below, just being outside of the top 10 nationally. Just look at what the coaching staff has been able to do for the Michigan freshmen this yr. To give you an idea, both Derrick Walton and Nik Irvin were more highly rated than both Burke and Hardaway as recruits. They know how to pick em and they how to improve them.
I think he should declare and I didn't even know he was that old. I don't know if he'll ever be on David Lee's level, but I would still draft him in the top 15 or so. It's gonna be awhile before he develops a solid offensive game, but his motor, rebounding, and feel for the game (especially passing) make me think that he could definitely contribute to a team right away as a big off the bench.
I think it is a no brainer for him to declare. Hell, if they win tonight, he very well could be MOP. Some say be the man without Trey Burke and Hardaway there. No!! Chances are he will be targeted more and his stock will fall. Would another year in college help his game? Yes but so will NBa practices. His stock will never be higher in my opinion. Financially, he needs to enter. Almost a lottery lock in my opinion.