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  • #37484
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    OhCanada-
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    Anybody starting to get into the mock drafts now that its March Madness. Heres some key points in my Mock Draft.

    -I would not take 25 players before Draymond Green and Jae Crowder. Both of these players are leading teams to tournament victories with dominant performances in a very tough tournament. The fact that they are tweeners will likely keep both players out of the lotto, but I see no reason why these two players dont get selected within the 15-25 range.

    Green is currently 17th, Crowder is 22nd.

    -Perry Jones does not deserve to be in the Top 15. No matter what obstacles he has had put in front of him, and no matter how athletic and fluid he is the fact is he is not performing. He has 9-points n two tournament games and is expected to lead his Baylor team. The inconsistancy is a killer. I dont understand why CJ Lesle doesnt get half the hype Jones gets. He s just as long, aathletic and talented and performs much more.

    Perry Jones and CJ Leslie are not currently in my mock draft.

     

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  • #648647
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    Wahoo757
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    Why so you have the Kings drafting Jeremy Lamb if they already have Tyreke Evans and Marcus Thornton at the 2. That doesn’t make any sense to me.

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  • #648657
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    river09
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     CJ Leslie might have all the similar physical tools of Perry Jones but he doesn’t have as developed of a perimeter game. He reminds me of Hakim Warrick…

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  • #648665
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    TomShoe
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    A little analysis for you guys:

    The Good: There are few 6-foot-11 players with his combination of athleticism and skill. He can play like a guard and is an excellent ball handler for a big man. He can shoot the rock and has some nice moves around the basket. He can also get after the boards when he wants to.

    The Bad: He doesn’t like to mix it up in the paint, and his game can lack toughness and passion at times. He’s also content to shoot jump shots when he should be dominating the paint. Needs to get a lot stronger.

    The Upside: Like Drummond, he’s the type of player who could be a superstar or get you fired if you’re an NBA GM. The last week, in the Big 12 tournament, Jones has really started to play up to his potential. When he does that it’s hard not to fall and fall hard. A strong NCAA tournament run for Jones and Baylor could move him back into the top five. Scouts would love to see him matched up against Anthony Davis in the Elite Eight.

    He’s got a high ceiling, but a lack of motor also means he has tremendous bust potential. High risk-reward pick.

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  • #648680
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    OhCanada-
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    zachb-I actually did my draft based on another websites order which was wrong as well thanks for pointing that out. Either way I think your just nitpicking. Thornton hasnt proved to help his team win as Sacramentos record has not changed much with his addition and increased attempts in shots. He had a very good game in a win against Boston in Sacramentos last game, although the 4 games before that he averaged about 12-ppg. 

    If drafting Lamb is veiwed as a bad move when Sacramento already plays alot with 3-gaurds on the court then that would mean drafting any gaurd would be a bad idea. That would leave Jarred Sullinger, Terrence Jones, Tyler Zeller, Perry Jones, Meyers Leonard, Moe Harkless, Arnett Moultrie, and John Henson as far as lottery talent goes. I would narrow that down too Jared Sullinger, Arnett Moultrie, and Terrence Jones.

    Sullinger and Cousins just wouldnt work, Moultrie and Cousins are not the best defesive presences to defend the rim, and Terrence Jones would be a very good fit for Sacramento but can be acquired by trading down.

    Perry Jones is not even an option "right now" for a lottery selection in my mind which would make him pull out of the draft. His potential will always be there although scoring 9-points in your teams two tournament games is unacceptable. Brady Heslip is hot as hell and hitting all his shots, and Baylor has tons of offensive depth but at some point you need to mature and come out of your shell. The skill, athletisism, length, and size is no good if you have no confidence, or poise to use it.

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  • #648685
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    PrecociousNeophyte
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     I’m pretty sure Perry Jones III is going to leave this year because in that article ESPN wrote about him he and his mom pretty much hinted that he was going to leave this year. So, I think you should put him in your mock. 

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  • #648701
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    Bmore_DC
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    @OhCanada…

    i see what your saying, but dont make the common mistake of falling in love with good college players…time and time again we see guys dominate college (jimmer, adam morrison) and fall face first in the NBA…its a totally different game…i like Crowder and Draymond Green but what are their positions at the next level? Crowder seems like an under-sized 3 who cant shoot…and Green is an under-sized 4 who will probably lack the quickness and athletic ability to stick guys like Josh Smith and Amare…

    obviously Green and Crowder have had better seasons than PJ3, but you gotta look at his ceiling IF he reaches his potential…a 6’11 guy with ballhandling, a decent jump shot, and incredible athletic abilities…

    he has the tools to be a super-star, MAYBE…Crowder and Green have the potential to be nice role players…

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  • #648714
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    OhCanada-
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    I highly doubt Perry Jones will ever be a superstar.

    Draymond Green and Jae Crowder are big time tweeners this is true. They can still play very effective roles in the NBA. Jones is also a tweener although his role is never established within his teams identity and he dissappears in big games. A least Green and Crowder found a position in college Jones hasnt even done that.

    Draymond Green isnt some chump like people say. He has a great skillset and is one of the best leaders in College Ball. He is only 21 so he still has plenty of development in front of him, a senior so he has plenty of experience, and maybe the most versatile player in this years tournament. Draymond has a good penetrating abillity with enough skill and athletisism to be able to finish and enough vision to make a smart pass and gather an assist. He can shoot, has great dribbles for his size and build which people who dont watch the games dont know, and is a help defensive menace and trouble in the passing lanes.

    Perry Jones could be a guy who averages 5-ppg in his career NBA or he could be a superstar although he is much more likely to average 5-ppg realisticly. Im not hating at all Im a big fan of Perry Jones abstract talent and build, I really would like to see a 6’11 Tracy Mcgrady. I just dont see it hppening.

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  • #648720
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    Bmore_DC
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    im not saying either guy is a chump…but there is a reason why he is in the 2nd round of NbaDraft.net’s mock draft…and crowders not even on it, if im not mistaken… 

    the problem with PJ3 is hes too unselfish, and Baylor is stacked so he really doesnt have the chance to stand out…i guarantee he averages more than 5 ppg tho lol

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  • #648780
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    I like Crowder and agree with you about Perry Jones.  Ive been getting negs for the past 12 months saying he is not going to be very good (even when everyone had him at 1 or 2 last season) Stupid T-Mac comparisons…

    Jones doesn’t deserve to go in the top 10.  I can’t beleive there are guys (kids?) on this forum who still defend Jones and say he will go top 5 or top 10.  Oh wait those same kids still think Drummond will be a superstar and should go 2nd…

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  • #648813
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    OhCanada-
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    By no means am I bashing Perry Jones. He does have extrordinary unique skills and ahletisism for his build and has shown flashes of brilliance when displaying his potential skillset, but it just is not there at this point. Maybe when a team drafts him his rookie salary could help his mother get immidiate treatment which could help him focus on what he has to do to become successful. Although at this point his approach to each game, his assertiveness, agressiveness and leadership all raise concerns as far as that superstar level goes. If people expect him to be a superstar you could end up thinking he is a for sure bust, although he is of extreme value late in the first round for a playoff team with lots of experienced players and a role desired for perry Jones to fit in.

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  • #648814
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    Michael.S.
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    You’d have to be nuts to not have Jones in your top 5 nevermind 15. When he is the best player from this draft in 3 years you guys are going to be looking foolish, just like everyone was in full denial mode when I was hyping Paul George and everyone was bashing him for "underachieving" and he looks well on his way to being an all-star.

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